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Lesson on the topic of "Faith Above Reason"

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Morning Lesson December 06, 2022 Transcription

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 1:

Faith Above Reason - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. #77

1. Rav’s Introduction: (00:23) That's the degree we need to reach because that's the degree of the next role as we call it, that is 'faith above reason' which is the degree of Bina which is above the degree of Malchut . When we reach it we will see a new world, an entirely new system, the governance, the behavior of the Creator with us. We will see that in a new way and in this way we will approach the truth. So, let's hear.

Reading excerpt 77. (01:12) “When a person begins the work..”

2. R. (03:05) I think it's clear to us, more or less, that we need to try to reach this state.

3. S. (03:17) Who are the nations of the world and his body and how do we work with them?

R. All the desires and thoughts that awaken in a person and pull him from the right path to annul before the Creator.

S. How do we work with them?

R. I try to place them against the Creator and to annul them as much as possible to ask the Creator to help us with that, disagree with him. Although, each and every moment we wake up and rise, they disturb us in different ways and we see that each word when we position ourselves correctly to serve the Creator immediately we feel a thought, a word that goes against Him and it's true that this is how the thought, a word, an action will rise against, when we wish to do something otherwise we won't be able to feel truly this state; where we are.

So, it's not a bad thing that thoughts and desires and sensations awaken in us are against. We don't consider that this is the work of The Creator what He is doing for us. Our work is nevertheless to, each time to try to penetrate through all these disturbances in mind and heart what awakens in us, and we wish to reach connection with the Creator and the more disturbances we have along the way the better it is. It means that we need to increase our desires, our thoughts more and more, and in this way we attain the goal and the more disturbances we have the greater we will see the goal.

Reading excerpt 77 again. (06:45) “When a person begins the work of the Creator..”

4. S. (08:44) Receiving faith above reason or accepting the burden of faith above reason the actions to accept this burden. What's the action between the two?

R. We need to try and reach faith above reason. And the more we object to it we need to understand that these are the disturbances that we have to rise above in order to correct them; change our attitude towards them. And only in this way we can reach faith above reason.

5. S. (09:56) What is the significance in the study, “needs to sanctify the Creator before the nations of the world?”

R. It means that the opinions, the thoughts, desires that are aimed at connection of love. This means that they belong with the Creator. They will be more powerful in a person in height compared to all the other thoughts of receiving for himself and so on and so forth. The thoughts and desires of the nations of the world in him.

6. S. (11:00) He is talking about doing things by coercion. How do you do things by coercion? This force that brings us to do something by coercion, is it the same force that brings us to faith above reason?

R. Yes. The path of coercion means that even though deep inside I see that I don't have such resistance or or on the contrary I awaken these forces as one against the other and I try to to arrange in me such desires, thoughts, qualities that will be in conflict and only in this way when one is placed against the other I will be able to decide who do I reinforce? Who do I raise higher?

7. S. (12:28) What does it mean to be wanting to serve the Creator with all his heart and all his soul?

R. Try to bring about connection of all the thoughts and desires in a person so that they will be aimed at attaining the Creator. They are coming closer to the Creator that There Is None Else Besides Him, the Good who does Good.

8. S. (13:46) There's like an impression from the excerpt that is truly all-encompassing, like a true revelation for our current state. So, you might say that this is a true awakening from above. What is considered that a student in this situation gives an awakening from below?

R. Each one who wishes to connect with the friends and enter a certain schedule of work correctly. to begin to feel the Creator in the connection between him and the friends, that's how he works. That's how he operates. He wishes to work so that all the desires, all the thoughts come, all the actions by the Creator according to how much you can identify them or identify with them that they will be higher than desires, thoughts and actions that come to him from his body; from his ego.

Then he needs to divide himself into a part that belongs to the trunk and a part that belongs to the nations of the world. The will to receive, the part that is opposite to the Creator and then to the extent that he can relate himself to the Creator and those parts in him, the desires, thoughts, actions are called Israel in his body, when they are aimed directly at the Creator for those that are not yet aimed in that direction they are called the nations of the world and his body because they still haven't been corrected.

S. Thank you very much Rav. What I also meant is the distinction between, where is the Creator awakening us and where begins, that we start to awaken the Creator because it feels like this whole awakening of Israel is done by the Creator and that I feel that I can relate to him but what is my action? What is my true response?

R. My action is that I turn to the Creator and that I ask of Him to connect me with the friends. That He will aim me at the connection with the other and that we will all be as one man in one heart and that is really my plea. My plea should be only in the direction where by returning to the system of Adam HaRishon. That's it, that's it.

9. S. (17:47) What is the significance of sanctifying the Creator before the gentiles in his body?

R. I need to check that all those requests, awakenings that come to me from the Creator, from above in the direction of connection of spiritual discernment, I raise them from among the nations of the world in me meaning all kinds of desires, actions and deeds that belong to what is comfortable for the body; the convenience of my body and in this way I need to sort them.

10. S. (19:07) Can we say that faith above reason we can find in our heart?

R. We can certainly find it in our hearts if we place it and build it this faith above reason which is the degree of Bina which is above Malchut. Of course it can. It should be arranged in our hearts.

11. S. (20:00) How does the ten reach a state that their heart will be in the way of the Creator?

R. By constantly thinking about it. Connecting in the ten and aiming herself to the Creator at each and every opportunity that he's got. Then gradually he begins to see that from these efforts he acquires such a connection.

12. S. (21:03) Should we demand the force of overcoming? Is that the awakening from below? And if a person is incapable of doing this can the group help him?

R. Of course the best thing to do is to do together in the group and the closer they are in the ten they demand the power to overcome. They understand, more or less together, what kind of barrier exists before them. The failure is something else or some other disturbance and then they speak amongst themselves and they ask the Creator to help them traverse that disturbance. That is the safest way to overcome and to reach a new spiritual state.

13. S. (22:20) What is the meaning of speaking between us; uttering words. I often feel that even in preparations for the lessons we don't exactly, truly feel inside what we are saying, we are trying to convince ourselves and that ultimately is what brings us to a new state. So what is the force in this speech?

R. It's not the power of speech, it's not the power of convincing, it's that we are awakening the upper force and it influences us with greater impact with a greater power and awakens in us a new sensation and a new degree each and every day.

14. S. (23:18) I see between us that on one hand and we have a strong desire to rise to faith above reason and to adhere to the Creator and on the other hand the daily reality is always the same. How can we exit this shallowness and enter into a true war for Lishma?

R. That's not good what you are telling me now, that's not good. You are saying that everyday is like yesterday. It's a sign that you are not scrutinizing your states. You are not included with the entire head of what you have got to receive today from the Creator, from the friends. That's why your day today is not just like yesterday. It's not good be careful of that. Try to feel each day as new and it all depends on how much you truly come closer to the friends with full attention and come closer to the Creator.

15. S. (24:52) What are the deeds that a person does that lead to sensation?

R. When they are truly new deeds, when you try to reach a new state.

16. S. (25:12) Is there a difference between disturbances that come from efforts towards connection in the ten and more general ones like family or health?

R. Well family, health and all kinds of efforts in those areas that too belongs to an awakening from the Creator but nevertheless it's not the same degree. It's not the same power that is renewed in the friends in the group.

S. Is there a difference between the work in each one of them?

R. Of course.

17. S. (26:05) What is the reason for the extreme pressure that I feel in my Kli after a congress?

R. You received new desires and they are working in you but you still haven't integrated with them, you're not working with them, you're not cleaving to them, you are not absorbing them. Maybe because of a lack of absorption of those desires from the entire Congress then you feel pressure in it. Either you pay attention to what you got from the Congress and connect with this or it shall pass then you will descend to your true degree.

18. S. (27:33) At the end of the excerpt it’s written that his heart is in pride that he understands all in all. What is this? Is this his attitude toward all the nations of the world? How to understand this?

R. This is called the desires of the nations of the world. I've tried to be proud of others. These are the desires of the nations of the world.

19. S. (28:43) Is there a direct relation between how we feel in above faith above reason and where we are in a state of Lishma? Meaning the more comfortable we feel in faith above reason such that we are closer to a state of Lishma?

R. I would say it's the same faith above reason and Lishma is the same thing. For the time being. Yes.

20. S. (29:19) What is the meaning that he begins to enter the work of the Creator?

R. When he begins to feel what he receives from the Creator the changing states he begins to feel what he has to change in order to respond to it, to connect to the Creator more. This is the meaning of entering the work with the Creator;entering mutual connection with the Creator.

21. S. (30:05) How can we constantly be in pride and go on the path of the Creator and I how can we give this feeling to the ten also?

R. Try and later we will talk about it. Try again. Try first rather.

22. S. (30:44) Regarding the text, what does he mean here when he's talking about organs? That the organs don't agree with his reason?

R. These are different thoughts and desires that awaken in a person against the spiritual work.

23. S. (31:29) Is the person's action to try to love the friend or if he doesn't have such a desire does he need to pray to the Creator for such a desire?

R. Of course.

S. The Creator answers this?

R. He must. If I am asking something from a spiritual work and the Creator certainly and joyfully passes such desires to me.

24. S. (32:09) I heard that we need to awaken forces that are in contradiction to one another. Can we expand on this?

R. Yes. When we advance along the path and we sometimes need to increase those desires that are against the desires that were there before in order to discern them more clearly.

S. So, if he doesn’t have forces that are in opposition to one another does he need to awaken them on purpose?

R. It’s possible. Those things are hard to give as a law. A person who advances sees that there is room for it.

25. S. (33:28) How can we work in the most accurate way with the pressure we take in our Kli at the congress?

R. Try to keep this pressure not lose it but see how we can divide it into pieces, into degrees, into how shall I put it, in two different matters and take care of them one by one. Analyze first everything that we receive and try to answer each one and then make a sentence out of everything. We will work on it more.

26. S. (34:50) When a person receives he makes a decision to go on the path of the Creator. It is written that he is doing what he can. What is the meaning of doing all that is in his ability? What is he doing?

R. Connection. He is asking for the connection. He cares about the connection. He tries to enter the connection, the scrutiny of the connection between the friends and he sees where else it is missing, it is lacking.

27. S. (35:42) It is written that in every place He can give an awakening from below. What is this awakening from below? Who's doing this awakening?

R. The friends. The friends. The friends awakened to ask, to demand, to ask. This is called an awakening from below.

28. S. (36:25) Is the awakening from below to make efforts and raise prayers?

R. Of course what else should we raise to the Creator. Only these requests.

29. S. (36:44) Is a person's reason a component of Malchut or is it the entire Malchut?

R. The reason does not belong to Malchut; it's a result of Bina.

30. S. (37:05) Is the only way to deal with disturbances to hold onto the ten above the disturbances?

R. Yes, that's important. To hold the ten above the disturbances.

31. S. (38:38) It says here even if all the nations of the world and his body make fun of him, if they make fun of him.

R. A person needs to differentiate between the Israel in him that is aimed at the Creator and connection and upliftment above everyone in order to connect with the Creator and all the thoughts and desires that pull him towards all sorts of other directions. That's it. And who is he with who does he want to dominate?

S. Is the desire of who wants to rule is enough? Even though the other side rules more and more?

R. It's not important, the main thing is to deal with it.

S. To deal means also to lose. To deal with it means to win? What is that?

R. Yes, yes, yes. To deal with it is to struggle and to win with it if possible.

S. And if every day he loses?

R. Not important. Then every day is new; everyday anew. There is no problem. We must, we need to understand that we need to go out to war so you shall go out to war.

32. S. (40:30) So when the organs do not agree with the work and when we come here to the lesson and we are here it's hard to feel joy at the same time you say we should always go to the Creator with joy. So how can we keep this joy in the place where we push ourselves to work?

R. The joy needs to be from this that you have opposition, resistance, that you don't want to get up to the lesson because it's early, and it's cold, and it's not so comfortable to get out of the warm bed and get dressed and even maybe put on some makeup before you sit before the camera. I understand that it is not the time but the importance. The importance towards the group, towards the world Kli. That here it needs to to show itself. That it is important for you to be together with us rather than with your dreams. That's it. So, make the effort.

33. S. (42:16) I heard you say before that we have to wage war. Who are we waging war against?

R. War with our ego.

S. What are the weapons of war?

R. Am I giving you your first lesson in the wisdom of Kabbalah? That there is a will to receive and a will to bestow and a Creator and the created being?

S. No. When the organs disagree it is not clear how to fight them. They don't agree with anything but there is a force of resistance

R. This habit is a desire to continue. This habit also has to do with the force of resistance so you need to get up nonetheless and work.

Reading excerpt 78 (43:20) “When he engages in the kingdom of heaven..” twice

34. S. (46:50) We tried to scrutinize this excerpt yesterday. We still have a question from a friend about this excerpt and how he is proud in the way of the Creator. Can you explain this sentence?

R. It is very simple. He raises his heart in the ways of the Creator. He needs to raise his heart higher than all the egoistic, earthly desires that awaken in his heart. Quite simply. Take it like this for the meantime.

S. Who does it belong to? You walk in the ways of the Creator or those that do not walk in the ways of the Creator?

R. For those that do not go we're not talking about that all. In the wisdom of Kabbalah we are not talking about those at all. We speak only about those people who receive in all sorts of degrees, opportunities awakening to rise.

S. What does it mean that he understands more than everyone of the excerpt? What does that belong to?

R. The body makes him understand, go and look at the reputable people who understand what is the work of the Creator. It is about this that they said that his heart was proud. Meaning that he was proud that he understands more than anyone. Meaning that he should judge how much he understands, how much others understand and how much he needs to raise himself and go on his path and not listen or hear any other advice.

35. S. (49:28) When the person loses something in a given state and the person feels that he loses the whole war. There is a feeling that I lost the whole war in bestowal. What does a person do during a loss. He received a state and he was not able to deal with it?

R. So he didn't succeed. He falls.

S. Yes, but there's a feeling that there was a correction to do and I didn't do it.

R. His correction is that he falls and he feels that he falls and after some time he is lifted and he continues.

S. But I have to deal with that state again?

R. Of course. So what?

S. What will happen next time?

R. Next time you will be stronger. You will have experience in falling like a baby.

S. I will get the power to deal with that?

R. Yes, yes.

36. S. (50:56) What the previous excerpt is talking about is: don’t depend on anything external, only the power in the faith comes from within you. We are not moving because of any wind that comes here and there?

R. I would say so.

S. So, if I'm on a desert island, what does that have to do with connection, that I consider the others? Do you understand what I'm asking?  On the one hand I'm only dependent on my inner voice and that on the other hand- what is the connection with the other voices?

R. I don't quite understand you are dependent on your forces. So what is the problem? You want to connect with others. Focus on your forces and slowly get ready to get closer to the opinions of the friends.

S. It speaks about only listening to my own voice so is the connection with others or the consideration of others, containing the others if I only hear my own voice?

R. So try to exit your voice a bit and incorporate with the others; the friends.

S. So I don’t erase anything, my voice remains at the expense of anything?

R. I do not know about these theories. Try to incorporate with the opinions of others, the views of others. That is it and then we'll talk. And you are beginning philosophy here.

Reading excerpt #79 (53:00) “Faith is regarded as having inferior importance and as lowliness..” twice

37. S. (56:16) Typically when we overcome a certain desire comes at the end and triumphs over a person. Will that ever end at some point?

R. We do not speak about this that it overcomes it comes we are talking about the action that I go above my reason. Meaning that I want to do such and such but rather I go according to what Kabbalists say and then according to this I reach to a higher degree; get closer to the Creator.

S. And the body will always value corporeality?

R. Corporeality will always be more important to the body than spirituality of course.

38. S. (57:15) A Congress is a holiday or a festive day for the soul and also to do the lesson can we develop by giving the Creator contentment? Is it like faith above reason in the Congress, in the lessons? When we go in we believe?

R. Yes. We have to do it precisely like this. Very good.

39. S. (58:01) When we are overcoming we also say that we go from the left to the right side. When we see all the resistance we give importance to and we feel resistance to the connection, we go to the meeting anyhow; we try to bring high spirits. What is exactly the difference between going to the right and going in faith above reason?

R. In faith above reason the main thing is that you are going without proof. Rather in the right line you have proof that you're going in the right line. Nice question.

40. S. (59:00) Typically when you say he was proud or he was lowered. These things do not warm a man's heart. It is like a rebuke but here it says that this is something that is excellent. Is this how it is?

R. This is how it is. Exactly that way.

S. Meaning in this state when they say that his heart was proud it is positive?

R. Yes.

41. S. (59:40) Where does a person take the power to go above reason?

R. He takes the force from this. That also in this state he also is connected to the Creator and receiving forces from there.

42. S. (01:00:13) Meaning that his heart was proud. Meaning that his heart has become vain but his heart becomes more refined?

R. I don't hear.

S. His heart that was proud is not that it was vain rather he becomes more complex, refined?

R. Correct.

43. S. (01:00:42) In passage number 79 it reads, “this is because all the concepts that contradict the path of the Creator are worthless concepts.” Since everything comes from the Creator how could they be worthless?

R. Because faith above reason comes from a higher degree than the present, current want. So, it’s mind is higher than the current one: that the current one is not worth anything.

44. S. (01:01:35) From this article I have a feeling that as if they are dropping us, this layer of falsehood and we have to come out of it. After the Congress there's a clear feeling that you can choose something else which is joy because we went through so many states, ups and downs and there's a feeling that I can choose joy, gladness that if they cover me with a layer of falsehood I can come out of it and ask the Creator to do everything quick or accelerate times to go through everything faster. How correct is this feeling?

R. It is a good sensation and a correct and it will go on to strengthen.

S. And when I ask for the friend?

R. Why are you asking if, even faster if you are asking for the friends?

S. The one who is impressed from his friends, is for his friend, is impressed first.

45. S. (01:02:48) In excerpt 79 he writes about 'Faith Above Reason' relative to importance that it is high in importance, low importance. Is faith a result of importance? How does it work?

R. No, there is faith and there are degrees of faith. Each degree has its own relative number of importance.

S. What does it mean when he writes that this is lower in importance?

R. Low in importance is that his faith is low in importance.

S. The quality of faith, the quality of bestowal isn't that something that you attain?

R. Yes.

S. What exactly are you attaining importance? What exactly are you attaining? Where is bestowal here?

R. You attain the degree of faith. Maybe you were trying to ask how I am measuring it? How am I weighing it? It is weighted according to adjacent degrees. Less or more.

S. When he relates to importance relative to faith, does that mean how he weighs the size of his faith?

R. Yes, the importance of faith.

S. The ability to lift faith from the state of lowliness, what does that depend on and the person's ability to lift it?

R. I didn't quite understand.

S. It turns out that a person is naturally opposite the faith to bestowal?

R. Correct.

S. How from a state when you are entirely opposite to it, it becomes important to you? You want it?

R. The extent of the light illuminates upon you, the light of Hassadim of mercy, the light of faith Emunah, then you rise above yourself in something and accordingly you measure the part that it has in it, illumination in faith and part that it does not have it and then you weigh this degree.

S. Clear, but what I'm trying to grasp is what is the purpose in having a person completely opposite of bestowal?

R. That he will rise to such a degree of bestowal and that he will correct himself when he reaches some degree of bestowal then he already identifies with the Creator.

46. S. (01:06:19) Which reason are we talking about here? There is a feeling that we're talking about how we are obligated by the Creator to r serve me. Seemingly everything is in conflict, it is not I that needs to serve HIm so that H will serve me.

R. We demand the light of faith then we can say that we demand that the Creator will assist us and do the work for us but it only brings him joy because His desire is only to bring us joy.

Excerpt 80 (01:07:12) “With the Creator, faith is ot considered lowliness, since..”

47. R. (01:08:21) Let's clarify a sentence here, though it is good and it's common, nonetheless it is not clear all the way the path of faith is more successful than reason.

Excerpt 81 (01:08:48) “The failures themselves cause one to take upon himself..”

48. S. (01:11:22) To choose faith above reason is this something that I can do in any moment of my life?

R. As a principal yes, if you have such an opportunity.

S. What does it mean that at any given moment I can choose faith above reason?

R. That you can determine where your faith is and when your reason is and you can establish one on top of the other.

S. How to simply determine faith above reason?

R. Reason is what you know, what you have in your hand, faith is what is above this. What you want to establish above it.

S. I do not place it above?

R. Everything belongs to a bestowal,connection, everything that is above egoism.

S. A person feels something, he senses something, and you want something and now he wants to work in faith above reason above it so what does he choose connection with the friend's, how?

R. Everything that is connected belonging to the corrected state, everything that belongs to the corrected state.

49. S. (01:12:58) Sometimes you do in action and after you do the action you come to realize that the evil inclination was a thousand times faster than your best intentions. At the end of this you attribute this to the Creator, is a measure of faith above reason?

R. Try, try to work in this direction and see.

50. S. (01:13: 50) Why in our method I'm trying to understand that I have thoughts that make fun of me. I do not relate to people I relate to the thoughts that are in me and when I want to bestow, I relate it to the world, and that everybody's like my children but this is actually the same thing isn't it?

R. Continue and see and digest these things from all sides and then you'll see what to do with them.. The revelation is still before you, ahead of you.

51. S. (01:14:37) He speaks about the staff that the Creator tells Moses to toss to the ground and in the third paragraph he speaks about this staff of Aaron so what is the staff of Aaron?

R. Explain it to Him in his language, that it gave fruit, flowers, and its blossom right meaning that it budded, that it gave fruit, flowers, just like a tree that blossoms. Aaron had a staff that he walked with and he reached the state that the staff of Aaron budded. That is how it is written. What is the sign about? The sign is that the matter of faith above reason, that we need to reach a state such as Aaron’s.

52. S. (01:16:35) Did I understand correctly that if all of my organs go against the work of the Creator, I have to incorporate in the reason of the friends. How do I do it? If I am weak now especially when I'm alone during the day. Let's say that there is no lesson, so how can I depict the reason and the friends?

R. You have the writings before you, you have to read them in every moment that you have and if you have the opportunity then also disgust with the friends

S. Without discussing I cannot incorporate into friends without any connection?

R. No, that's insufficient. No we still do not have an actual spiritual Incorporation

53. S. (01:17:52) You said earlier that in faith above reason, that  the main thing is that you keep going without any proof, what is the previous actions that lets the person continue without proof.

R. Faith in the sages, that this is what they said and I'm following them.

Excerpt 82 (01:18:13) “Happy is the man who does not forget You, and the son of man..” twice

54. S. (01:23:06) How can you understand that on one hand everything is revealed and open and on the other hand you have to work in faith above reason?

R. On behalf of the upper one that's open, the lower one is closed. The lower one has to open himself up in order to achieve some equivalents with the upper one and then you will understand the upper one will get in contact with the upper one and connect with him and then they will have mutual work.

S. In the previous exit when we read about the staff and the serpent it was not clear there either because once you have a staff you understand it is a staff it but once you know that it flourishes them.

R. If you have proof then it is no longer faith.

S. That is what I'm talkin about so why do we need the staff to bud, to flourish?

R. When you go forward with a staff essentially you are relying on the staff and not on your reason for what you see.

S. It turns out that there is some kind of proof and faith when it flourishes.

R. That is what you want to know? In faith there is no proof in receiving the opportunity to rise to an even higher level of faith.

S. Is that the fruit?

R. Yes, until you acquire a complete state, the highest state.