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Congress Lesson 3. (Evening), September 13, 2024.

Lesson 3: “Walking in the Footsteps of the Kabbalists.”

Reader: Lesson number three in the Convention: “Strengthening The Ten,” is the topic of the Convention. Lesson number 3’s topic is “Walking in the Footsteps of the Kabbalists.” Rav, please, “Walking in the Footsteps of the Kabbalists.”

M. Laitman: This is lesson number 3: “In the Footsteps of the Kabbalists.” Let's enter that, and then continue into all kinds of other directions you would like to ask or discuss.

Reader: With joy. Lesson number 3, “Walking in the Footsteps of the Kabbalists,” excerpt number 1, by Baal HaSulam.

Reading Excerpt 1: (01:02) Baal HaSulam, "Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot", Item 8

Come and see how grateful we should be to our teachers, who impart us their sacred lights and dedicate their souls to do good to our souls. They stand in the middle between the path of harsh torments and the path of repentance. They save us from the netherworld, which is harder than death, and accustom us to reach the heavenly pleasures, the sublime gentleness and the pleasantness that is our share, ready and waiting for us from the very beginning, as we have said above. Each of them operates in his generation, according to the power of the light of his teaching and sanctity.

Our sages have already said, “You have not a generation without such as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”

M. Laitman: (02:31) We need to try and invest plenty of effort in order to correctly depict how much each and every Kabbalist, those who wrote for us, who told us, who composed their texts, their books. How much they tried, made tremendous efforts to deliver us our Torah; how to exert, how to rise, how to connect, how to open the heart and the ears in order to try and attain what they are trying to give to us.

And how much they exerted and labored and they expect us to reciprocate with a similar effort in order to enter into contact with them, mutually. And we'll be able to attain what they prepared for us and we will respect them, hold them in high regard, connect between us, and to them. And understand how we can save ourselves from this difficult life, and rise to a spiritual degree. They've prepared it all for us and we just need to use it correctly. Again.

Reading Excerpt 1: (05:11) Baal HaSulam, "Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot", Item 8

Come and see how grateful we should be to our teachers, who impart us their sacred lights and dedicate their souls to do good to our souls. They stand in the middle between the path of harsh torments and the path of repentance. They save us from the netherworld, which is harder than death, and accustom us to reach the heavenly pleasures, the sublime gentleness and the pleasantness that is our share, ready and waiting for us from the very beginning, as we have said above. Each of them operates in his generation, according to the power of the light of his teaching and sanctity.

Our sages have already said, “You have not a generation without such as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”

M. Laitman: Baal HaSulam writes this for us. Questions?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (06:44) Dear Rav, who is the Kabbalist?

M. Laitman: A Kabbalist is one who can rise above his will to receive, and with the will to bestow that he's trying to develop in him, he begins to feel the upper force. He acquires the Creator in his feeling, and he continues this way more and more. He continues to extend the upper force, through him and to others around him.

Student: [No Translation]

M. Laitman: They lose nothing but to pass something to us is equal to receiving because they're already in a state of bestowal, where bestowal is higher than any form of reception.

Student: It's in here that they give their soul for completing our souls. It's written here that we're on a path of harsh torments, which are harder than death. If I understand that's where the world is going but this is a temporary state. What does it mean that they're awakening us to reach the peaks of pleasure that expect us?

M. Laitman: We are expecting pleasure from connection with the Creator, from His revelation, and when He's revealed, we'll rise up to his degree. And we will be there and attain the true picture of the world.

Student: I need to be thankful that I received knowledge from them for reception, it's like reception, I have to say, thank you. But they could have not passed it on as well, they could have just advanced themselves. They made here some additional effort to pass all this to us, and not just develop themselves?

M. Laitman: Kabbalists receive, or acquire, the qualities of the upper world and that is why they act in this way. The central achievement for them is for the whole world to understand what they are trying to pass to Him, to It. The whole world will succeed in receiving the upper light that fills the upper world. You got it?

Student: Are they suffering for not succeeding?

M. Laitman: Yes, if this process doesn't complete itself, fully, openly to everyone, to all created beings, then they suffer.

Student: Do you also have such a sensation as this unpleasant feeling?

M. Laitman: Yes, it is similar to parents or teachers who are teaching kids. We see how despite their efforts, they aren't successful in their work with their students.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:14) A little refinement: We meet with our Ten, we read a certain excerpt and then we build the intention. This intention, what should it include with it so that we will be able to join this method, our teachers? We're asking to be joined to their soul, to their method, to their desires. What is it that we have to ask for?

M. Laitman: We have to ask to start understanding what Kabbalists want from us and be ready for it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (13:22) What is the correct gratitude to our great teachers, Baal HaSulam, Rabash, and you? In what way should this gratitude be expressed?

M. Laitman: Gratitude should be expressed by following in their footsteps, walking the path that they reveal to us, step by step. We understand, and in this way we keep their desire.

Student: Now, I see you and I want to use this opportunity to thank you for all your efforts. For devoting your entire life to the wisdom of Kabbalah and to its dissemination in the whole world. Immense gratitude.

M. Laitman: Thank you.

Student: If our great teachers, Baal HaSulam, Rabash, and their internal work, how can we express this gratitude?

M. Laitman: The main thing is to try and keep their advice, and then, in this way rise spiritually, that's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:11) Did Kabbalists have in their past, a hundred thousand years before, any imagination about us?

M. Laitman: Yes, certainly generally speaking, they feel, they understand. They can see the deterioration of the generations and how in each generation there will be people who will want to open up the wisdom of Kabbalah and to attain the Creator.

Student: And now, today, in this reality, they are with us, yes? They are now, also, with us, the Kabbalists?

M. Laitman: Yes, certainly. In the spiritual world, there's no passage of time like in our world. So, they are certainly present and they feel what's happening with us and how we apply, implement, what they told us.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:01) Just standing here, each of them operates in his generation according to the power of light. Is the power of light increasing and what can we do to develop it?

M. Laitman: With each passing day, we need to check ourselves and see how capable are we of observing what the Kabbalists said. Each one on his level with his style, and try to realize, to keep, to observe what they said. And by that, we'll feel ourselves ascending the ladder of degrees and reach the highest state possible.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (18:25) Regarding what you just said right now, there is a reality – the mind wanders. You know, we get distracted, I sit in the lesson, and sometimes, I think not even ten percent goes in. Is there a way for us to individually improve like we get more from the lesson?

M. Laitman: We hear each lesson several times, discuss the lesson topic with their friends, and this way it gets absorbed in us more.

Student: It's like talking with each other, does that help us improve afterwards?

M. Laitman: Of course, because our thoughts, our desires, our tendencies and inclinations, they all work on each other. And consequently, we become more capable of absorbing what Kabbalists are discussing.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:23) What does it mean that each brought His light, His Torah, to us?

M. Laitman: Each one of them rose from the animal degree, like a person born in our world, and afterwards acquired more and more of the quality of bestowal, the connection of love, by which, kept ascending to the highest degrees. Each one of them described more or less his state, his path, his own path. And from that we can learn.

Student: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are human beings, not qualities.

M. Laitman: Of course.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (22:17) How will the work that we're doing here, how will it influence all of humanity and what's happening around us?

M. Laitman: Again.

Student: How does the work that we're doing here in the convention, how will it impact all of humanity, everything that's happening around us?

M. Laitman: Of course it will influence, of course it will have an impact. We are connected to all people, at least in our generation. And, the more we ascend and approach the connection with the Creator, then through us this connection will influence all of humanity, today and in general. That's why we need to try and be correctly connected between us and help each and every one of us understand the lessons, become acquainted with the articles. And open up the heart of each and every one toward everyone else.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:04) It is written, and each operates in his generation, meaning that it exists here and now as far as time, as well? If you could enhance this answer?

M. Laitman: Each one of the Kabbalists who attains the upper world and the Creator can explain to us in what way we are connected, between us and with them. And through us to the Creator so that in practice all of us make up one unified system in which everyone is helping everyone else to attain the Creator. To connect with Him and to pass this connection to others.

Student: We now feel you and you're transferring to us what has come from their understanding? Or do we also need to feel them?

M. Laitman: We have to try and learn from our teachers, how hard they try to pass it all to us; we have to try, and pass it on.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (26:11) Is there a common ear to the Ten?

M. Laitman: I can't see it quite, but it has to be.

Student: Is this something we need to build between us or ask for it?

M. Laitman: Yes, we will see, either to ask for it or to build it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:18) What does it mean that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob exist in us, inside of a person? And how much of that can we really attain?

M. Laitman: We can attain all the qualities that are in Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and use them fully.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:02) How much and in what direction are we influenced from the root of our soul?

M. Laitman: Only in the direction of the end of correction.

Student: Meaning, it guides us along the way, as well?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:30) From the excerpt, “to reach the pleasure, the sublime greatness.” The question is, I understand it's not some personal pleasure but rather when we all together ascend, not just Israel but also our AHP, the nations of the world? Or will it somehow be revealed, also personally?

M. Laitman: You should work according to how you're being taught and don't jump ahead, forward, it won't help you.

Student: It, simply, motivates. On one hand, we have to work without reward and not to think about there's somewhere pleasure that's ready for us?

M. Laitman: We have to work without reward – or with a reward which is the acquisition of the spiritual qualities.

Reading: (29:57) Baal HaSulam. Shamati 40. What Is the Measure of Faith in the Rav Twice

One must trust the opinion of his Rav and believe what his Rav tells him. It means that one should go as his Rav told him to do. And although he sees many arguments and many teachings that do not go hand in hand with the opinion of his Rav, he should nevertheless trust the opinion of his Rav.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:27) We see that the body always agrees with his Rav, even the will to receive easily nullifies himself, before the opinion of his Rav. But what does it mean to go against one's Rav's opinion, what does it really mean?

M. Laitman: Against? It means to follow your ego. It can't be any other way.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:15) What is this netherworld, which is harsher than death?

Reader: The question comes from the first excerpt that was written there: “The Kabbalists save us from the netherworld which is harder than death”. So, the friend is asking, what is the netherworld which is harder than death?

M. Laitman: It's when a person cannot do, cannot keep what's revealed to him, and he enters such a fall, a descent, that he feels himself disqualifying the path. And he cannot keep what the Kabbalists gave him. Then his path becomes harder than death.

Rav Reading Excerpt 3: (33:50) Baal HaSulam, "A Speech for the Completion of The Zohar." Twice.

Every time one equalizes one’s form with one’s Rav, he adheres to him for a time. As a result, he obtains the knowledge and thoughts of the Rav, according to his measure of Dvekut, as we explained in the allegory about the organ that has been cut off from the body and was reunited with it.

For this reason, the student can use his Rav’s attainment of the Creator’s greatness, which inverts bestowal into reception and sufficient fuel to give one’s heart and soul. At that time, the student, too, will be able to engage in Torah and Mitzvot Lishma with his very heart and soul, which is the remedy that yields eternal Dvekut with the Creator.

M. Laitman: Questions?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:33) What does it mean, to equalize one's form with forms of Rav?

M. Laitman: Just as he is now in some form of contact with the Creator, we can receive from him different forms of attitude toward the created beings. So, he activates himself and he arranges himself.

Student: What effort the student should make to equalize his form with the form of Rav?

M. Laitman: Adhesion, adhesion in his Rav, as much as possible.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (38:00) It was said here, “you can use the attainment of the greatness of the Rav which inverts bestowal to reception into fuel.” How does it become fuel, how does that happen?

M. Laitman: Well, also in our world. When we begin to feel the attainment of something, feel a great force in it. And in this way, we can approach this goal and acquire it.

Student: I wanted to ask, you, Rabash, Baal HaSulam, you all want to transfer light to us. What is the condition, we're here and we read yesterday that it really gives great forces. What's the condition that we can observe now in order to open up somewhat towards the reception of this light?

M. Laitman: For that you need to be connected, to learn together what the Kabbalists are discussing. To try and realize the connection between you – try to turn to the Creator together. And by that, in this way you will receive forces from Him.

Student: Meaning, it's upon us also outside of the lesson to continue this kind of wearing between us with our teachers and between us?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:40) It’s not so clear from the translation, I'd like to be more precise, here. I didn't quite understand: The student can use and to receive the attainments of his Rav to the extent of his adhesion to him? Because specifically in the same measure of devotion to his Rav. I remember that in the past you said that the devotion to Rav is a law, without that we can't receive anything? So, in the past you said all of Bnei Baruch is in your heart, and you in the heart of Rabash, and Rabash in the heart of Baal HaSulam, and it's all actually talking about one heart.

M. Laitman: Okay, what else does it make? One heart, let's say?

Student: Okay, so we always repeat what you say – that your teacher is Rabash and Baal HaSulam but, before that, you also said that Baal HaSulam wrote The Study of Ten Sefirot. And that's actually the commentary to The Zohar, and The Zohar is the commentary to the Torah; that's what I heard from you. So, this heart throughout this cascading and generational thing of Bnei Baruch, where does it reach as a root?

M. Laitman: From our heart, it rises up to the highest degree.

Student: Meaning, that the channel of Bnei Baruch?

M. Laitman: I don't like to use all kinds of names, it means nothing to us, it just confuses us. Up to the highest degree.

Student: Okay, so as far as our devotion, how does it impact this entire general heart?

M. Laitman: You are incorporated in the same system; you are working in it according to your efforts.

Student: Can we say that this heart expands to the dimensions of the entire world?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:51) Does Rav always accompany the student? Is it something that's always there, meaning that the upper one towards the lower one always? Just like Baal HaSulam to Rabash and Rabash to you and you to us?

M. Laitman: Yes. That is the connection.

Student: If so, the teacher accompanies the student always, for always?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: That's great.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (44:34) In relation to devotion to one's Rav, it's really difficult to measure these inner efforts. Are there some external criteria that can point to the fact that I’m devoted to my Rav?

M. Laitman: To keep his commandments in the group, in the study, in everything.

Student: Let's say, morning lesson, meeting with friends?

M. Laitman: Everything that he thinks is necessary for the student, you must keep.

Student: I would simply like to be more precise. We're all in different conditions. How do I know that I maximally am adhered to my Rav? Or can I somehow gap the differences?

M. Laitman: Act as much as you can. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:42) Rav, you said that we need to build or to ask. What's the difference between them?

M. Laitman: To build or to ask?

Student: Yes.

M. Laitman: It's two different things. To build is what we have to build. To ask, when we don't know something, and we just want to ask for it in order for us to be able to advance.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:43) On the way of correction do we teach the will to receive to enjoy bestowal?

M. Laitman: Again.

Student: Do we teach the desire to receive to enjoy bestowal?

M. Laitman: Eventually, yes.

Student: Can I ask another question? Resembling the Rav, can we do so through dissemination?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Reading Excerpt 4: (47:36) Baal HaSulam, Letter No. 49 - Twice.

I order you to begin to love one another as yourselves with all your might, to ache with your friends’ pains, and rejoice in your friends’ joys as much as possible.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (49:05) How can my friend convince me because I don’t have the forces?

M. Laitman: We need to show all our friends how much we love them, and that the relations between us should be like those, that which is between people who love each other. That’s it. So Baal HaSulam says, I order you to begin to love one another as yourselves with all your might, to ache with your friend's pains, just like one loves oneself and to ache with our friend’s pain and rejoice with their joys as much as possible. Truly unlimited.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (50:58) We don't know what is love. How can we develop love toward the friends?

M. Laitman: We love ourselves. And what our body wants, each tries to observe. That's how we need to feel the others as well.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (51:52) There’s some subtlety here. Baal HaSulam says, I order you. He doesn't say, I recommend. He says, I order you. What is the meaning of that?

M. Laitman: That he really, it's like he's giving a command that we must observe what he says.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:19) About this order, this command. He says, begin to love one another as yourselves with all your might and to ache with your friend's pains and to rejoice. You mentioned that each one here loves himself or herself and does whatever the body wants. And that's how we have to feel the other. But either I feel the other or I don't. What does it mean to begin? What is the meaning of this begin to love? What is the order here?

M. Laitman: That a person needs every day to obligate himself to come to a state in which he feels the friends and what they want, he observes. As if he's in their body.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (53:45) The souls of the Kabbalists are very special. How are those souls connected with the general soul?

M. Laitman: They are there to begin with. That's where their root is in the general soul.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (54:28) When I go through the study of Kabbalah, I feel this article is like inner work. Meaning I think about my friends more than for myself, and it's the inner work. Because my friends in my Ten are beautiful and they never have some problems.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:38) What will make us demand to feel the pain, the ache of the friend when we can't even deal with our own aches and pains? What will make us begin to feel the pain, the ache of the friend when we are unable to feel and deal with our own aches and pains?

M. Laitman: But if we try to come closer to the friend, we start to ask the Creator to give us the possibility to feel her, the friend, like we feel ourselves. It's a matter of prayer. And this is how we come to a state in which at last the Creator gives us the possibility to feel the friend and to incorporate with her in one heart.

Student: I still feel myself in corporeality, I'm not in spirituality. To love someone requires a warrior, care from someone. So, loving someone can also be scary. I hope it's not the same fear in spirituality. I hope there's no fear in love and spirituality.

M. Laitman: You’re right. It's accompanied by fear and trepidation. It is something we will talk about. For the time being we don’t have sufficient discernments for such states. Soon we will feel it and talk about it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (58:35) We have friends who are distant from us corporeally, wherever they are geographically. What kind of example can we offer them so they would want to come closer to the Ten once again and reacquire the desire for adhesion?

M. Laitman: Simply for them to know what we're engaged in, what we're working on, what we're talking about, where we want to reach, how we are advancing, and then each time they'll decide whether they have a way with us or not.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:00:03) How can we rise above the illusion of a thing and its opposite in order to reach a perception of reality that is all one, like the Kabbalists have?

M. Laitman: This is so with the Kabbalists because they attained it this way. Spirituality for them was also in all the opposite ways and against them, etc.. And later they discovered that there's one route and we need to come closer to it. This is the way, this is the path.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:01:30) First, the acceleration and bringing closer of the end of correction, does that depend on us touching this state somehow, and later, to study it and to grow stronger in it?

M. Laitman: In this action, there are a variety of different steps, and you will feel it, and you'll be able to move through it in a way that you won't err. And meanwhile, it's very early to talk about these things.

Student: Second question: The quality of connection with the friends depends on my personal decision from being a guarantor to my friends?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:03:00) What is the best way to participate, to take part in the friend's ache, sorrow?

Reader: She's asking about the text that Baal HaSulam wrote. He begins to love, quote number four, I order you to begin to love one another as yourselves with all your might, to ache with your friend's pains, and rejoice in your friend's joys as much as possible.

M. Laitman: Yes, well?

Reader: So the friend is asking about the aching with your friend's pain or sorrow. Can you explain, to ache with your friend's pains as much as possible?

M. Laitman: It seemingly means that I am to blame for the friend doing some action that was not corrected, and now he is deserving of a certain punishment for it.

Student: If I am afraid to open the heart to the friends because I am afraid that no one would want to love me the way I am. So what to do? How to open up towards the friend if it's so scary?

M. Laitman: Slowly, slowly. It's clear that if each of us were to open before the others all that's in one's heart, then we will just hate each other.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:05:29) How to truly open the heart in that case? You say that we are capable of hating one another, but we're also advancing towards opening of the hearts. How do you do it?

M. Laitman: To the extent in which we can come closer to one another, tolerate one another, help one another. To that same extent we manage to correct ourselves.

Student: Sometimes it seems like it's happening like a surprise or a gift. We don't really have control over this process. We just talk with a friend, we see it, and suddenly the heart opens. Can we learn to understand these actions, to feel what is the cause and consequence?

M. Laitman: That will come. Gradually it will come.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:06:52) How can we reinforce, increase your point of adhesion with the Creator?

M. Laitman: What do you need that for?

Student: We want to be together with you.

M. Laitman: No, each needs to work for himself.

Student: How, the love and connection between us help us correct the soul?

M. Laitman: You will see it. The more you are connected to one another, you'll be able to help each other advance.

Student: How does this connection happen? Through times and places?

M. Laitman: It's not a matter of your mind, ma'am. It's best that you sit, listen, rather than asking such questions in the air.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:08:05) I chose Rav Laitman to be my Rav. With the Rabash who taught him and Baal Salaam, that's a mental, thoughtful decision I made. But I'm looking at people who are very close to Rav, the friends, and I'm impressed. I'm even envious of how they approach Rav, they sit with him, they go through things with him, and still maintain that distance that creates inspiration and longing and a certain special respect. Because when I approach someone, my impression drops, I take it for granted. How do they do it? How do they maintain such a reverence, as if it's the Creator, as if it's something so out of reach? I want to know how to do it.

M. Laitman: They're thinking about themselves and giving themselves the possibility to come close only to the extent in which they acquire fear. That's it.

Student: How do we do it?

M. Laitman: That, ask them.

Reading Excerpt 5: (01:09:42) Baal HaSulam, Letter No. 45 - Twice.

You should believe that your teacher’s bodily matters are truly engagements of the soul. This is why our sages said, “It did not say, ‘learned,’ but ‘poured,’ implying that serving is greater than learning.”

A student should be in true annulment before the teacher, in the full sense of the word, for then he unites with him and he can perform salvations in his favor. A student cannot adhere to his teacher’s soul, as it is above his attainment.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:13:01) In the article we read, a student should be in true annulment before the teacher in the full sense of the word. What does it mean, full sense of the word?

M. Laitman: I don't think it is something you can explain. But rather, each is impressed by this condition according to the extent in which one nullifies himself. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:14:18) Over here it says that the teacher's bodily matters are truly engagements of the soul. Can you give us examples of what this means? Is it like your health or things like that?

Reader: It is written in excerpt number 5. We said you should believe that your teacher’s bodily matters are truly engagements of the soul. So our friend is asking about your teacher's bodily matters. Can you give an example, what we're talking about? Is it for example to care about Rav's health? What are your teacher's bodily matters?

M. Laitman: Also the health, also everything that has to do with his teacher. A student needs to be in care for. Because that's the difference between them. That which belongs to the soul on a higher degree is as like it belongs to the body on a lower degree.

Student: Okay, one more question. So for example it says here that a student cannot adhere to his teacher's soul as it is from as it is above his attainment. So for example, I mean the Rav is not getting younger and we see the Rav is not as strong as he was Ten years ago and so on. So what's the correct way to relate to seeing the Rav in this state and still being able to follow in his footsteps every day?

M. Laitman: Try and observe that which Rav recommends to do, as by that a student will connect to the Creator and reach his correct and true state.

Student: So, how do we correctly restrict the will to receive, and correctly relate in the wrong way to what it's seeing and the influence of the surrounding lights that we tend to you know get from everything around us?

M. Laitman: We need to not use our will to receive but rather only the desire to bestow. That's it. I don't see in this anything, I see no room here for scrutinies or arguments. It's simply not, there's no room for it, it's not a given. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:18:36) There is a friend in my Ten that very often says that Rav is found in the center of the Ten. And as much as we are trying to keep the center of the Ten between us in our connection that much we are closer to the Rav. This is true?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Is this the effort to keep the center of the Ten in order to to be closer to the Rav?

M. Laitman: Yes. The Rav feels the results.

Student: So is this a way to serve the Rav, also?

M. Laitman: You can say that, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:20:49) How can the entire Ten come closer to adhering to the Rav? What should we do for that in the Ten?

M. Laitman: Learn what Rav says, and observe his will. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:24:33) How can we know if we're serving the right way without learning it first?

M. Laitman: But you can depict to yourselves what my desire is. For you to learn our books, and observe the actions and the groups, and all that we do in order to attain spiritual degrees. That's it. Meaning, altogether, my desire is precisely adapted to your desire, if you want to reach the spiritual degree. Okay? Wonderful.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:23:30) The feeling of someone else's pain is a very huge feeling. How do we also heal the pain of the friend?

M. Laitman: By an embrace. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:24:11) I never in my life had a Rav. I had emptiness, I had parents, but I didn't have a Rav. And there was a moment in which I felt that you are my Rav. And I told myself, I simply decided that you are my Rav. And this felt like a new spiritual degree. I have a much higher connection, very intimate, also this intimacy with the Creator. What sort of process is this when we choose Rav? What influence does it have when we decide and we choose the Rav?

M. Laitman: It's some science and then they select a teacher, choose a teacher for themselves and they draw closer to him, they ask him questions, they listen to him and this is how they draw closer. This is how the whole system of learning is structured everywhere.

Student: Is it truly a higher degree when I don't have just a teacher but I have a Rav?

M. Laitman: Yes, because we're learning a very specific, very special subject. Because we need to learn from a person whom we call Teacher. We also call him the guide - he who shows the path. And then I want to develop according to his path. This is why in addition to regular study, there are additional conditions.

Student: For me, I felt as if this was the most important decision of my life, to decide for my Rav that this is my path.

M. Laitman: Everything will come in its due time.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:28:11) Because we don't have the possibility to nullify directly towards the Rav, but rather through the Ten, is it possible to say as if the Ten is the Rav?

M. Laitman: Yes. In relation to the Ten, you can make the same actions as you do to the Rav.

Student: And what is the Rav?

M. Laitman: Rav, he can be someone you can't even feel.

Student: So then I need to serve the friends like the Rav?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:29:12) Could it be that through the Ten, if we pray through the Ten and we include the Rav into our connection, then we can feel him not just as a Rav, but also as a friend?

M. Laitman: You can.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:29:42) Is Rav a spiritual connector to the upper world? Because I'm worried when you're not here. My greatest worry is, what will Bnei Baruch be when you're not here, if we are relying on Rav as a physical body with us?

M. Laitman: What will happen? Don't worry. The body, the material body, is not going to be any barrier between us. The material body is not going to be an impediment between us.

Student: Okay, it's good for us to know. The other question I had was what we read before. The order we were given is to love the friends with all our might, with all ourselves. And we should experience the pain as if the pain is our pain. The pain that the Kabbalist talks about, it sounds to me like a spiritual pain, because it's as though the inability to connect is already a pain by itself, and it causes suffering. And that has to be felt by us, rather than judge the friend, but to pray for the friend, because it's like the biggest block to even what you teach. And is that the pain that we have to get to this point where we feel it, and raise that prayer for the friend, rather than judge the friends?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Ultimately, when the friends are given the power to bestow and rise above the ego, that joy that the Kabbalist talks about, is the point where we have to give gratitude for what the Kabbalists have done for us. Is that the joy that the Kabbalist talks about?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:33:02) It's written in excerpt 5, the last sentence. A student cannot adhere to his teacher's soul as it is above his attainment. What does it mean that it's impossible to be adhered?

M. Laitman: It's impossible.

Student: Can you sharpen it a bit, maybe?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: What does it mean that it's above his attainment?

M. Laitman: Because his soul, his Rav's soul, is higher than what the student can attain.

Student: So it's as if we cannot adhere to the Rav's soul?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: And we're seemingly learning now that what's upon us to do is to be adhered to everything that the teacher is teaching.

M. Laitman: Yes, yes, go ahead, try.

Student: And nonetheless it's impossible?

M. Laitman: Virtually impossible.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:34:24) It's hard to feel the friend because there's a certain filter that goes through our ego. Can we, from a neutral place, feel the sorrow of the friend and also her joy? How can we identify with this, if it's even possible?

M. Laitman: It's possible to feel your friend if we truly ask the Creator and simply give our whole soul to attach, to adhere to the friend.

Student: A long time ago, when I started to learn the wisdom of Kabbalah, I heard that it's possible to love the teacher, the Rav, even more than one's father. And I thought, no, it's impossible, because I was very close to my father. Now I understand that it is possible. As usual, you are right, because you gave us and you do give us spiritual life. How important, then, is it to continue or to adhere to our teacher, to Rav, and to continue his words? How does it strengthen our Ten?

M. Laitman: For many years, I feel your heart and the extent to which you're always trying to draw closer and closer to my heart. And this gives me a great feeling. Thank you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:37:44) Rav said previously, one second, you said that, you were asked, do you feel our efforts to come closer to the center of the Ten, and you said that you feel the results, you feel our results.

M. Laitman: Because you can have many efforts, but the result of those efforts.

Student: I'm looking now at the convention, because it's an important part, and we're prepared for it in the moment that we're gathered here. What is the result that you feel from this right now?

M. Laitman: I feel that this congress is bringing us, leading us to unity, and in the direction towards an ascension that the kind of which I did not anticipate, I just did not anticipate it. We have recently, in recent times, received a big, great burdening of the heart, and despite that, we truly want to rise above this burdening, this hardening of the heart, and to adhere to the spiritual. I am very happy that we are not agreeing with the state of descent, just the opposite. We want to strengthen one another, and to rise. Thank you, all of you.

Student: My question is, what additional efforts can we add in order to amplify the connection of the ascent more and more? What else?

M. Laitman: Look. This is something that each and every one must feel. Where else, where is that space where he can add? And to take care of himself in that space, so that to fulfill what he is still missing.

Student: On the side of the friends, it's really felt this huge demand. What else can we do to really use this day? Even internally.

M. Laitman: Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about external actions, even though you're doing that as well. I think that we have half of this lesson still, and then the next lesson, and between the lessons, and in the end we have another. We have another event that will unify us, unity, activity. We still have time and the opportunity to overcome, to grow closer, and to achieve success.

Student: What result should we reach?

M. Laitman: To feel that we are in one heart. That's it. We don't need anything beyond that. This truly can be our greatest success.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:41:54) I want to continue. We learn that in order for the lower ones to rise to the upper one, the upper one needs to raise him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: You as a Rav, as our upper one, what do you need from us so that this ascent will happen?

M. Laitman: Only unity. Only the unity between you and your aspiration to rise together.

Student: And what more can be considered this connection that will raise us?

M. Laitman: What else? Only the unity. Only the unity for each and every one to grab onto his friend and to desire to rise together with him.

Student: If you're looking now at the whole world group, where would you have wanted them to be at the end of the congress?

M. Laitman: I never set any specific goals for myself in a clear way. But what I do set for myself is the possibility to annul and the result of this will be whatever comes down from above.

Student: So how can we amplify our ability to nullify, that we'll be able to nullify even more?

M. Laitman: Only the unity between you - unity between you and between all of the Tens, all of the parts of the Tens that are wherever they are in their own countries. We need to unite everyone in one heart.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:44:49) Rav said that the school of students know how to keep a distance. And I wanted to ask, if the Rabash brought the Rav closer, is the guarding of this space, who does it depend on? On the Rav or the student?

M. Laitman: You need to discover this for yourself. It is a very good question, the correct question, but the answer is that you need to give the answer yourself.

Student: The Rav also said the Ten could be as the Rav. In that sense, can we keep the distance or not yet?

M. Laitman: We cannot do this yet, cannot accomplish it yet. The Ten cannot yet be in the place of Rav. But in the future, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:46:15) Each one of us here wants to express gratitude to you in one way or another for the path that is not below reason but above reason, the way that you are leading us. How can we use the suffering of this inability of this close connection and this gratitude for your love? When we are uniting between the friends, we imagine that we are hugging them and raising them to the Creator. This entire Hisaron, deficiency of love, can we express it in the way that we will unite around you and we'll pull ourselves after you and that is sent to the Creator?

M. Laitman: I don't know. Try. I can't say that, no, you should not. That would be incorrect. On the other hand, I don't want to pull you towards me, to me. Keep trying. You will find the right solution.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:47:50) Regarding the gratitude, of course, we all hear Rav differently. But as we understand that the Ten, we nonetheless collect these opinions, whether they're opposing or they go in line with it, it doesn't matter because we're aspiring to what's being revealed and it's probably correct to see that whatever is being revealed between us is how we reveal Rav between us. And the question is: The scrutiny and the workshops before the lessons, when we're reading the source materials and so forth, that's seemingly not enough. We need something, some work with the Ten after that. As if there needs to be these constant aspirations to find the Rav between us, is that correct?

M. Laitman: Probably.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:49:12) I have a question about the friend's sorrow. I understood that this is a vessel for connection. But a friend has a sorrow in his egoistic life, and then he has a sorrow in the direction of connection and the Creator. Question: How do we work with a friend's sorrow? Because it seems to me that it's very important from the point of view of the prayer.

M. Laitman: Try and connect with him, and thus, you will share in his suffering for him to not feel so bad.

Student: Is that a prayer I need to ask from the Creator?

M. Laitman: Yes, it's a prayer and an action.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:50:17) I wanted to ask about spiritual or sensitivity. Yesterday I heard from my friends that during the congress, certain friends, they cry, that this is the light filling them up, overfilling them. Is there space for this?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:50:58) How do we build a connection in my point in the heart? And do I need to ask from the Ten for them to build this connection? And in general, what is the form of this connection? Where exactly does it happen? What is it?

M. Laitman: You will reveal this for yourself soon.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:51:58) How can we open up the heart in such a way that even if we are in huge distances between us, and there are no friends next to us, nonetheless, but for us to feel them and open up the heart in this connection?

M. Laitman: Well, it all depends on our sensations. That's why it doesn't matter where we are physically. But it depends only on our desire to be together, to be incorporated into one another.

Student: Sometimes it's felt, this work, and to feel together that it's above reason. And they also want to know, how can we use this above reason in order to come closer to one another?

M. Laitman: Above reason, for now, for us, it can be against desire, against our decisions. And then we will be able to understand it better.

Student: What does it mean, the decisions?

M. Laitman: Against our desires. When we would have liked to think to shape ourselves in such a way, but we are going to do the exact opposite.

Student: It's a question that comes up often, about the actions that we need to do. What does it mean to do an opposite action?

M. Laitman: I don't know. Give me an example, and I'll tell you how it would be the opposite. I don't think that's a problem.

Student: In the meantime, a lot of actions that we do is to send little tastes of the lessons. It's the things that we want to do. And sometimes things awaken in us of things we want to do, and we need to do the opposite from that. And what does it mean that it’s the opposite, and what do we do there?

M. Laitman: That will come with time. It will come.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:55:53) How can we improve through.. What is the difference between idol worship and adhering to Rav? Where is the border between them?

M. Laitman: The work in idol worshipping is what we need to shape and to cancel. Meaning the work of what Rav says. This is what we need to study and carry out to make all the right actions.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:57:14) On one hand, we need to open up the heart gradually in order not to hate one another. It's like entering into the left line in order to connect it with the next side, on the right side. And on the other hand, is the action of opening the heart, is it a certain stage in the recognition of evil? Or is the opening of the heart the next step right after that? What is the result of the opening of the heart?

M. Laitman: I cannot give you an answer to this question. It is completely outside the bounds of our study. These are the details of connection. You need to be less smart. And then you're going to achieve more of the correct actions. Work more on your ego.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:58:33) In order to feel the friend. Do the two of us need to open our hearts?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Does the opening of the heart always go through pain?

M. Laitman: More or less through efforts.

Student: Can I feel just my own pain within the friend?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: Just what's close to me?

M. Laitman: No. It can be different.

Student: Last question: If the friend has a certain pain which I don't recognize, what are my actions?

M. Laitman: To search.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:59:28) It's written that you need to love the friends and be together with them in joy and in pain. It's like family relations, but these are physical things. It turns out we have these optimal conditions, but Kabbalah itself is not a simple method. And Baal HaSulam, and all these articles are for the time when people used to do these things physically nonetheless, and most of our, whereas for us, most of the Tens are virtual. It's hard for us to build this connection from a distance, or is it even simpler?

M. Laitman: This is simply the more suitable method for our time. That's it.

Student: We're like these pioneers without any experience.

M. Laitman: Each new generation is such, each generation.

Student: I want to clarify. People used to live in caves, and now in our times, until our times, they used to see each other, and now just very few Tens can have such a connection. How can I love someone if I've never seen them physically, and maybe I never will see them physically? Maybe I understand them, their situation, but I cannot incorporate into them. Although there could be something terrible that's happening to them, or some joys that they're experiencing. What do we do?

M. Laitman: Nothing. The life will demand the understanding, the changes, in everyone.

Student: So, without physical contact, we'll learn how to, right away, feel it virtually?

M. Laitman: I don't know.

Student: Maybe nothing will work out.

M. Laitman: I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear. Don't you understand? It's better for you to sit and think.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:02:15) How can we know if this feeling of love to the friends is true, or if it's stemming from my confusion?

M. Laitman: Continue getting closer, connecting with the friends, and then you'll see from there. The most important thing is to always be aimed towards this.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:03:05) Baal HaSulam said that a student towards the teacher, towards his Rav, needs to be in complete nullification. And how can we help one another, to push one another towards this nullification, towards the Rav? And in general, how can the Women's Kli help the Men's Kli to reach this nullification towards Rav?

M. Laitman: Simply continue. And gradually, bit by bit, everything will fall into place. It will become clear. In the nearest future.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:04:30) First question: How can we circumvent this desire to feel a certain security from Rav?

M. Laitman: Unite more.

Student: Second question: How do we succeed in seeing this greater picture of connection? Or do we demand it, this greater picture of connection?

M. Laitman: You can demand, but you don't even know what it is.

Student: That's it. So how do we reach it? How do we jump there?

M. Laitman: A prayer to the Creator for Him to do it, for Him to show you the form of the next unity, the next degree of unity.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:06:24) The congress is truly blowing up the mind and the heart, but nonetheless, I have a desire to scrutinize something. In one of the parts, you said that Baal HaSulam is the only person who really sat at the Creator's table. And the great sages are revealing their wisdom, like it's written, and it's spilling all this out upon us, this Torah. And we, in the work, in the Ten, according to the method of Rabash, and we're truly going fully after Rav, yet we cannot get closer to his soul, as it's written. I have a certain, maybe audacious thought, that maybe not in this body, but at a certain point, we, too, will be able to sit at the Creator's table. Is that correct, or is that too audacious?

M. Laitman: The question is correct, and you try to answer it correctly. Do you want to answer it?

Student: No, I don't want to steal from you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:08:15) We see you as our Rav. What is your request from us, so that you see us as your students? That's the question.

M. Laitman: I ask you of one thing only. Hold onto each other, and all of you together hold onto the Creator. And this will lead you to complete salvation and redemption from all of the evils of this world, and the attainment of the highest degrees of the spiritual world.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:09:42) The true nullification towards the Rav is depicted in this excerpt. Can we translate it to the modern world, and where there is equality and individuality? What do we learn from this about the role of the teacher, about the spiritual leader, and towards the contemporary society?

M. Laitman: To learn what is written, learn what is being taught with the help of discussions and lessons, to learn it, study it.

Student: What does it give us in this contemporary world, everything we're learning now towards the Rav, in the modern world?

M. Laitman: You are studying what you can do to be more connected, to be more adhered to the Rav, and through the Rav to be more adhered, more connected to the Creator.

Student: And we're as if passing this to the whole world?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: About our role?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:11:20) It's really felt that we made this huge preparation for the congress, and a really different one, and a completely different vessel, a very ripe one is here now. And yesterday in the evening with the music, it was really felt when we sang these songs, these amazing ones. And it's felt that there's this huge force, and all that we need to do is simply leave the questions and just to connect between us, even if we don't know how, and to allow that force to take us.

So I truly have this request that we will truly try to use this special moment that we worked on, and simply leave everything and connect in the heart, and to allow this force to take us. Here it's really felt. We have lessons, we ask questions, but let's be in this connection and take it. It's so strong that all that's left, really, just one more step and we're there. So I'm really asking of everyone to simply open up the heart and to be there. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:13:09) A few days before the congress, I truly received the burdening of the heart. And I just felt the ego, and the friends truly held me and brought me to the congress. And everything inverted here. And I truly feel that I owe them. How can I repay them? Through what?

M. Laitman: This depends on to the degree to which you understand what they need. That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:14:30) A person needs to regret together with a friend's sorrow. I wanted to ask about a person who feels the sorrow. What is his role towards the friends? They are trying to come be in your sorrow and to make you happy, but what is your role?

M. Laitman: It depends.

Student: You can’t have one specific answer to this question?

M. Laitman: It depends on each person in his own way.

Student: I can ask about myself?

M. Laitman: No.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:15:35) Baal HaSulam writes, what I wanted to ask, we're in a common, spiritual action. Doesn’t matter where we're sitting, either here right in front of Rav, or there in the corner, or in that corner, or here on the left, or on the right. Everyone needs to close their mouth and open their heart.

Reading Excerpt 6: (02:16:04) Baal HaSulam, Letter No. 43 - Twice.

You can say the words of our sages about the verse, “Leave Me and keep My law”—“I wish they would leave Me” means that they were proud of the exaltedness. And although “he and I cannot dwell in the same place,” still, “Keep My law,” be attached to a genuine righteous with proper faith in the sages. Then there is hope that the righteous will reform them and will sentence them to the side of merit as is appropriate for the presence of the Creator. What could come out of their humbleness and lowliness so the Creator does not move His abode from them, if they have no genuine righteous [person] to guide them in His law and prayer, and lead them to a place of Torah and wisdom?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:19:24) How can we work with the sources and advance in love of friends in our Ten?

M. Laitman: We have studied this many times already, how to annul before the friends, how to connect with them. That's it.

Reading Excerpt 7: (02:20:20) Zohar for All, Yitro [Jethro],"You Shall Not Make for Yourself", Item 428

One should be so careful with words of Torah, and one should be so careful not to err in them and utter a word of Torah that he does not know, and which he did not receive from his teacher. Anyone who says words of Torah that he does not know or did not receive from his teacher, it is written about him, “You shall not make for yourself an idol or any likeness.”

Reading Excerpt 8: (02:21:15) RABASH, Article No. 1 (1990), "What Does 'May We Be the Head and Not the Tail' Mean in the Work?"

All the work of the created beings, that they must work above reason. It is impossible to do anything without faith in the sages, who arranged for us the order of the work. Once a person has accepted his work as “a tail to the lions,” he follows the sages, to walk only as they had arranged for us.

This is as our sages said (Avot, Chapter 1:4), “Be dusted by the dust of their feet (of the sages).”

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:22:28) What is the difference between a wise one and a righteous one?

M. Laitman: In the wisdom of Kabbalah, there is no difference between them, but it depends how we relate to it. Sometimes it's righteous, sometimes it's sage, sometimes it can be some other status, but in reality it's almost the same thing. It depends on who's speaking, at what time he's saying it, and so on.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:23:37) It's written here. In order not to leave the teacher, leave the Creator we need to get distanced. If they don't have a true righteous, who will lead them?

M. Laitman: I didn't hear what you said.

Student: In the excerpt is written, in order not to leave the Creator.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What does it mean?

M. Laitman: That.

Student: It continues that if they don't have a true righteous, who will lead them in the Torah?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So then we need to search for that righteous one?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: To make him our teacher?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:24:51) Here it was written that the Creator is writing: “Leave Me and keep My law.” What exactly does it mean?

M. Laitman: Leave Me and take my Torah, meaning the method, that ascends a person, elevates a person above his will to receive and makes out of him an angel, the desire to bestow, the will to bestow.

Student: Can we say that the Kabbalist can say it in a form that's also suitable for him when he tells the Creator, leave me, don't do anything for me, but do it for them, for the sake of divinity, for humanity? Does the Kabbalist reach that as well?

M. Laitman: I don't think that this is true. First of all, why can't the Creator do both?

Student: It's clear that he can, but the Kabbalist, you said it, I heard it from you, basically, when you said that the Kabbalist basically gives up on himself. And we read the excerpts now that the Kabbalist is ready to give up on his soul, on his life, for everyone else, for it to be good for everyone.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So does that mean we also need to aspire for that, and to ask the Creator not to do it for our own sake, but to do it for their sake? Of course he could do it for everyone's sake, but my question is, what do we want?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Another thing I wanted to say, the gratitude to the Creator for such a moving congress, it's really felt as an intense congress. Already, 18 years I'm in the congresses, but this congress is really internal, really moving. And there's a huge Women's Kli here as well, maybe even the majority, and there's this feeling, this quiet one, that there is this covenant among the women, they're going up, they're taking it to the end, they're not conceding to the Creator, until the Creator says, you have defeated Me, all of you, both men and women.

And I wanted to thank you, dear Rav, and to wish you good health and long life, and that you'll merit soon to bring us truly to the purpose, to the goal, and that we'll bring you contentment, and you won't have the sorrow of raising children, but you'll have the joy of raising children. We love you very much.

M. Laitman: Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:27:53) Can we love, can I love a friend like I love the Rav?

M. Laitman: I don't know, I don't know how you love me.

Student: I love you very much.

M. Laitman: It's possible.

Student: To the fullest extent. So it can, it's possible, how?

M. Laitman: How? Ask the Creator. You can receive such things only from Him.

Student: So impossible then?

M. Laitman: Why?

Student: All right, I will ask, thank you. I don't feel that this is possible.

M. Laitman: How do you know? It's forbidden to say such. The Creator can do everything.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:29:14) My question is: From the moment I started studying Kabbalah, I cannot find the connection between the spiritual and the material, the corporeal. In the group, in the Ten, there are things that happen that are very pleasant. We support one another. We feel that we have developed as a Ten. But on the outside, you feel a storm. And I ask myself, what is the connection between these things? What can I do in order to influence? How do I even understand? Look at the world that's happening outside.

M. Laitman: You need to read more. Let’s go according to the order.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:30:09) I want to clarify. One second. I feel a problem that I lack the sensation of a deficiency of the Creator or the lack of the Creator's greatness. And there was an article about feeling the joy and suffering of the friends. So if I want to connect to a friend that's feeling pain, that's suffering, and compassion kicks in from me, but as I understand that that's not enough. That is, in addition to compassion and connecting to the friend, should I look for that sensation, her deficiency for the Creator? Should I look for that also?

M. Laitman: I don't know what to answer. You need to continue your search.

Student: I understand.

M. Laitman: That's it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:31:31) The question is: It is natural for a person to naturally add something from himself or herself, to whatever way they perceive it, this or that word. What are the consequences of uttering a word in the Torah that they did not receive from the teacher?

M. Laitman: That's okay.

Student: One more question, then. There is a sensation that this is the last congress. Is this true? Will things be different from now on or what?

M. Laitman: I don't know if you would want to come over again?

Student: We will want to. We will.

M. Laitman: I don't think on the side of our organization there's going to be any problems. So get ready for the next congress.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:33:27) My question is: Do you feel that you are the spiritual leader of the Women's Kli?

M. Laitman: Yes. Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:34:26) A friend had asked earlier, how do we really enter the study more and more? And you said, and your recommendation was, to revisit the lessons together with your Ten. Now, my Ten is very special to me, but, not but, but we are also full time moms, full time workers, and granted we are not limited by the commandments of time. We cannot revisit the concepts and lessons time and time again. What do you recommend us to grow stronger and stronger in our Ten?

M. Laitman: I don't know, I have no clue. Pray to the Creator and hear His answer.

Reader: (02:36:29) Announcements.

Song: (02:56:52)

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