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Daily Lesson (Morning) February 13, 2025.
Part 2: Preparation to “Connecting to Lishma” convention - Selected Excerpts from the sources. #16
Reader: Hello, we are going to read selected excerpts from our sources as a preparation for the congress, “Connecting to Lishma”. We are in item number 16. Selected excerpts as a preparation to the congress Connecting to Lishma, number 16, from the Zohar.
16. Zohar for All, Toldot [Generations], "He called – I Do Not Know the Day of My Death", Item 125 - Twice.
Reading: (00:27) One should engage in the Torah for the name of the Creator. Divinity is called “Name” because anyone who engages in the Torah and does not exert for her name is better off not being created. […]
He tells us the meaning of Torah Lishma [for her name], which is highways in their hearts: to aim one’s heart so his engagement in the Torah will draw abundance of knowledge for him and for the whole world. Thus, the name of the Creator will grow in the world, as it is written, “And the earth shall be filled of the knowledge of the Lord.” Then the words, “And the Lord shall be king over all the earth”
Reader: Again number 16 from the Zohar.
Reading: (01:40) 16. Zohar for All, Toldot [Generations], "He called – I Do Not Know the Day of My Death", Item 125 - Twice.
M. Laitman: Questions?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (03:00) What does it mean to draw the abundance while engaging in the Torah for Him and for the whole world? That's what he writes in the Zohar.
M. Laitman: That by studying Torah, he wants to attract the upper light. That this light will fill up all of reality.
Student: Why does he say abundance of knowledge? What is in that light called knowledge?
M. Laitman: That it fills up the vessels which are related to what we call that knowledge.
Student: And the world can receive it because a person does it. How could the world be filled with it?
M. Laitman: The world receives as the man prepares.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:17) How can we also draw this light to be accepted as knowledge of the vessel of reason and also to call it Lishma? For her sake.
M. Laitman: It's a question.
Student: When a person draws these lights to Lishma, these lights will also be accepted in the vessels that he's drawing it for?
M. Laitman: You want to say that there has to be a vessel in Lishma and then reception of lights? In other vessels?
Student: Yes, only the work is Lishma, or also the reception of the lights are Lishma?
M. Laitman: The reception of the lights as well.
Student: Here he says that the earth will be filled with knowledge of the Lord.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Knowledge of the Lord, that's Lishma? What is he describing here?
M. Laitman: I think that is Lishma. And you think that it's basically redundant?
Student: Not redundant, but it's a question whether when he writes the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord, is that describing a state that these lights are accepted? Lishma?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And what does it mean to receive lights for Lishma? To work, to engage in the Torah, I understand. But to accept it in Lishma, what is that?
M. Laitman: I think it's the same thing.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (06:24) He starts by saying that one should aim his heart. Then he talks about knowledge or reason. When we aim our hearts, we have to include the whole world so it won't be personal. That's what he says later on. Meaning, heart is faith and knowledge is reason?
M. Laitman: I think so.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:01) A person can have everything in his life, but it's enough that his heart even once feels a pull towards the Creator. From that moment, it becomes the most precious thing. How do we, through the connections between us, actually touch the heart of all these people that they'll have this inner drawing from within?
M. Laitman: That can happen because we have one root, one unique and unified for all of us.
Student: Everyone here has the ability.
M. Laitman: All created beings have a single root.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:03) He's relating to Lishma as for the sake of the Creator. His name is for the Creator, but for Her, for the Shechina, meaning that with many people we can get more of His greatness?
M. Laitman: I don't understand you.
Student: What does it mean for the sake of the Shechina? How will that help us reach for His sake?
M. Laitman: Because the Shechina is the same force that streams the influence of the Creator to everyone, to each and every one.
Student: And these tracks in their hearts, that's when each one works, and the incorporation between us.
M. Laitman: Probably so. Probably. Okay.
Reader: Item 17.
17. RABASH, Article No. 39, "Hear Our Voice" - Twice.
Reading: (09:16) People who learn Lo Lishma so that it will lead them to Lishma, and does not let them engage even in Lo Lishma, since the body is afraid “lest the man will achieve Lishma.”
Reader: Again.
Reading: (09:44) 17. RABASH, Article No. 39, "Hear Our Voice"
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (10:14) Exactly about that I wanted to ask, when a person does the inner work and some exertion, the body tosses them, sometimes he doesn't even pay attention, he's just tossed out. And then this inner struggle starts in man. What I understood is that in this struggle in man, when he wants to work and be so as much as he understands, eventually he will need to reach some kind of sorrow from not succeeding. And from that exertion, prayer will come out. We also read about it in the previous lesson. So I want to understand, where does the sorrow come from? Because the whole process is clear, but how can the will to receive feel sorry that he's not able to bestow?
M. Laitman: Can the will to receive generally understand what it means to bestow?
Student: I guess not.
M. Laitman: How can he feel sorry?
Student: That's exactly the question. He tries, he makes efforts, he is included in a society that goes in that direction, he makes efforts, but when he starts so, as it's written here, the body disturbs him. Sometimes a person is lucky and he can see there's an inner struggle inside him. And we have to reach a point of sorrow, of prayer, that a person is sorry he can't bestow. And I don't understand, where does it come from? Where does the sorrow come from?
M. Laitman: The sorrow probably comes from lack of fulfillment in the vessels.
Student: The vessels of reception?
M. Laitman: Yes, the vessels.
Student: Can you explain it again?
M. Laitman: Lack of fulfillment in the vessels.
Student: From the lack of the filling of the vessels, that's where the sorrow comes from that he can't bestow? The vessels of reception feel the sorrow that they can't bestow?
M. Laitman: You're twisting it around.
Student: I feel like an inversion point. Suddenly the sorrow, it seems the Creator gives it. A person won't succeed in the vessels of his reception, at least that's what I understand. He won't reach sorrow that he can't bestow. It's like a thing in the opposite.
M. Laitman: Okay.
Question (Petah Tikva 6): (13:42) That's my question. A lot of incorporations, and I heard that there's the right kind of incorporation. So, what should I correct in me? I get the right incorporation and go into Lishma.
M. Laitman: With what should there be an incorporation?
Student: There's an incorporation in the lesson, in the meal, in the Congress. There are many incorporations we come to, with all kinds of intentions, with all kinds of preparations. And I heard from you that there's the right incorporation, that we should reach the right kind, and I have to correct something in me for me to get the right incorporation. So what should I correct in me?
M. Laitman: You don't have anything else to correct?
Student: Everything in your possibilities to do is to do? Of course, there's more.
Question (Woman Turkiye 8): (15:15) What's the meaning of the sentence: “And the land will be filled with the knowledge of the Creator?”
M. Laitman: The land means the desire, created by the Creator. This desire ultimately needs to be fulfilled with the fulfillment whose foundation is the upper light. When the light fills the desire, this is called that the land is filled. Very simple.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:12) He writes about those who study Lo Lishma in order to reach Lishma, and then the body is afraid lest the person will achieve Lishma.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What is the fear a person feels when he comes closer to Lishma?
M. Laitman: That all that he invested, everything goes to thin air, disappears.
Student: When the Creator really exposes the true meaning of the work of bestowal, how is he not rejected from it? It's like he's working for nothing.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So, how is a person not repulsed and runs away? How can he keep going even though that revelation for him that the work is just going up in the air?
M. Laitman: How is he not afraid that his work is going to thin air?
Student: Yes.
M. Laitman: He doesn't believe that can happen.
Student: What does he feel? He feels reception?
M. Laitman: He feels that he exists in collecting possession.
Student: What does it mean that the body is afraid lest a person men will reach Lishma? What is he afraid of?
M. Laitman: At the foundation of the desire is that what it acquires will not escape it, that the fulfillment will not go away. And that's what a person is afraid of.
Student: What if he feels even a small confidence? Like he said, he feels he's going to get some promise. So why is he afraid?
M. Laitman: Then there's no fear.
Student: What does he mean when he says that the body is afraid whether a person reaches Lishma?
M. Laitman: That by coming to Lishma he's losing everything. He'll have nothing in his vessels left.
Student: How to use a sphere that awakens in him?
M. Laitman: You have to aim it to be completely in order to bestow.
Student: It's really contradicting. You understand that your work goes for nothing. You'll get nothing, and you have to keep going, and ask for it, and demand. So, what pushes a person to such a state?
M. Laitman: Habit turns into a second nature.
Student: The second nature is stronger than his nature to receive?
M. Laitman: Yes, because the person establishes that.
Student: In our congress that we have in a week, so what's the demand that we want to ask?
M. Laitman: That we will all connect to a single vessel and be able to help each other, each and everyone, in such a way that it will be a complete vessel.
Student: What confidence should we give the friends?
M. Laitman: That I am with them, together, in connecting with everyone.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:24) Just to complete the question, Rav, is that fear, does it remain through the whole path, or does it disappear at some point? The fear that the will to receive won't receive anymore.
M. Laitman: It's a fear that doesn't come from the beginning of the work. There are people here who are with us for several years and still don't feel that fear that actually exists in them. We have to reach a desire where we will feel that this fear is not being realized. And then, from that moment on, we can enter the right track.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:42) Is it a fear that I, each one with their connections, we won't succeed in implementing our opportunity? Could we say that?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How to approach the Congress? It's a big event. We're all connecting together, each one from his state. Maybe we'll all just come blocked and feel nothing. How will we go in? I can come and feel that my friends are the most important vessel in the world that can now help me jump, and feel, and how?
M. Laitman: What?
Student: How before the Congress can we get ready for this?
M. Laitman: That if I don't connect with them, I have no way to guarantee my success.
Student: Yes, that's directed to myself now, what you said.
M. Laitman: Of course.
Student: But how can I, the connection between us? I want to develop an emotional connection with a friend. I want to have an ability to want him to advance.
M. Laitman: To want that he will advance? What about yourself?
Student: I don't know what about myself. I want the Creator to just land on him. I don't care about myself.
M. Laitman: No, you don't want to talk about yourself. You don't want to feel. You don't want to work. You just, just like that. To just ask that everything will fall into place in you.
Student: I want that with myself, I can use it.That it won't be that my purpose will be to receive something. But I want with myself to help the friends. I want to reach it. I want to reach wanting it. Because there's already a connection between us. There's a feeling between us.
M. Laitman: Okay.
Student: Is it good to work like that?
M. Laitman: Yes. Talk to them, if everyone agrees with that, and then go ahead.
Student: So, prepare for the congress, and that way it's good?
M. Laitman: To prepare for connection, to prepare for mutual bestowal, and that all of us together.
Student: Then the reason of the upper one will be able to expand in us?
M. Laitman: What’s with you?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:50) This fear, should it become our demand, actually, if we're incorporating in one another?
M. Laitman: This fear is a degree that if you cross it, if you rise above it, then you get closer to in order to bestow.
Student: What does it mean that I rise above it?
M. Laitman: That you think that you can work above that fear.
Student: You were saying now that the feeling of working against this fear or above it, I felt how I'm burned, as you were saying it, like I'm being burned part by part if I want to go even deeper into the friends.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: That's the work, to feel this feeling, to reach that point that that's where the work is. Without that, I'm not working.
M. Laitman: No. Try, start and see, and check and raise your questions and you might receive answers. And then from questions and answers, you'll put together some worksheet.
Student: And that worksheet, it's like a given state that you constantly need. You've been saying the last few days that not to be sufficient with that state I get to but to constantly have another deficiency. That I won't say, yes, I'm working, I'm connecting, everything's great. How not to miss out on this deficiency to constantly want to advance, start this work truly with the friends, and not to lie to myself that I'm doing the work.
M. Laitman: That's right. You'll get a response, but only from your experience, from your efforts.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:29) He speaks about the fear that the body is afraid maybe a person will reach Lishma. In the previous article, he was speaking about how a person is afraid that he will slander the Creator. How to work with those two types of fears?
M. Laitman: I want to reach a state where all my desires will work only to attain Lishma. And other than that, I don't have any other desire. That's it.
Student: That's on the positive side, but here he's speaking about fears whether he will reach Lishma, or whether he will slander the Creator. Or we shouldn't even engage in that, only in the positive, and that will already...
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:50) Let's add that third fear that a person won't reach Lishma. The fear that a person won't reach Lishma. That's the strongest fear.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: That a person will go through his whole life and not reach Lishma. So, what to do with that fear? I think maybe that's something a lot of people feel.
M. Laitman: That is fear of not attaining pure bestowal. You can get to that only on the condition that we all connect to each other, where each one wants to bestow to the others. And then everyone together, from such a connection, we can succeed.
Student: And then the fear just disappears. From the connection, the fear can gradually disappear.
M. Laitman: It remains within, and you can even work with it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:39) It's really a simple question of what the friend was asking. How does faith work with this fear? How does it affect the fear that a person feels? If he has true faith in the path, in the friends, in you, in the group, what fear?
M. Laitman: Raise that question as a prayer and see what you'll get.
Student: And what I get is the fear subsides. It's there. I feel it. But it's not so much on the forefront of my thoughts. Am I doing something wrong?
M. Laitman: It requires more scrutiny, more sorting, more processing this whole state, turning it into different directions. That's what I'm thinking.
Student: You're talking about discernments about the fear. I mean, when I play football as an offensive lineman, if I had fear about the defensive man fixing to come at me, he usually would win. Now, in this case, it sounds the opposite. Is that correct?
M. Laitman: That's not the case in spirituality. In spirituality, the person ultimately examines himself, and resists himself, and adds to himself. And... It's just not the way I see it in spirituality. But we'll discuss this more. We still have a few days.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (34:05) Do you have a fear or an inner interest?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: How can we incorporate in this confidence that you have?
M. Laitman: I do everything I possibly can. Beyond that, I don't know. I can't. That's all.
Student: What can let me, a person, us, each one of us, be in confidence that we're doing everything we can without lying to ourselves?
M. Laitman: I don't think that there's a person who can actually say that about himself. No. But from ordinary life, how we are, and in this environment, look what happens to us. I think that now, we can become incorporated together, and demand the Creator. Help. Help.
Reader: We have a short Shamati article for the end of the lesson. So, we're going to read. Shamati 138.
138. “Concerning Fear that Sometimes Comes Upon a Person” - Twice
I heard in 1942
Reading: (37:08) When fear comes upon a person, he should know that there is none else but Him. And even witchcraft. And if he sees that fear overcomes him, he should say that there is no such thing as chance, but the Creator has given him a chance from above, and he must contemplate and study the end to which he has been sent this fear. It appears that it is so that he will overcome and say, “There is none else besides Him.”
But if after all this, the fear has not departed him, he should take it as an example and say that his servitude of the Creator should be in the same measure of the fear, meaning that the fear of heaven, which is a merit, should be in the same manner of fear that he now has. That is, the body is impressed by this superficial fear, and exactly in the same way that the body is impressed, so should be the fear of heaven.
Reader: Let's read again.
Reading: (38:53) 138. “Concerning Fear that Sometimes Comes Upon a Person”.