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Daily Lesson (Afternoon) July 9, 2024.

Part 1: Rabash. Record 291. Man and His Role.                                                                      

Hello, we're in a lesson studying from Rabash, article 291, “Man and His Role.” Study materials are found in Sviva Tova and the Arvut systems. You can ask questions live through these sites. 

Reading Article: (00:33) Man and His Role. 

Before we begin to speak of some matter, we must know who is speaking and to whom. In this, we have no doubt that we are called “created beings,” meaning that we are living in a world that was created existence from absence. Baal HaSulam established in great detail in his books that the thing that is innovated existence from absence is only the will to receive within us, for as long as we exist in our world, we want only to acquire possessions of pleasure.

We see that concerning pleasure, there is no difference among people, and everyone wants to have pleasures. From a day-old child to one’s final day, we want only to enjoy.

The only difference is the clothing with which the light of pleasure is dressed in him, since pleasure is something spiritual and cannot be attained or grasped without clothing. In the books of Kabbalah, this is considered that there is no light without a Kli [vessel]. Hence, only in the Kelim [vessels] is it possible to distinguish one from the other. Some can receive pleasure only from a clothing of falsehood but are still unable to receive pleasure from a clothing of truth.

We see this with a baby who is playing with a doll that the boy or the girl made from rags. It is a false child, yet they like it and it gives them pleasure.

Conversely, a real child, meaning if there is a six-month-old baby in the house who is crying, and the mother asks her six-year-old daughter, “Why do you need to play with a false child? Play with the real one, so all three of us will benefit from this,” meaning the mother, who cannot stand the child’s crying, the child, who will enjoy your playing with him, and you will enjoy just as much as when you enjoy playing with a doll.

To this, the girl replies, “This is all very nice, but I find no taste or pleasure in this real child.” Should the mother say to the girl, “But you see that when I have time, I play with the real child and not with the doll,” the girl will answer, “I see that you don’t want to enjoy in this world; this is why you are playing with the real child. I want to enjoy, so I play with the doll.”

That is, one does not understand the other, since she still cannot derive pleasure from something real, but from something false.

In this we should discern between one and the other, meaning only in the clothing. But with regard to pleasure, everyone is the same and where there is no pleasure, one cannot enjoy. When he engages in something that is not enjoyable, this is only if he knows that in return for the labor he will receive pleasure later on.

We must understand where it comes from and what is the reason that we must receive pleasure and cannot live without it. This stems from the thought of creation to do good to His creations, as it is written in the Midrash, an allegory about a king who has a tower filled abundantly, and for this purpose, the desire to want only pleasure has been imprinted in us, like the meal, where if there is no appetite, we say that the meal is not good.

Question (Women MAK): (06:27) Do I understand the article correctly, that in this world the desire to receive as existence from absence needs to be filled with the light from what exists as much as is necessary? And the deficiency of the light is the clothing for that light.

And this is the true creation which connects to the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Yes. Good work for you. 

Question (Petah Tikva 2): (07:14) In this part about the girl that prefers to play with a doll rather than a real child, does this show that the ego of the child is greater than the mother's ego, who says that she cannot accept the crying of the baby because it bothers her desire to rule? 

M. Laitman: Yes, yes.

Question (Women MAK 104): (07:59) How do we work so that all of our actions and feelings will be spiritual? Meaning, how does corporeal pleasure come to be spiritual pleasure? 

M. Laitman: Only if I will think about what to do with that desire that I receive. Let's say I receive some sort of pleasure. Firstly, from whom? And for what purpose? Only in such a manner can I aim it, to focus it on something. Then it will be clear to me what do I do with that pleasure. The thing is not about the pleasure, but how do we use it. That's the thing.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (09:04) In our work in the Ten, what is that doll that we're playing with? 

M. Laitman: We don't have that doll in front of us, or something corporeal. I read an article, or I'm sitting with my friends, and this is how it comes out. How do I depict to myself the connection with them?

Student: And I need to want to take care of that real child, right? 

M. Laitman: Yes, yes.

Student: So, what is the truth here? What is the true game that I'm running away from? 

M. Laitman: I need to come to a state where the attitude towards the Creator, towards the friend, will be as a true pleasure. And now, for now, I don't have it.

Student: Yes, I prefer to play with a doll, to be by myself, and not with a real pleasure with a friend. Nonetheless, according to the development and the age, it's correct to play with a doll. 

M. Laitman: That was given to us for now, to play with a doll, meaning to deal with all sorts of pleasures that there's nothing in them, that are empty, and slowly, nevertheless, we will work in such a way that these pleasures will bring us to the true pleasure, to enjoy the connection with the Creator. 

Student: I need to aspire to play with a real baby, not with a doll.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Turkiye 2): (11:28) What is that fuel that will increase our appetite for the study? 

M. Laitman: This is importance, and we can acquire that importance by study, by society, friends, and by the environment. The main thing is the environment. Therefore, it's very important for us how much we organize our environment, how much we organize our connection to the study, that all of that will bring us importance of the connection with the Creator, so that only for that I'll be aimed. 

Student: How can we create this importance? 

M. Laitman: We are asking the Creator to give us importance in spiritual actions in order to bestow, by praying to Him, by appreciating our spiritual society. That is what we are asking. And slowly we are being given these impressions that elevate us through the degrees of spirituality. 

Question (Petah Tikva 6): (13:23) If a person sees that he's like a child playing with a rag doll, how can he come out of this? 

M. Laitman: He needs to do a calculation. What's in front of him and what gives him pleasure? To do a calculation, from what source of pleasure is he feeling himself, what draws him? How does he do a calculation about his life? Around that are all the questions. 

Question (Petah Tikva 22): (14:28) It's clear that for a child, she has more pleasure to take care of the doll rather than a child. But is she still insisting? 

M. Laitman: That also happens. 

Student: What happens in that case when a person enjoys the lie?

M. Laitman: We need to show him that this is not the truth, that in such an instance, if he lives like that, then he lives in a lie. And he has no connection to real life.

Student: Meaning that he enjoys the lie, and this causes a person to go in the direction of the truth, where he wants to enjoy the truth? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Woman MAK 25): (15:40) Thanks to which efforts and work can we pass from pleasure of false things to the correct true pleasures? 

M. Laitman: Thanks to being connected with the friends and helping each other with the scrutiny of what is the real pleasure that we can receive from the Creator and give to Him. 

Student: Every day, step after step?

M. Laitman: Every moment, every day we can examine ourselves and to turn our direction towards the Creator more sharply, so it will be aimed more sharply towards Him. 

Question (Women MAK 104): (16:49) If a person already refused the vessels of reception, but he has not been filled up and that he can request the true clothing and pleasure from it, it's written that we must enjoy. So, how can we be in the system of creation? 

M. Laitman: The person is obligated to receive pleasure, either from reception or from bestowal. To receive pleasure from this action, from one action which could be reception or the other which could be bestowal, is his life. He cannot just be outside of the desire. He is created within the desire to receive. Therefore, we must carefully examine within us where our desire is aimed, and in what way we can use it. 

Question (Petah Tikva 7): (18:09) He writes that the measure of pleasure is something spiritual. So, if a person is still in the false dressings, false clothings, then our attitude to such pleasures needs to be that it comes from above?

M. Laitman: Yes, because the pleasure that we have is a matter of the upper light, the light that comes out of the Creator. If we want to receive it in a lie, in order to receive, then it shines on us nevertheless, but by that we are moving away from the Creator, and that teaches us that we need to replace our attitude towards the pleasure. 

Student: What should a person define for himself in this case? How does he relate to the pleasure? 

M. Laitman: He needs to stop himself, to stop receiving pleasure, because he's receiving pleasure from a lie, things that are not connected with spirituality, and to think how he is transitioning to pleasures that are from bestowal, which is in spirituality. In such a way, he will transition from an attitude towards corporeal pleasures to spiritual pleasures where he wants to bestow to the Creator.

Student: And the transition from these two types of pleasures is always from one of falsehood to one of truth? 

M. Laitman: I can't say always, but generally speaking, yes. 

Question (Hadera 1): (20:25) Is the pleasure that a person feels a result of his investment in front of his bestowal? Meaning that the more he corrects his form of bestowal to the society, by that he corrects the pleasure he receives? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (German): (21:25) Who or what is the Kli? 

M. Laitman: A Kli, a vessel, is a desire to receive pleasure and enjoyment. 

Student: So, who or what are the Kelim the vessels? 

M. Laitman: Desire.

Student: Why are we not one vessel? 

M. Laitman: That happened at the beginning of creation, that the creation of the universe began. The Creator, when He created the desire to receive, divided it into many parts, because in such a way that they all transitioned from one desire to many private desires, so it's easier to correct them, each one on its own. Therefore, we are not Adam HaRishon, the first man. However, we are many, many sons of Adam, that can correct itself, and then we will connect again to the image of the first Adam, first man, Adam HaRishon.

Question (Women Kyiv): (23:36) We have a certain state, and we do not understand what is happening to us. The states simply pass over us. How should we understand who we are speaking with, which vessel, and how? Or maybe to write it all down? 

M. Laitman: Do you want me to write it all for you? 

Student: No, for us to write it.

M. Laitman: Then you are given a certain problem. You need to write it down. Talk to your friends. Write that problem, and in what manner do you go out to connect between yourself and the Creator? What desires do you include in it? In this dialogue between you and the Creator, what would you like to happen with these desires so that you can feel the Creator in the same manner that you feel yourself? And then everything will succeed. 

Question (Women MAK 51): (24:57) When we start to feel rejection and become ashamed of these false things, is this a gift from the Creator? Is it a result of our efforts and a sign of advancement? 

M. Laitman: It's in essence a result of our bad actions. So, we need to make it so that we would want to receive pleasure, to take pleasure that we can aim to the Creator. 

Student: But if we see that it's a false pleasure, let's say, for example, to enjoy some compliments and so forth, if we feel shame and rejection from it, how should we relate to it? 

M. Laitman: Maybe it's incorrect, maybe it’s incorrect. You need to examine it in relation to the connection with the Creator. 

Student: How do we do that? 

M. Laitman: If I receive a pleasure, alongside it I feel moving away from the Creator, or that I receive a pleasure and at the same time feeling coming closer to the Creator.

Student: If we get distanced by that, then it's false? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Women MAK 30): (26:37) Maybe it's a childish question, but when we learn and we meet with the Ten three times a day, it's all good, and we try to think about each other, which actions we try to do. But there are also such corporeal actions that each one has. Let's say, there's music, and listening to music, is it possible to hear it with the intention to bestow? And to please Him? 

M. Laitman: Undoubtedly, it is possible. 

Question (Hebrew 2): (27:36) When does a person get the ability to concede over all the corporeal pleasures and to devote himself to bestowal? 

M. Laitman: He needs to ask from the Creator. If he truly wants to do it that way, he needs to do it, and at the same spot or the same place where he sees that he's unable to do so, then he needs to ask for help from the Creator.

Question (Women MAK 62): (28:27) For us in the Ten, we receive a certain period that there probably is a difference between the pleasures. We already don't want to play games with a doll, don't want to receive such pleasures. Not such a Ten. How do we reach that state? What do we need to pay attention to now? What should we start with in order to invert all of these pleasures to correct ones? 

M. Laitman: Start with examining yourselves. How do you relate to your time, that each and every moment is given to you from the Creator? What do you do with it? Start from that. 

Question (Women Russia 10): (29:37) Can we say that the commitments we make towards the Ten, towards our connection, this separates us from our ego, as if? 

M. Laitman: From the ego, I don't think we need to say it that way, because it's a great help that the Creator has done. So, we can connect in the Tens and in such a way advance with the help of the friends. 

Student: So, in false pleasures, the most important thing is to connect? 

M. Laitman: Yes. Yes.

Question (Women MAK 56): (30:29) What determines whether we're playing with a doll in the Ten or not? 

M. Laitman: It's that you're engaged not in bestowal from your connection to the Creator, but rather with reception. 

Student: How to replace this doll with a real baby? 

M. Laitman: This is what we're talking about each time. How can we start to be connected with the Creator in the vessel of bestowal? 

Student: How much is it important to come out of these false pleasures? To what extent is it important that this is the true unity in the Ten?

M. Laitman: To what extent is that whole state of connection is important in the Ten? It's very important. How do we reach it? Think about it and aspire to it. Try to be in connection between you and together to form a common vessel.

Question (Women MAK 25): (32:08) Do we need to satisfy the corporeal desires of the friends in the Ten or just the spiritual ones? 

M. Laitman: In general, if I am relating to the friends out of my quality of bestowal and I want to give to them, then any of their desires, for me, it turns into this possibility as a means to bestow. That's what I want to say here.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:51) What is it in the relation to the Creator or to the friends that is counted as a truer pleasure? What is there in the relation to the friend or to the Creator which is counted as a more real pleasure than one pleasure that is for myself? 

M. Laitman: That you fulfill their desires.

Student: And why is it so accredited? 

M. Laitman: That you do it in order to bestow to them. 

Student: And why does a pleasure for myself equal a lie? 

M. Laitman: Because that pleasure doesn't go together with the direction of creation. 

Student: Why is it a lie and not true, because at the moment it's the truth in my reality?

M. Laitman: But that's not a true pleasure. 

Student: How in such a state, a state of lie, can I enjoy something that is true? That's my development stage. I'm like a child who's playing with a doll. I cannot enjoy a real baby in my state. 

M. Laitman: But your teacher is telling you that you can transition to real pleasures. 

Student: Meaning the mother is asking to play with the real baby and the child wants to play with the doll. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Is she able to play with the real baby, and can she receive any pleasures from it? 

M. Laitman: Relatively, relatively, meaning that she needs to understand that the pleasure that she receives from the doll, that there's a little bit of true pleasure. 

Student: And in that real pleasure, there is always a more truthful pleasure, correct? 

M. Laitman: Yes, but that's in connection with the Creator, that she'll start to feel that by that she helps the mom. That this projects to her mom's pleasure, the pleasure of a real, adult woman. 

Student:  If I enjoy flights, connection with friends on a daily basis, is that not counted like a true pleasure? Are all our pleasures false? Are we always in false pleasures? 

M. Laitman: Besides the pleasures that we direct to the Creator Himself, all the rest of the pleasures are almost all false. It could be in a certain percentage, yes, and a certain percentage, no.

Student: And if they're false, I need to stop them, or I need to continue and to direct them correctly? 

M. Laitman: You don't have to hold onto them, but rather to throw them aside and to continue with the truer pleasures.

Question (Women Kavkaz 1): (36:42) Let's say I do it. I ask the Creator to give me the option to receive pleasure and to enjoy what He gives me. And this doll which is giving me a clothing of something corporeal and a feeling for the other, so how to return it to the Creator? Is it enough to understand that returning the pleasure back is enough? 

M. Laitman: If you act correctly towards the feeling that He is creating in you, awakening in you, then it's enough.

Student: So nevertheless, to love the doll or not? 

M. Laitman: The doll, not to love it. But to accept the doll as a means in order to be connected with the Creator. In the meantime, I need to play with it, because without it I simply cannot live like a little child. But nevertheless, I'm always trying to please people and not dolls. 

Student: So, that's my question. In my feeling, that doll that we have is as if it is the relationship between us, and through these relationships, we start to be in a true connection and enjoy the Creator. Can we still enjoy the fact that we love each other, or there is no such goal? It's just a meaning to reach the love of the Creator, or there is something like that, that in the light of love to the Creator, we need to also love each other, to open it.

M. Laitman: We'll be able to love each other only in the case when I'll be able to see in my friend the dressing of the Creator. In that way we reach love. We'll talk about it later on, in what way in our world we suddenly will feel this attraction to each other, and what do we need to do with that? That's still ahead of us.

Question (Women Polish): (40:00) Does the Creator enjoy if I, on a daily basis, try to bestow to one or two friends from the Ten, or do I need to relate that way to all the Ten? 

M. Laitman: The Creator enjoys in any case. 

Question (Women Kyiv): (40:40) You said that if we are unable to transition from a false pleasure to truth, then we need to throw it away, and if we feel that we are unable to do so, in what stage do we need to throw it away? When something shines from afar as surrounding light, or when we start to feel that we are beginning to enjoy? 

M. Laitman: That depends on how you calculate it. You're talking about such states, the intermediate states that I can't talk about. 

Student: And these intermediate states need to be? 

M. Laitman: Yes, yes.

Question (Kyiv): (41:32) If I see that the friend is playing with dolls, how am I meant to react to it? Let's say I see that the friend is enjoying false things, and I would like him to transition to real things. Can we influence him? What do we do with it? 

M. Laitman: That's his personal question. Does he want to be closer to the Creator through such a relation of what he receives from the Creator?

Student: On the one hand, according to his words, he says that he wants to, and I feel that he's ready, but somewhere along the way, there's confusion happening, and there's a desire to help him. That the Creator will enjoy higher pleasures.

M. Laitman: Yes, I understand you. This is a lengthy work with a person. When you connect him to the group and he gradually, under the influence of the group, starts to get corrected. 

Student: We are studying from this article that it's like a child’s behavior, and in other places we read and hear that this is a heavy, grotesque soul. Is there a connection between the things? Is it the same thing? 

M. Laitman: Yes, we have such examples. 

Student: Of course, I feel it in my uncorrected egoistic vessels, the way I see the friend. but nevertheless, if I see it that way. Can I relate to it as if I feel his desire, and that's what I should be praying for in order to reach the correction? 

M. Laitman: No, that's not yet complete. 

Student: If I wanted to be corrected, then my desire, my point of view, that's what will be corrected in order to elevate the friend in my eyes? 

M. Laitman: Try to pray for him. 

Question (Women MAK 88): (44:16) What pleasures exist without clothing? Can a created being give a friend pleasure without clothing? 

M. Laitman: From where? Where will you get that from? Your self will not have something like that without any dressing, any pleasure without dressing. 

Student: How in the Ten can we give each other pleasures? 

M. Laitman: In the Ten we give them pleasures that are dressed in our correct attitude to the friends.

Question (Women Moscow 6): (45:09) Can we do a correct discernment in the Ten if we connect the Creator between us? For example, we connect in order to reveal the Creator, or we connect in order for us to have strength? Can we do it correctly in the Ten? 

M. Laitman: Do it, do it. Connect together in the Ten and work in that way. 

Question (Women Turkiye 7): (45:51) What does the false pleasure prepare me for? Why do I need to experience it? 

M. Laitman: In general, we receive the false pleasure in order to see, first of all, if it's true or false. If we see that it's a false pleasure, then we must distance from it. And replace it with true pleasure. That's all.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:43) How do I know if this pleasure is false or true? 

M. Laitman: Where is it drawing me to? What do I need to do in order to come closer, or the opposite, to distance from it? 

Question (Women Moscow 8): (47:14) Is it possible to say that if a person experiences suffering, then he is further away from the Creator, or one does not relate to the other? 

M. Laitman: If a person feels suffering, of course, he is distanced from the Creator.

Question (Women Hebrew 2): (47:41) Now that we're in the lesson, there are all sorts of things that we can enjoy from all the questions that the friends are asking, being with you together. How do we transition that pleasure we receive from the lesson to a true pleasure? 

M. Laitman: What is true pleasure? 

Student: It seems to me that this is our work, to constantly look for the bestowal, our contact with the connection with everyone. 

M. Laitman: True pleasure is the light.

Student: How can we feel the light? 

M. Laitman: According to the equivalence of form with it, meaning that to the extent that I do the same actions as the light. 

Student: So, now that we're sitting together in the lesson, we need to make efforts to be like the light towards each other, and that will give us the true pleasure? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (48:52) The pleasure relates to the actions that I do? 

M. Laitman: It could be that it's not so. Do you feel it? 

Student: I feel the pleasure. For example, I eat. You say to examine if your pleasure is true or false. Am I drawn from this action to give contentment, or am I just fulfilling myself? The question is: Can I turn every action that I do into a true pleasure or not? 

M. Laitman: Examine. If you're enjoying from the pleasure or from the purpose of the pleasure. 

Student: What is the difference between the pleasure and the purpose of the pleasure? 

M. Laitman: I receive a pleasure that comes from the Creator, or I receive a pleasure that comes from a different source. 

Student: And then, do I need to stop the action if it's coming from a different source, just move away from it, or to work on myself and find pleasure in it? 

M. Laitman: No, that's too difficult.

Student: Is it alright to enjoy my good salary or do I need to lower my standards as far as money that I'm receiving? 

M. Laitman: There's no commandment to suffer. 

Student: So, it's allowed for me to enjoy pleasure that I receive from, for example, salary. 

M. Laitman: A person must feel good in the Creator's world.

Question (Women Ukraine 2): (51:02) Is there a difference for the Creator when we pass on the light and fulfill others' desires or when we only do it for Bnei Baruch? What is the difference?

M. Laitman: If we fill up the vessels of our friends who are together with us in one vessel, by that we build a ladder, and we rise on the steps of the ladder, closer and closer to the Creator. If we don't do that, then we don't rise.

Student: If we fill the desires of external people, we do not climb this spiritual ladder?

M. Laitman: No, we are somehow forming these conditions, but these conditions are surrounding, they are not aimed at the goal.

Question (Women Moscow 18): (52:54) We are all in a simulation. We are all in one vessel and we are filled with the Creator. How to move away, as it's written in the article, from this simulation and to transition to the reality of the Creator? Is it all of us together or gradually? 

M. Laitman: I think that it will be a gradual process and that it has already started.

Question (Women Spain): (54:08) When there is an argument, is that some sort of suffering, or is it a process in development? When there is suffering is it pain or is it part of the development?

M. Laitman: It's a process of development. 

Question (Kyiv): (54:40) How, when you receive pleasure from the Creator and feel that He is the one who is giving you that pleasure, how do you return it to Him? 

M. Laitman: You don't need to return anything. Always when you are doing something, think that by that you want to please the Creator.

Student: But I want to give Him joy, and I think about it that I want to give Him joy when I receive the pleasure. So, how to give Him joy? 

M. Laitman: Through that which is good in His eyes.

Question (Hadera 1): (55:37) A person who is on the way to attain the Creator, the more he advances towards the goal is it correct to say that the balance between the corporeal desire for the pleasure and the spiritual pleasure, that the point of balance between them is the way between them? Because a person cannot always give a certain definition whether it’s a corporeal or spiritual pleasure, but he can say..?   

Question (Women Azerbaijan): (56:58) When one of us falls to falsehood and suffering, and we pray for him, and when the Creator answers us, then we receive a lot of joy, and we enjoy the fact that he gives us a lot of gifts. Is it a false pleasure, or is it okay, or do we need to stop ourselves somehow? 

M. Laitman: That's correct, continue.

Student: And if, let's say, we have some sort of difficulties, do we accept it as a correction of the work in the Ten, or can we ask for help from the Creator?

M. Laitman: Ask the Creator, ask the Creator. 

Question (MAK 24): (57:57) If you already experience joy and pleasure in the form of faith, in a spiritual manner, that you give pleasure to the Creator, can we ask for more pleasures in order to disseminate this bestowal? 

M. Laitman: In the meantime, we don't need to. 

Question (Women PT 10): (58:32) When a mother has two children, one wants that, and the other wants the opposite, then it's hard to give everyone what they want. In the Ten, if a friend has a difficulty, we can all pray and ask to change the situation. When we do dissemination to desires that are opposite, how do we pass on the light of the Creator? Do we ask through the Ten, or do we ask directly from the Creator? 

M. Laitman: It doesn't matter. Directly from the Creator or from the group, it doesn't matter. The main thing is to ask. 

Question (Women MAK 19): (59:23) Is it correct to understand that to be a conduit in this world is that degree of the development of a person, of Adam? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Women Piter): (59:44) How can I know to what extent the Creator is enjoying whilst I'm playing with the doll, even though I'm trying to transition to the real pleasure, but still cannot? 

M. Laitman: [No translation]

Question (Women MAK 56): (1:00:09) Do we have a desire for true pleasure?

M. Laitman: Of course.

Student: And was it in us?

M. Laitman: Between us and the Creator. 

Student: Can we also say that it is being freed from the angel of death?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

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