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Daily Lesson (Afternoon) July 10, 2024.

Part 1: Rabash. Record 200. Receiving Pleasure from Three Kelim.

Hello, we are reading Rabash article, article number 200, “Receiving Pleasure from Three Kelim. Study material is on our website. You can find it on Sviva Tova and Arvut. You can also ask questions.

Reading Article: (00:29) Receiving Pleasure from Three Kelim.

Man receives pleasure from three Kelim called “future,” “present,” and “past.”

The greatest pleasure is from the future. For example, when one thinks that he will be invited to a wedding or to an important dinner, where although there are many people in his town, only a few, important people were invited to this dinner, and he is one of them.

1) The meal and the wedding will take place in some time, but he is already enjoying the future, as was said, “Criminal thoughts are worse than a crime” (Yoma 29a), since he has much time to enjoy the future.

2) The present—when he is at the dinner and sees that only important people are attending, he is delighted.

3) After the fact, when he remembers the honors he received at the dinner, this also delights him.

One should depict to himself that he will have a gathering of friends, and he should take actions and thoughts concerning how to appreciate the party.

To the extent that he prepares to appreciate the party, he can then enjoy in the present, during the party. To the extent that he enjoys the present, he can then enjoy the past, since as long as he remembers the pleasure that he had at the party, he feels pleasure in the present.

It follows that one depends on the other: The future depends on the importance of the surrounding, and the surrounding is regarded as that which is destined to come, and the present is called “internal.” The past is called Reshimot [recollections], meaning according to the measure of delight he had, to that extent he remains with Reshimot. This is regarded as Reshimot remaining so as to sustain the Kelim. That is, according to the Reshimot that remain within him from the pleasure, these Reshimot sustain the person.

M. Laitman: (03:31) We see from here that the true opportunity to enjoy from pleasure for us is beyond time, from the past, from the present, and from the future. Therefore, we need to know how to be impressed from the pleasure, because to the extent that a person is impressed from the pleasure, if he wants to thank the Creator, then he already has an opportunity and enjoyment.

Question (Women MAK): (04:22) Did I understand correctly from the article that pleasure from the past is the feeling of the light of Hochma, meaning realizing the Reshimot, and feeling the pleasure from the present is enjoyment from bestowal, meaning bestowal for bestowal, and in the future is that when I want to bestow to the Creator in the future?

M. Laitman: Not quite so. Pleasure is from the real past, present, future, it all depends how I relate to it, which is why this is how we determine it in three times: past, present, future. The biggest pleasure is from the future, since that pleasure is not yet dressed into some form, and I can depict it to myself as so grandiose that in the present time it's impossible to even receive it such into my vessels and to enjoy it in that way.

But in the future, yes, it is possible, which is why the past, present, and future depend on another, but nonetheless, the future can shine to me for a long time, and the present, I can feel it, and then it could get extinguished. The past requires a certain calibration towards it, and the precise connection with the past. So, the best pleasure is from the future, it can be extended as much as you want, and so it actually turns into...

Student: Until it came, meaning, until it turns into the past, and I can enjoy it. It turns out that the pleasure from the future is that I'm constantly yearning to reach the point where I will give contentment to the Creator, meaning that my constant thought at the present is to give Him contentment in the future. So, from your answer, I understood that we need to connect the three pleasures together and to yearn to bestow to the Creator at one point in time.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Kyiv): (07:48) What is this surrounding light that influences our feeling of the future?

M. Laitman: It's a surrounding light that surrounds us and shines to us from the future and relates to us according to our work.

Student: How to do it in such a way that the surrounding light, the light of the future, would be greater?

M. Laitman: It depends on our vessels. If we were to grow them, what does it depend on? It depends basically on our suitability or respect of that future state, meaning if I am the source of that pleasure, of that light, if it shines to me from the future and the present, if I choose to grow it, then my feelings of pleasure would grow.

Question (Turkiye 2): (09:25) How do we come to the consciousness of the pleasure of the Creator? How is this state built with corporeal vessels?

M. Laitman: It's very simple, because we enjoy in the present. We cannot enjoy from the future or from the past. We enjoy right now, in the present. It's always so. The question is: In which source of pleasure am I? Which is why this is important for us if the source was in the past, or if it's in the present, or if it's in the future. But whatever we feel, we always feel in the present.

Question (MAK 39): (10:45) The past influences our current state? And regarding the future pleasure?

M. Laitman: The future pleasure is if we just depict it well to ourselves, then we can draw them to ourselves in advance. And even now, to feel a certain thing from that future coming out of our past experience and in our confidence that this future will surely dress in us.

Question (KabU 10): (11:41) This facility of being able to behold the future in your heart and to hold you, the World Kli and the friends in the highest warmth. Does this actually make it happen? Because the initial thought is complete to the very end.

M. Laitman: But it's not towards the future because we don't yet feel the future. The future is a mere illumination that shines for us a bit from the future. And it's also to the extent that I can depict it to myself in the present.

Student: Does dwelling on the future make it happen, though? It broadens the vessel of reception towards what you wish for.

M. Laitman: Yes, of course. As much as we engage more in the pleasure of the past, present, and future—it doesn't matter which one—by that, we grow the vessels.

Question (Petah Tikva 22): (13:20) Rabash links the future. For example, you expect a wedding, he writes. He links it with thoughts of criminals that are harsher than the crime itself. What's the meaning of that?

M. Laitman: Just to give you an example that if you depict something both in the positive and the negative, the plus or the minus, you can depict it in a way either more than what it was or less.

Student: And how should we truly depict it so it won't be criminal thoughts?

M. Laitman: We need to depict it as correctly as possible and to know to what extent we can rely on our vessels. Let's say that I depict something to myself. So I, together with that, need to speak with the friends so that my outlook on the pleasure will be as correct as possible. Not above or below.

Question (Petah Tikva 22): (15:00) It turns out that the main pleasure comes from yearning?

M. Laitman: Yes. The main thing is in the yearning.

Question (Tbilisi): (15:22) To the extent that I make an effort to adhere to the Creator as The Good That Does Good, to that extent, the pleasure of the past and the future funnels with me in the present. The problem is that I cannot return it to the Creator and because of that, I feel great shame towards the Creator and towards the friend. From that, my prayer to the Creator rises that He shall help because it's very shameful. To what extent is my state real and correct?

M. Laitman: I think that, in general, the situation is good, but it can stop you and give you an incorrect direction. We need to simply always take into account the Creator's love and to take into account your own aspiration to love the friends and out of that to build the present and future.

Question (Women MAK 26): (16:59) In Kabbalists, there is a degree of a prophet when they see the future in their reason. Is there a certain special organ to see this light or is it the internal light for them already?

M. Laitman: It's already the inner light for them.

Question (Women MAK 56): (17:34) Is a true pleasure our correction? How is it correct to use the two sources of pleasures, the past and the future, in order to correct the present?

M. Laitman: We need all of our future pleasures and past pleasures to feel in the present and to try all the time to be in such a state, and out of it to thank the Creator and to aspire to a connection with Him.

Student: Can I ask it differently? In the past, for example, for me, the bad is more influenced by the past and for the future we yearn for good and good desires, and we receive from that endless pleasure. With the present I understand that with the good you can cover the bad that comes from the past.

M. Laitman: Everything is correct. We need to yearn and aspire for the good to cover all the bad.

Question (Women Piter): (19:31) Can there be pleasure in the present to the same extent as one from the future?

M. Laitman: Yes. In general, we cannot do much about pleasure. We can increase it, decrease it, but it depends on our vessels. If I contemplate for a long time about my desires and try to connect them and to form some kind of a goal, some kind of a fulfillment, and by that I develop them, then I'll be able to feel greater fulfillment that comes to me.

Question (Women Moscow 6): (20:44) In the Ten, we build a common state, we raise a common prayer where we want the Creator to be between us and we are as one. And in the present, I test within me whether it is true. Is it my inner prayer?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (MAK 33): (21:20) He compares the gathering of friends with something negative. What is the meaning here?

M. Laitman: No, I don't feel that he compares it in this way.

Student: So, is it just an example for the future?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Women Heb 2): (22:19) According to the example, it is written that he enjoys the meal because he knows what is going to happen in the dinner. We would like to reach bestowal and we don't know what bestowal is. So how can we enjoy the future if we don't know what will happen with bestowal?

M. Laitman: You can enjoy the future because you will have an opportunity and you already have an opportunity to please the Creator.

Student: How to describe to ourselves in a clean manner the future states and to draw them to ourselves?

M. Laitman: As much as we think about them, we will understand where they are coming to us from, and this way we will be able to comprehend them and to continue.

Question (Women Tbilisi): (23:34) Do we need to put a screen and restriction on pleasure from the future states in order to enjoy the future?

M. Laitman: In general, of course, yes. If we feel it as pleasure then we must receive it in the suitable vessels, meaning in order to bestow.

Student: Meaning, at this moment I don't have these vessels. Therefore, I don't want to enjoy the feeling of the future.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Hadera 1): (24:22) Things are more complicated. At a given moment, a person is in pleasure from the future, from the present, and from the past. It's not as if we're going only with such states. Which one influences us more, the pleasure from the future or from the past?

M. Laitman: We're truly in a mixed type of connection in three of these types of states or times. What's important for us is that we want to arrange our pleasure from our state such that we will be able to pass it to the Creator.

Student: Meaning, the force of The Good That Does Good is what eventually determines our experience for that moment?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Hadera 1): (25:37) Here it's written that the surrounding light gives the biggest pleasure.

M. Laitman: Because it's not limited. It has no vessel. It comes as an illumination from afar.

Student: But it's inner light that he receives in the present, and even before he has a screen and a vessel he receives it. Is it not farther away from the thought?

M. Laitman: Yes. The strongest is the present light, what I'm receiving right now in my vessels, but I can develop my vessels such that the illumination from the future can be greater than the light that I receive in the present.

Student: Meaning, this is imaginary?

M. Laitman: Yes, it's an imagination.

Student: There may be a negative connotation. It's because a person’s reception is completely egoistic because he imagines how important he is and how much he is very well respected and because of that he is doing a crime.

M. Laitman: Yes, correct.

Question (English 1): (27:27) What needs to be our request in order for this moment between past and future to be felt in a clearer manner? How to make this moment that's called life between past and future clearer.

M. Laitman: That's when we combine the past, present, and future and all together we address them to the Creator, that it's all from Him, unlimited by time and in the feeling and in our adhesion with it.

Student: And I need to hold on to constantly hold onto it in the intention?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (MAK 24): (28:31) In spirituality there is no time. We enjoy everything from the past, present, and future. Is our goal to see all this as one complete whole?

M. Laitman: That depends on a person, to the extent a person feels a state and that he can divide it into past, present, and future. To what extent he is connected to the friends and through them he can pass these feelings of his. It depends on the person.

Student: Meaning this could be an individual goal for someone if there is such a yearning because past, present, future is all from bad, but in order to collect them together it all seems too complicated.

M. Laitman: Of course.

Question (MAK 39): (29:42) If faith is a desire from above, then past and future are our present?

M. Laitman: Of course, it shines now but we just call it the past or the future but nonetheless we receive it in the present.

Question (Women MAK 53): (30:24) When the pleasure we receive is not aligned with what we expected, what is our work in that case?

M. Laitman: To show the Creator what exactly are you expecting?

Student: If I feel that the pleasure is good for the Ten and the Creator, if I give upliftment to the friends through this pleasure, will I somehow be able to grow from that and reach the true form?

M. Laitman: Of course. The pleasure depends on which vessels are receiving it.

Are you limiting it or the other way around?

Question (Women MAK 19): (31:32) Rabash writes that the illumination from the future will always be more precise. Rabash tells us that the illumination from the future, like you said, there's illumination from the future, it becomes thinner and smaller?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: So, if we have this imagination of this future, how can we unite such that this imagination will be one whole and not something different together with Rav and the group?

M. Laitman: We need to discuss it, all of us together, together in the circle between everyone, and then it will succeed.

Question (Women Baden-W): (32:49) We depict to ourselves the future as if invited to the present. If I'm to depict it as the future that there will be the end of the war, if it's written, then it's like a book of life. These are the vessels that are suitable to the Creator, and if we were to do this type of writing exercise together with the Ten, it's always returned to that point to connect the nation of Israel.

M. Laitman: We need to act that way.

Question (Women Moscow 8): (33:52) There are states where we feel ourselves in a state that has no past, no future, it's just that pleasure where you cannot move away from. What will help us to move from that point?

M. Laitman: To be incorporated with the friends, that's the surest thing, to really give in to them, to devote to them.

Question (Women MAK 104): (34:41) How not to hold onto the past, to be stuck and to feel to blame for it?

M. Laitman: Whatever happened, everything was done by the Creator. So, the person here has nothing, so he can let go of the shame.

Student: In the group, we have a goal, we have a plan, we know exactly what to do. We're walking on this paved way that teachers paved for us, and if we walked correctly, does it influence the present? If I already depicted that I'm walking on the right way?

M. Laitman: Of course, it affects all times.

Question (Women MAK 30): (36:00) It seems to us that in this article Rabash divides corporeal pleasures from the spiritual ones, because when he explains that there is a pleasure from the future, let's say, if in the group there's such a perspective that we want to rise together to the first degree of spirituality, so then the light from that degree shines to us as the surrounding light. It can shine for us, this path, and it will grow our yearning to rise. But if it's some corporeal outing, it's just a means to grow sins?

M. Laitman: Nevertheless, all the ways lead to the same place.

Question (Netanya): (37:19) With your permission, Rav, I'll read the last paragraph, and I'll ask a question, if you let me. “It follows that one depends on the other: The future depends on the importance of the surrounding, and the surrounding is regarded as that which is destined to come, and the present is called “internal.” The past is called Reshimot [recollections], meaning according to the measure of delight he had, to that extent he remains with Reshimot. This is regarded as Reshimot remaining so as to sustain the Kelim. That is, according to the Reshimot that remain within him from the pleasure, these Reshimot sustain the person.”

And my question out of this excerpt: What revives a person and gives him eternity in practice? It's the same pleasure that he produces from the Reshimot?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, reviving them is the pleasure that he gets? If he doesn't receive the pleasure, he's considered dead now?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Women Rus 10): (38:35) Do we understand this article correctly, that it's talking about the importance of our preparation, to the extent that we aspire to the Creator, and that we want to please Him, then by that we can come closer to the future state?

M. Laitman: Very precise.

Question (Women Kyiv): (39:31) We were invited to a holiday outing, and we have neither clothing, nor a present; bestowal. How do we deal with that shame?

M. Laitman: Why were you invited? What sort of an organization is it?

Student: For a gathering of friends, and there's a shame that we're incorrect, that we don't have any presents for it.

M. Laitman: It only seems to you that way. Do something on your own, bake a cake, and that will cover everything.

Moderator: If I understood the friend's question, he uses this example here, that we were invited to a gathering of friends, and you come to the gathering of friends, and basically don't have what to give. How do we deal with that shame?

M. Laitman: If I'm coming to a party, and I want to give to them, I take out of myself good spirit, connection, love. They will feel it, and it will fill their entire vessels.

Student: A person always has what to give, even when he feels empty?

M. Laitman: Yes. The main thing is not to be in the same mood that she is in now. She needs to come there with an embrace for everybody, and kisses for everybody, and everything will work out.

Question (Women Eng 1): (41:28) Is it relevant to translate today the books of Kabbalah into small languages, like Estonian, and if yes, should it be an easy book or something difficult, more difficult?

M. Laitman: I do not know. It's hard for me to say what exactly to do, so you need to investigate. I think that the Estonian people are transitioning to English.

Question (Women MAK 25): (42:30) The impression is such that the example that's in this article that during the future pleasure, it's an egoistic pleasure. How do we use that example in order to learn from it the same thing, but to get the pleasure from the bestowal?

M. Laitman: Depict to yourself that you're giving a gift to a beloved person, and what you're doing for him is not giving, you're receiving.

Student: It turns out the concentration is to be that out of my investment, someone else will feel it.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (H 8): (43:32) Why do we receive all the corporeal pleasures; why do we need them?

M. Laitman: We need to enjoy from them to the extent that we can enjoy from them, and in a way that we are able to enjoy from them, and we need to build above them an intention to bestow. Then the pleasure that I receive turns to a means through which to bestow, and in such a way all the pleasures that I receive from the Creator, I turn to bestowal, to giving to the Creator. This is called, My son has defeated Me. That's it.

Question (Women Moscow 1): (44:35) Do I understand correctly that you said we need to pass the feelings through the friends, and this action that we are doing before our common action event, we'd see what our impressions and how we depict the future, or maybe after the event we combine our reflections about the past, clarify these things. Is this the tool that we have in order to grow this vessel to receive pleasure?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Women MAK 97): (45:20) This image of Adam HaRishon shines to us from the past state before the sin, or from that future corrected state of Adam HaRishon?

M. Laitman: From the future.

Student: Can we say that prayer brings closer that future pleasure that the Creator prepared for us?

M. Laitman: Yes, of course.

Question (Women Almaty): (46:04) If we want to depict to ourselves our corrected loving form in adhesion with the Creator in the egoistic form, is that good for advancement or is that only grow our ego? Will that common work with the Creator, does it help or not? Another question: How do we correctly depict our future giving state?

M. Laitman: For the first question it necessarily helps, use it, and for the second question, the main thing from the connection between us, the friends, is to produce such a relationship or attitude towards the Creator that everybody would agree with, and then you will not miss out.

Question (Women Latin 13): (47:28) When everyone, or most of us, are meeting in the Ten, it gives us a lot of happiness. How do we use this pleasure that it gives us in order to return it and not just to fill ourselves up with pleasure?

M. Laitman: To pass on this pleasure from friend to friend, between all of us and also to other groups. We have a lot of groups in the Latin Americas, and by that you will be able to warm the vessel up.

Question (Novosibirsk): (48:10) How to help a person for whom it feels like he lost the ability to dream and to depict that state with the Creator.

M. Laitman: Rest a little bit. Nevertheless, continue reading Kabbalah books, participate as much as you can. There are ups and downs, ascents and descents. Everything follows a scientific graph.

Question (Women Turkiye 8): (48:55) Is it correct to yearn for our past selves? What can we do with this yearning to nonetheless advance forward?

M. Laitman: To awaken this yearning more and more, to connect between us, and to bring everybody forward as much as you can. You have a lot of strength, a lot of force.

Question (Women Spain): (50:10) How in the current state that we hold onto the awareness of the bestowal and the Arvut, how not to be in the past?

M. Laitman: We need to yearn to what we have today, and beyond that, to what we are expecting to happen tomorrow. That's it.

Question (Women MAK): (50:50) These are the Reshimot that remain within him from the pleasure, these Reshimot sustain the person. Which person? Whatever we depict, it's all in the Creator, and we need to realize it in the present, from the future in the present? And in that way we form ourselves, everything is the Creator, whatever we depict, and in that way we form this one whole, which we were once, and even greater?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Women Kavkaz 1): (51:35) This model of perception of reality shattered for me. It turns out that in the past, there are these Reshimot, and it seems as if that's what's opening up for me and becomes the future for me. So, it changes for me where I am in the middle there. So, something from the past called the Reshimot is revealed to me, and so my work is… I'm not quite sure where my work is. Why are the Reshimot called the past?

M. Laitman: The recollection, the Reshimot, are from the past. It's an impression, an experience from my actions in the past, in my previous actions. Even now they define my choices, my actions, but they're from the past.

Student: A huge number of my Reshimot, I'm still waiting to reveal, so as if all the time returned to the past?

M. Laitman: Reshimot are the light that was in us and later on disappeared, and the impression from it is called Reshimot.

Student: These are vessels for me, but I cannot use the vessels that I don't feel. I grow my awareness in order to be able to receive pleasure in those Kelim, but it’s in the future I need to do that.

M. Laitman: There are a lot of things in front of you that you need to do.

Question (Women English 1): (53:41) This article is very deep. What exactly is it trying to tell us about this vessel? We only have the present, and from the present I am grateful for all that has happened in the past that has brought me to the present, and I feel joy that I would never have been in the present if my past had not happened. But then in the future, I'm looking for a greater connection with the Creator. So, how to bring all of this together with the correction?

M. Laitman: This will come later; it will connect on its own.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (54:49) Are there the past and the future at all? Because basically it's all felt in the present.

M. Laitman: It is correct that the feeling is only in the present. However, we have influence from the past and possible influence from the future. Even though we only feel in the present.

Student: So, in the present we have no other feeling?

M. Laitman: No, there isn't.

Student: So, when Kabbalah is talking about rising above time, what does it mean?

M. Laitman: To go above time is when we are making actions in order not to be connected with the past, present, future.

Student: When a person is above time it's not the present? Whatever he feels, regardless of what space it is, it's not the present for him?

M. Laitman: No, that's not the present. It's called that he is outside time.

Student: What does it mean outside of time?

M. Laitman: That he's not determining whether now he belongs to the present, future, or past.

Student: So, what is that reality above time?

M. Laitman: It's that we can relate it to future, past, present.

Student: That reality splits into past, present, future?

M. Laitman: That depends on us, the vessel that feels.

Student: What is it? Is it just one big present or past, present, future or just no feeling of time? What is it?

M. Laitman: If you have the sense of time then you are already in past, present, future,

and you can already determine what controls you. But it could be that we are not relating ourselves to any time.

Question (Women Hebrew 2): (57:45) It's written that on the one hand we shouldn't look in the past and on the other hand we should. How do we work correctly?

M. Laitman: To work correctly we need to connect with the past to those certain states which I had strength and I trusted myself, the recollections as well, and continue from then to the present.

Student: Everything you're talking about is all happening to us in the present. And the future is what happened to us in the past?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And we need to act according to what there was in the past. There's a sentence: A nation who doesn't know its past, its future is bleak. It's like you're saying that it's all connected to the past?

M. Laitman: I am sorry but I have to finish the lesson already. Until tomorrow, friends. All the best.

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