Morning Lesson November 22, 2020 Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves possibility for errors.
Excerpts from the sources: “Work with Faith Above Reason”, #31
1. Rav’s Introduction:
There is an upper force, the Creator the desire to bestow. Who exists from the beginning this is called the upper nature, it created an opposite a second nature, the nature of the will to receive, and he did it because the created beings have to go from one nature to another, to feel who are they, the Creator and decide and be in these two forms. It's only in this way that they can feel the reality, they only feel the reality of the Creator that will be part of him completely. If they'll live in an opposite way, they'll never know their true reality. The Creator and the reality of the will to receive He created only the only though have discernments when they come to the Creator therefore the created beings their work is gradual. It's to go from the force of reception, called the reason to the force of Faith called above, and anything they feel, they feel between those two states. Between the will to receive, their will to receive that the Creator created artificially, so they will exist. Disconnected from Him so they will have existence, they will have discernment the feeling of self existence, but they exist in their feeling, in their mind and all kinds of actions they can perform and together with that they can choose if they want to be without limitations and understanding and feeling unlimited like the Creator. So to be both a created being and on the degree of the Creator we have to be included of these two qualities, one is called reason our will to receive and what we feel in it and the second one is called above reason, the will to bestow, what we have to acquire which is the quality of the Creator. This is how we need to exist, although we are born in reason we need to develop within reason meaning there's a sense that develops in us what is good to me and I checked in the reality that it opens up to me what is good for me. That's how I develop, that's how I live, in that measure of development. We have degrees, still, vegetative, animate and people, speaking. Each one of them has its own will to receive, his own degree still, small one, vegetative and animate and speaking and accordingly they grasp whatever they can out of reality whatever they can reveal in the will to receive and the last degree called Adam, has the ability to go even higher to start feeling the nature of the upper world, the nature of the Creator, called bestowal. That's opposite to the nature of the lower ones, the will to receive because the degree of man includes in it, also the will to bestow called the points in the heart. This point, this tiny desire can develop and show a person, bring a person the feeling of existing in bestowal like the Creator not in reception like still vegetative an animate. Then those creatures who have two forces in them, they were born this way, who exist this way, who have both a will to receive and a point from the will to bestow they can develop the point in the will know more and more until this point to be very Important in them and they begin to come to states, qualities, people such means that help me be developing this point in the heart in a purposeful way meaning this is how I want to develop and we see how these people come to the wisdom of Kabbalah because that is the means, the method the Torah, the methodology for the development of the force of bestowal in which they wish to develop in them these special people. People who are in it will begin to discuss okay how do we develop the will to bestow called the godly part from above the quality of the Creator it exists and everyone only in a tiny point, how do we develop that? And we search, come to the wisdom of Kabbalah it was written for us by people who saw it, checked it, developed that method, discovered it, teased it out of nature, above nature and then they tell us how to do it. What to do, by which physical study by which study, what kind of habits, order in life, relationships between us, in the family, between the friends, learning with the upper Force, we can arrange for ourselves all those needs that will grow from this point in the heart if it exists in a person doesn’t in awaken in everyone but if there are those few thousands out of the a few thousand out of the millions that wish to reach the way to reach the Creator to understand what it means to exist in the realm of the Creator and not of reception. These people begin to connect according to the recommendation of the Kabbalists, in groups, in tens and that's how they advance. We have arranged a good large group, a group that is advancing, going through the stages of learning how to reach the quality of bestowal, the quality of the Creator and this, the Creator will begin to awaken in us and will begin to have the revelation of the Creator. The revelation of the Creator of the revelation, quality of bestowal, quality of love revealed and this is called the Creator that awakens in us. So we will start today talking about the method, the means, how can we discover the qualities of the Creator to draw them into ourselves, so that the point that exists in each and every one of us from above, will develop into the quality of the Creator, we are growing the Creator in the force of bestowal, the force of connection, the force of giving.
*Excerpt #31 Reader (11:00 - 11:36)*
2. R. Meaning what I see myself not ready for prayer, not ready for bestowal not ready for connection I need to prepare myself for it, since from the beginning I'm just an animal, I just wish to exist like all the animals like all the people and all the animals, because by that a person man does not differ from animals and if we wish to discover point in the heart where it is the Godly part from above the part of bestowal, each shall help his friend in the building of the group and how do we grow the quality of bestowal and this is I just drop of semen and from it we can grow this force in its entirety until it will be called our soul.
Reader continues (12:49 – 13:02)
2A. R. Equivalence of form with the Creator is called the adhesion. The Creator doesn't appear as someone who exists somewhere and I'm coming close to him, I'm approaching Him, I need to feel Him inside of me, the qualities that I'm a will to receive and I want to bestow, these qualities appear in a person. It's just that when we feel that it's near me or far for me, it refers to a feeling that I have if I want to be this way or not. I want the quality of bestowal to rule over me or not.
Reader continues (13:45 – 13:59)
2B. R. I need to understand at all those things were prepared for me by the Creator both the work in my ego and the work above my ego, both in the force of reception and the force of bestowal it all comes to me from the Creator. and only thanks to the fact that He prepared this for me then I could advance and without reason I can't go above reason and the ego also helps me see where I want to get up, I want something, it's all me being directed by my desire so the point in the heart also directs like to receive it shows it how the walk there's a special connection in them I have to maintain in both.
Reader Continues “(15:00 - 16:23)
2C. R. It's interesting how it happens, I feel that it's opposite to me I don't want in any way shape or form I don't want to connect, I don't want to study, I don't want to do any action about bestowal, learn, disseminate in the connection in the friends, I just don't want it, I don't want to connect to all those means that can bring me closer to the Creator, and this resistance becomes clear and clearer from time to time. Each time I need to see myself how I do specifically the opposite of that. That I don't want to do it from the inside and I depict to myself exactly what it is in my will to receive that I don't want it on the inside and on the outside I have to do the opposite and then I do it, and I have no tendency for it, no necessity, no one obligates me. Rather I, myself, I'm trying to find the strength to do something in order to bestow above my own reason and here we think you're going to see where there's a transition between within reason, inside the desire, and above reason above the desire, and this transition is exactly the transition between corporeality and spirituality. Spirituality is built above reason above the desire, my usual desire.
Excerpt #31 Again Reader (18:50 - 21:06)
3. S. You describe to be in that special connection between the points in the heart and the desires can you expand on that?
R. The point in the heart and the will to receive the will to receive is the heart and the will to bestow is the points in the heart. The Godly Divine part from above is the point in the heart and what the Creator created which is not a part of him this is the point in the heart our heart is the will to receive. That is what the Creator created the heart is really the creation still vegetative and speaking everything that we can feel, we feel it inside of our desire, this is called the heart. Inside the heart there's a point or it exists in each and every person accept it and be in concealment, a person does not feel it and then he has no inclination towards the revelation of the Creator and all the way to when this point revealed meaning as Baal HaSulam writes it disclosed its action and accordingly a person awakens. When he awakens the point in the heart it means that the point from above, has the quality of bestow all he wants to discover spirituality he doesn't want bestowal or love he wants to discover spirituality. This point is in its preliminary form when it's revealed for us so he has this inclination, where am I coming from, who's managing me, why was I born, why do I exist, all those things that speak of him is existence and these questions are not in yet in opposition with the general will to receive which is his heart in the point in the heart just follows the heart and he has a higher desire to know, to feel, to understand who am I what am I what for and so on and so forth and consequently a person goes through different means and methods, mysticism, through various psychological theories, religion and so on until it comes to the point where he has to know he has to obtain. Not just to perform certain actions as prescribed from certain religions, certain instruments rather he wants to connect to this upper Force where am I from, what am I did I come from a certain planet or Galaxy, where from and where to and then he begins to ask about that, then he comes closer more and more until he discovers the wisdom of Kabbalah. Then he discovered this lifetime or he might need a few additional incarnations but eventually he comes to it and these questions come to during childhood, children feel these questions to some extent and then later we begin to forget about them because other tendencies takeover, for sex, for playing other games and they are forgotten. So this point in the heart that exists in each and every if a person cannot blurred it out during his lifetime and it shows itself and demands more to know godliness since this is his source, his corporeal and his spiritual and then he performs certain actions to approach this solution, because it's eating him up. In this way he advances towards the wisdom of Kabbalah and there's a great barrier here, a great obstacle since he wants to discover this point this source of his life, this source of his existence, the origin of the entire world. He wants to discover that within reason to know to understand, to feel as he's accustomed to do in this life, with his senses but he sees that it's impossible and here he comes to a state of so what shall I do? So he enters the wisdom of kabbalah and he's impressed by everything but gradually sees that it doesn't work out for him, it's simply not working out since here they are demanding this condition that he can’t digest called faith above reason. It means that if you want to develop your feeling and turn it into a reality that's above your will to receive where that the force of spirituality truly exists around our reality around our world a force that's above our world, that you need to rise towards it. You need to acquire its quality so you can feel it to investigate it, it's true that the wisdom of Kabbalah is built entirely to reveal the upper Force to feel it to investigate it, to come closer to it, to understand. But for that you need to be in the qualities of this upper force This upper force is opposite you it is a force of giving, of bestowal and you are the force of reception, you are opposite hence you can't feel it you can't understand it you can't even locate it identify its existence you feel it exists perhaps, thanks to certain science but it's not discover it exactly feel it how to make it so you can feel it and then investigated it and know what is the source of your life, why you live, why do you exist, what for? So the wisdom of Kabbalah brings us to recognition with this upper force, not to just tell us that it exists somewhere up there because they tell us there's no space there's no distance, it's only a matter of closeness in our distance in our qualities. So how can I bring to myself closer to the concept of the upper force? They explained to us that this concept is a concept of bestowal, a force of bestowal is opposite to me, how can I approach it? They tell me that I can approach it only on the condition that we are building in this world a system of communication with the people like you a ten it's best if you build it with them. As if in the ten you want to come out of yourself and connect to people like you, you receive an example from one another that strengthening mutual bestowal and then in this way you want to create this common force between you this force of bestowal and still it's a corporeal force it's not bestowal but it will be the common tendency of all of you will influence the upper Force so it will come close to you it's one thing. The other thing which is the main thing inside the ten inside your life you should try and behave in your will to receive, but the opposite of your will to receive which is very difficult for people who are coming close to spirituality. They have a desire to receive that is very vicious very heavy, very big as it is written he that is greater than his friend his inclination is greater than his friend and it's very difficult to imagine. What does it mean to be above their desire but above my desire I have nothing how can I get rid of the desire, how can I be against the desire that will be rational, logical, mental, intellectual this is all my “I” this is all how I behaved my entire life according to these vessels and then suddenly I'm walking without any reason without any mind. So the wisdom of Kabbalah says not without mind and without reason rather above your mind and above your reason and you leave your mind and your reason you don't erase them but you just go opposite to it, in contradiction above it by keeping them. So one who goes above reason makes his reason and his mind grow even more and above his growing mind and reason, he has to perform actions that are above reason, that's where he will become wiser corporeally and enter spirituality and that’s how he will grow up, in reason and above reason in reason and above reason, That's why we don't cancel our reason, the way religious people do it and various belief systems. In the wisdom of Kabbalah, it's the opposite, opposite everything. We leave our reason and we go in faith above reason, not below reason. I don't make myself someone who doesn't feel and doesn't understand and doesn't care with my eyes shut, no. But my reason I shut my eyes and above my reason, will have to elaborate on it until it enters the feeling and our understanding and we will be able to exist within it, but gradually it's penetrating and we come to this boundary through which we can go from within reason, to above reason and then after a few ,that will do it then we'll see where's the end of the degree within reason and the beginning with above reason and then we'll begin to climb the degrees. Each time we have reason and above reason and will go above it again, and we acquired above reason it will become our reason and will be able to rise above it, above reason. This is our path. Until we feel more and more how we know the Creator, how we feel him, how we are becoming, beginning to resemble Him in our actions, so on and so forth more and more towards his nature. And we begin to feel the spiritual world, meaning acts of bestowal as a result of them spiritual world, the Eternal world above space time and motion, above all the limitations that we have within reason. And then we'll be the children of the world to come, that's what we want to reach, that's what humanity has to reach and we are the parts that advance the whole business. What I wish to remind you again, is the moment I wake up from slumber where from whatever business I had in the middle of the day I want to advance towards spirituality and begin to understand that now I'm within reason, how do I rise above that state to above reason? I need to think how I am exist in bestowal, in giving, how I am opposite of corporeality to bestow to them in the ten, to bestow to them in this way we will rise more and more
4. S. (36:47) We received this thing called faith above reason this desire to begin with is in us it awakens in us as a need for that Partzuf we connect to the ten and discover it there?
R. Gradually the tendency to rise above reason appears in the person it can show itself over a long period of time for many years, I know people who study the wisdom of Kabbalah, let's say the first 10 years they only wanted to know what's written that's the important thing the study of TES, that's the important thing, to the extent that I know it like a school textbook, then accordingly that's how I feel myself interesting the wisdom of Kabbalah, they study then slowly they started to see that it's not giving them what they want and all this knowledge that they acquired is also artificial. So, what if they study, you can learn every wisdom in the world in this way and they understood that they need more than that. Then they begin to hear to feel that is possible that the path to knowing the Creator goes through connection, through the society, the first 10 years they would look down they couldn't agree with it, to feel it didn’t exist, they didn't see it as important, what are you learning by socialism what you wish to be like Marx or to build a special village out of all of humanity. Later there you begin to understand that if the Creator is a single force and it is possible in order for us to resemble the Creator, we also have to become one force. This is why he broke us and we need to connect, so for years he is working on entering the group, building the group, he's going to different states in the group from not wanting to wanting, maybe this way or that way, until he comes to a state where he begins to understand it is in order to come closer to the Creator to be like the Creator, to feel the Creator he must have the quality of bestowal and the quality of bestowal is for him to come close to other people, that's why the Creator created man and shattered him into many fragments, many pixels and these so these pixels can reconnect and to the extent that they reassemble themselves, to the form of one man, they will feel the Creator so he starts to come close to the matter it takes many years he builds it and does it, he begins to feel that dissemination is very important as well as well and he begins to hear that there's the matter of reason. Before that and I remember it's on myself I was completely detached, disconnected it was something that I was just repeating a few words it's like a mantra well, faith above reason faith above reason, so what? They say Bina above Malchut, Bina above Malchut, what is it, the force of bestowal above reception, bestowal above reception, I don't feel it I don't have this template inside, this model does not exist in me. Then we enter a stage of searching how can I build inside of me this model of faith above reason? Then everything that we're talking about lately, knowledge reason I'm sorry whatever I feel, let's say I wake up in the morning, I want nothing like an animal, a beast. I begin to remember how I can nevertheless to a state of faith above reason what does it mean, that I will perform an act of bestowal above my feeling of reception in order to strengthen the friends and strengthen this Creator, if I just get up, I can wake up as some external goal. Like in the army they say wake up I wake up why? Otherwise I am going to get a beating. Here I have to give myself a beating, that if I don't wake up I'll move further away from spirituality and I want to move close to spirituality so I begin to work on myself and no one obligates me until like acquire within me quality of bestowal that is higher than the quality of reception the quality of the spiritual action that I have to know more than the corporeal rest and this way I advance towards faith above reason it's not about doing some action. It's about checking inside of me how much I need to overcome myself in order to be able to do this action by that I scrutinize the quality of the Creator, how much is it in me or not compared to my own quality that he created in the beginning, How much the quality of bestowal can be above the quality of reception. If I will perform a few such overcomings over myself in place of a corporeal action I will perform an action that I don't want to perform a spiritual action and then by that I will begin to understand the meaning of faith above reason, bestowal above reception. How will I come out of my will to receive and I arise to the will to bestow, I begin to see that this is the degree of my will to receive and above it the degree of the will to bestow and how do I climb from degree to degree from rung to rung in the ladder and then I can check myself each time and rise, this is our work. This is what we're talking about this is the state we're in together with you, this is very important work because this is the entrance spirituality we don't leave this world we are constantly standing our reason in our mind in a feeling and each time we wish to rise above it. In spite of the feeling and the intellect that's why for us corporeality and spirituality are adjacent corporeality below and spirituality right above it, that is how you build it and once I attain spirituality my corporeality climbs to a level of spirituality and I have to climb the next degree above reason and then corporeality rises and spirituality rises further this is called he who is greater than his friend is inclinations greater and that's how we climb that's why we never disconnect from this world. Reality exists life except, above it we acquire the method how to relate to reality in the form of bestowal like the Creator. By that where were we advance above it and we get to know the qualities of the Creator more and more and more until you feel in it and enough coarseness and enough bestowal, sufficient bestowal and then we have a Kli with a will to receive and a will to bestow inside and where you have Tzimtzum, Masach, screen and reflected light and then we go through all those stages faith above reason, the force of Bina that is always above the force of the Malchut and that's how we advance. There are many questions I'm very happy you're all asking, it's very good but just know that it needs to gradually reveal itself in each one according to his state and his degree, but will not leave anyone behind we're going to advance in such a way, that we're all feeling of the Creator at the seeing of the upper world, men and women. it's open in this time for everyone after all, we've come to a state where it's open to all everyone's invited.
5. S. (48:12) Words are incredible, but I want to ask a question if we are thinking people, how can we want to understand without being confused with above reason trying to understand?
R. I wish to understand, do I look like a person who doesn't want to understand, I want to understand everything I want to grasp and get to know and understand the Creator I want do you like him return oh children of Israel, Israel, mean straight to the Creator to the Lord your God meaning we attain everything if I come with my equivalence of form to the Creator I know him, I feel him, I understand him, I am on his level. There is a partnership, I become a friend with the Creator, we understand everything. Eventually everything opens up, everything is promised, is certain my will to receive will be completely realized but on the condition that it will be in order to bestow otherwise it's closed off. The will to receive in itself is tiny what do I want to keep, to eat to drink to sleep, all those little things this is the will to receive where we're if I only think of myself that I close myself off within the framework called this world. Why can't we see the spiritual world, why can't we feel it, why are we in this desire, our desire is small because it's closed off within itself. I only want for myself so what is that, that I'm an animal, the one who resembles the Creator means to expand. How do I invade outside of my will to receive in order to bestow, my will to receive grows, but with the intention to bestow otherwise it cannot grow it's on the vegetative degrees, still vegetative animate, these are the three degrees we have in this world, still vegetative and animate, speaking degree does not exist in this world. We call humans in this way but we are in fact animals and then in order to be more than that, we need to, we only need to grasp the qualities of the Creator, that's what the wisdom of God teaches us Kabbalah. Hence faith above reason is the means from rising to the degree of the Creator and why above reason? Because towards us with respect to us we're all egoists that our ego grows more and more and each time through the growing ego we will rise above it and we will want to be higher and higher still in bestowal above reception, therefore we'll know more within our ego will be wiser, more understanding. We're not canceling it, on the contrary will be wiser will be smarter, we will see all of reality all the worlds. Above the world, above all these galaxies, our world is but a speck compared to what there is and what we will discover. except we need to advance with those vessels that are willing to grasp all of this general reality, the complete reality that's what the head of us, it's science its wisdom and we don't have to believe in anything believe me or faith means the force of bestow of us above reason in us the force of reception that's it. If we acquire a second force in nature other than the force of the reception that we are born in and then we acquire the force of bestowal that's above us, that begets us and we equip ourselves with these two forces and we begin to reveal everything, we reveal everything there's no limits to what we can discover understand feel. Okay?
6. S. (54:07) You said that bestowal means we have to reach bestow we have to reach faith above reason accordingly as created beings what do we give the Creator?
R. We can give to the Creator like we give to our parents, to be good we don't have to give them more than that, since one who gives birth to you wants to see you succeeding, that's what we need to appear successful in his eyes, successful meaning to resemble him since he is the upper force the perfect Ein Sof to the extent we wish to be like adhesion we give him contentment.
7. S. (55:18) In the ten we are trying to build the system of the ten in faith above reason we don't have this power so we raised a prayer together when we are looking for a prayer the first part is reason and then we start asking for faith?
R. Yes.
8. S. (55:56) How do we know if we enter the spiritual condition, I'm in a constant state of self, is it connected with this condition to empower my friends?
R. You have things that you want to do and there's things that belong to spirituality towards connection, towards dissemination, towards the studies, towards keeping the frame or work that belongs to your spiritual development that you do not want to do, so distinguish between the two and try to do things that belong to spirituality that you do not wish to do. They will be for the time being, the actions that are above reason.
8A. S. (57:13) I want to ask about the feeling of livelihood, what we call faith above reason, how does the sense of life change, is it a momentarily or gradually?
R. Like a baby that is growing up you take it on your arm he doesn't know he doesn't understand he doesn't feel it's good for him in your arms he smiles because he feels good he cries when things don't feel good. That's how we begin to gradually get used to various spiritual phenomena we don't understand, we don't feel good, we feel bad, but we must feel bad and good between the two will have discernments. Discernments, you can't get discernments only from sweet you have to have bitter and savory and so on and not only from warmth also from cold. A little bit of things that aren't pleasant you have to have them that's why we have to go through various states and here it depends on the group. how to identify what's good for me and what's bad for me because by myself, I'll constantly check myself relative to my ego and if I check myself, relative to the group, it's not to my ego and rather to spirituality and this is what I have to understand spiritual discernments only happen in the group only it appears to us that each one of us can understand what is the meaning of good spiritual and the bad spiritual and have to realize them but the scrutiny is inside the ten. If I do it inside the ten I don't make mistakes but if I do it in the ten, but if I do it in myself and here you have exactly the direction for above reason vs. reason, because of it within reason is me and above reason is the group and I have to take the reason of the group which is the reason of the upper one. Try it and you'll see how you're advancing, it's not pleasant it's requires strength, but you can help one another and strengthen one another and whatever the group you decides you try to take upon yourself through all the occurrences and I'll tell you it's not so simple, each time you'll say. I don't want it so much my health my strength is faltering I have more important things to do, I must do this I have to do that, but here it's exactly the point of the obstacle, where you have to say whatever it might be, I'm following the group and this way you'll advance very quickly.
9. S. (1:00:58) The question is, these articles that you described between reason and above reason is that these are in transitions, is that a Masach already the screen all ready?
R. It's not a screen but close to the screen what do I have to do
S……
R. No, not yet but it's approaching them.
10. S. (1:01:44) If you can tell us, how do you start when you wake up from a point where spirituality and connection and bestowal are not important to you, what are you to grab a hold on?
R. Specifically on the fact that I have to do it the group is waiting for me. I owe it to everyone that I pass myself to the Creator’s court, to the students I have to get up I have to prepare myself I have to waken my attitude towards everyone, I must I must prepare the field, the general field for all of Bnei Baruch and the whole world wakes up and will have a support a foundation so that it will be easier for everyone to awaken towards bestowal and connection. I feel myself responsible for each one of you, you can do the same thing and it truly depends on each and every one.
S. How is it different from a soldier that wakes up, he also has a responsibility and wakes up?
R. No, they obligated the soldier, they oblige him to get up and I have to get myself to get up. For that I have to grow in my eyes the greatness of the Creator more and more.
S. How do you increase the greatness of the Creator?
R. This you should work and look for and you should do and you'll see the difference between a soldier and a Kabbalist.
11. S. (1:03:38) We talked about the point in the heart. How and is it possible to awaken the point in the heart in an individual if it hasn't awakened yet?
R. If the individual places himself in the collective he can awaken his point in the heart to the degree of his subjugation to his inclusion in the ten.
12. S. (1:04:13) About actions against the desire, we see the ten influences the person everyday causes him to make actions that he doesn't want to do. For instance, we all woke up at 2:30 and none of us really wanted to but we raised the importance and we were all able to do it. Now you started a very interesting scrutiny, why do you wake up in the morning for what a lot of the times it feels like we're missing that, that's how not to miss that scrutiny, does the ten have to do it does the person have to do it?
R. When I wake up I grab myself immediately do I want to get up do I not want to get up what's happening to me inside first I feel myself what's happening inside and from what's happening within discover that reason after I wake up I want to faith above reason how do I wake up we cover and connect myself to the measure of bestowal, my measure of Bina from Malchut that's how we do it talk about it and you'll see that it's possible.
13. S. (1:05:40) You said a person has to wake himself up and take himself to a place of Torah, to a group, study Torah. If a person goes through an accident he broke all his there's someone beat him up and broke his bones. In the moment you wake up, you feel such a degree of pain he is saying he can't contain the level of pain he feels. What do we have on the path that we can have levels of pain?
R. Only enter the group there's no other way and dissemination and inside towards the group or outside towards dissemination but don't stay with whoever you ,forget about yourself integrate in the group and integrate in dissemination, you should dissolve yourself in both and then you'll go quickly through all those things.
14. S. (1:06:57) You said to come to know the force of the Creator, to know him so to know the force of love towards the friends who are outside of me or I cleave to the friends or this Force?
R. You got confused, I don't understand you.
S. You said that we know the force of the Creator as the force of love and bestowal?
R. By integrating in the group and inside the group you begin to know what is the quality of bestowal by bestowing to the friends I feel how they be so to one another. From the source of bestowal that I discover exist between us I begin to get to know the quality of bestowal that can exist above the quality of reception and then from that by acquiring this method I begin to recognize that this quality exists in nature, and out of that I begin to approach more this concept of the Creator. The Creator himself does not exist, he exists only when we build him in you have made me what did you do, you did it in the group in the connection between us such bestowing acts such qualities such relationships that we can collectively call the quality of bestowal the quality of Bina the quality that's above the Malchut, which is the quality of the Creator, that is make the Creator between us
S. When I turn to the Creator with this quality it will give the friend the quality of love who do I turn to?
R. I turn to the friends and to myself in order to implement to establish the force of bestowal, above the private ego of each one towards the others, so each and everyone who overcomes wishes to be in the quality of love and bestowal, he builds in it from the attitude towards the friends quality of bestowal from all these qualities we build a system of bestowal field the Creator has blessed and in this field is indeed the Creator, come and see you have made me. Relative to this field we all work, and we pray to it and we maintain it and each time we birth it more and more. This means that the Creator is between us, not in anyone, in relationships between one and the other, that's why the Creator created the will to receive and shattered it, so we'll have the possibility between the broken parts to discover Him otherwise we will not be able to discover Him.
S. This field, is it a field of the connection between the points in the hearts specifically?
R. Yes, you're confusing me you want to bring everything inside you're pulling it towards depiction, a drawing you don't want to remain in the picture that I'm giving you, you're creating your own architecture out of it.
15. S. (1:11:35) Can we be worthy of faith above reason when I have no feeling of screen, restriction?
R. All of this will come. You are with us for many years, keep on the path you are advancing correctly.
S. As a physicist we see how from the theory of Galileo we move to Newtonian, Einstein with a transition from a lower level of physics to a higher level with everything that has to do with Kabbalah, the question is the wisdom of Kabbalah, the knowledge that is accepted in the external mind, is it possible to relate to it as a specific case of above reason?
R. No, it's not part of faith, above reason but a part of faith within reason, we will talk about that. knowledge in our world compared to the knowledge in the upper world and that's how it is in each and every world. This is knowledge that exists within reason and we're speaking of knowledge that exists above reason.
16. S. (1:13:43) If we join the lessons and the meetings during the day with the intention that we acquire the importance of the friends. Does this take us to faith above reason?
R. Yes it helps the more you find yourself in an environment that yearns for spirituality, bestowal, the revelation of the Creator accordingly you truly advance. I am very happy to hear that there are many friends who will participate throughout the day as much as I can in all of those Gatherings. It is more important than sitting or studying alone, yes there are those who love to sit and study alone like a student's, no. In spirituality it is important to do it together.
17. S. (1:16:35) Above reason seems like a kind of coercion that I coerced my reason and action that my reason initially doesn't want and I say there's no coercion in spirituality so it's not clear to me the difference between this and that?
R. We are building faith above the force of reception Bina above Malchut we know that's how it is that it is opposite, they are two opposite forms in the attitude towards something. Either to receive the Creator in knowledge, common knowing or to receive it in faith above knowledge so if I wish to know the Creator more, I need to rise toward him in faith above reason and then this faith becomes knowledge, Bina and Malchut Malchut and Bina, they constantly change places.
S. So there is coercion in spirituality?
R. Coercion, in what? The Creator imposes conditions upon us so that only in this way we can advance, of course. But that is not what they're talking about in spirituality, you cannot feel spirituality, you cannot acquire spirituality by coercion, only through the desire you make his desires as as the Creator’s then you acquire spirituality. In coercion you will receive nothing. You will perform actions but by coercion you will make your desires His and inside your desire just become the desire of the Creator you will feel spirituality. This means that Malchut rises to Bina and it is in understanding where it begins to discover all sorts of spiritual things. Whatever she attained becomes her and then she yearns for a higher degree.
18. S. (1:19:01) If a person discovers in his thought that there is no worse reality than this world and he thinks only in the spiritual reality is the reality of the Creator, how can you feel the importance of this world in the eyes of the Creator?
R. That this is the foundation that the Creator created and from this foundation we need to constantly rise, this world is a storehouse where all of the broken vessels and each time we need to follow to the level of this world, to integrate with the broken vessels, even lower ones to rise and fulfill it. And again to fall and again to climb, this is the spiritual path.
19. S. (1:19:59) When we talked about the Creator of hearing between us we certainly are talking about the quality of the Creator, the quality of love and bestowal. When this quality appears between us, how does this quality later become a personal quality for each of us? Does this quality remain ours personally?
R. What we feel between us will become the quality of the Creator we will let it become your qualities, it's like being in society and you're in it and you here and you feel and you see how they conduct themselves and gradually begin to integrate and corporate there and you acquire their qualities as well. It will happen in this way, don't worry it will be a natural thing.
S. What's interesting is that every one of us when we talk about connection, each one attains this quality but when we talk about faith above reason everyone personally needs to go through the state?
R. Yes. Patience.
20. S. (1:22:00) What is the entrance to spirituality and how do you obtain it with the friends?
R. The entrance to the upper world means I raise myself above my ego to bestowal to connection in each and every moment when I do it out of myself towards the ,ten towards bestowal this towards dissemination, towards connection this means that I do, I take a tiny step forward towards spirituality.
21. S. (1:22:45) We direct ourselves, aim ourselves towards bestowing to the Creator. How do you hold on because in all of the actions and dissemination, lesson it doesn't matter when I wake up I wake up with a desire to receive, that's for sure. How do you aim yourself in the direction of bestowal because it really is unpleasant?
R. You keep going and you will discover more and more how unpleasant it is but you will see that you have no other choice but to pray, to ask the Creator to give you the force of bestowal. You have to come to a prayer, you have a strong point in the heart then you will be able to do it.
22. S. (1:23:48) Today it felt like in the lesson you gave us something new with regards to the Practical aspect of working with faith above reason there are many things that perhaps we will release into the lesson to think about them again. To come out with something concrete now there are many actions where you said it is very difficult to understand if we want to realize something from the lesson today, concrete task how would you approach that?
R. You need to receive it from the lesson each one might hear differently in the way that suits him so I don't have what to say, we spoke in general about our state, how will we from our state come to the final state that is ahead of us. Each one is going through his personal private states which is why it should lead us into the lesson and talk amongst yourselves and try to implement it. I can tell you one thing the action has to be clear, this is what I want now is called reason the quality of bestowal a little bit more than what we have now is already moving towards faith above reason and you can be certain we are moving towards it in each and every moment.
23. S. (1:25:37) Can we say that in the current state the ten for us is the Creator?
R. No the Creator is the force of bestowal, the general force of bestowal in which we will find all of reality and our ten is made of 10 egoist that wish to establish in them the quality of bestowal, for it to be included in them, to awaken within them that they will discover the quality of bestowal on top of their desires to receive. they will not be exactly the quality of bestowal, they will build the quality of bestowal you have made me as it is said, that's why the Creator is called BoReh, we are building this quality of bestowal between us we can't discover him outside of us, Although something exists but we can't discover it, only in the vessel that we build like a detector in which we can discover the quality of bestowal and accordingly we get to know the Creator. As long as this quality of bestowal of ours will be stronger the force of bestowal will appear more and more and this is how we will get to know him. It's not that it's him, when we build him we build the Creator, come and see, and the general force of bestowal that exists outside of that, this we cannot discover for the time being. Later there are other types of advancement after the end of correction we will talk about it and at one point we will come to its, don't worry we may have a different form, different degrees, different states, we will not be in such a way that we will feel ourselves in this world but we will come to it.
24. S. (1:28:08) When we connect correctly in faith above reason the result of this action does it bring us to the same level of the friends or emphasizes the difference?
R. We don't need to be like the friends we just need to be together with them and the mutual quality mutual influence between us all the rest of our qualities can remain somehow as they are right now
25. S. (1:29:03) The change is felt in the new reason?
R. The change is felt, let's say you're right in the new reason.
S. Does that mean that there is no feeling in bestowal?
R. Why is there no feeling in bestowal? We cannot feel bestowal itself, we can feel the measure of bestowal that takes place in our vessels of reception. We never let go of our vessels of reception although we say that we rise above and we restrict, everything is felt only in the vessels that the Creator created. To the extent that we give these vessels a form, the form of bestowal, the style of bestowal but they are vessels of reception and they remain as such. We don't become uncreated, we continue to be created except we are such created beings that we can make the image of the Creator out of ourselves, the form of the Creator. This is the meaning that the name of the Creator shall be upon you. Only the form but the will to receive remains as in it we exist except it is action, it is demonstration it is in order to bestow.
26. S. (1:30:49) What is the goal, the essence, the extract of a corporeal reality compared to a spiritual reality?
R. To always have an origin, a source in our will to receive. Because you come from dust and to the dust you return. That is how it is, it has to be this way, this initial point from which we are, is a very important one. It gives us a yardstick, it gives the level with which we can measure the entire reality.
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