Part 3
Morning Lesson October 22, 2021, Transcription
Reading Shamati 31, Baal HaSulam - Anyone Who Pleases the Spirit of the People
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1. Rav reading. “Anyone who pleases the spirit of the people. He asked, “But we have found that the greatest and most renowned…” The great Kabbalists.
Rav reading: “...were in disagreement…” They didn’t agree with one another; they were really in some disagreement with one another. That is how it is with the words of wisdom, we always have different opinions.
Rav reading. “Thus, the spirit of the people is not pleased with him.” Meaning they cannot rise to a state where they agreed.
Rav reading. “He answered that they did not say “all the people,” but “the spirit of the people.” This means that only the bodies are disputed, meaning that each one is working with the will to receive.” The spirit of the people, not the bodies but the spirit.
Rav reading. “However, “the spirit of the people” is already spirituality, and “pleases”—that the righteous who extends the abundance, extends for the whole generation…” He’s not thinking about himself but clothes all the vessels of the generation and extends it for them. He doesn’t turn to the Creator because he needs something, he addresses the Creator only because he wants to transfer the force of correction and fulfilment to everyone. Just like Galgalta ve Eynaim and AHP where the Galgalta ve Eynaim connect to the Keter and receive from it for the AHP. Otherwise, there would be no address because they have already corrected themselves to the extent that they have vessels of bestowal. The vessels of reception are with the AHP and that is how they use it.
Rav reading. “Only because they have not yet clothed their spirit, they cannot attain and feel the abundance that the righteous extended.” The AHP can feel that he is receiving from the righteous only to the extent that he ascribes himself to the righteous. Only in that way. Therefore, the spirit of the people can only be to the extent that one can associate himself with the vessels of bestowal and then to that extent, he receives corrections and fulfilment through the vessels of bestowal.
2. S. (04:48) What does it mean that the bodies are disputed? What is disputed and what is not disputed?
R. The will to receive. The dispute is between the desires to receive without a Masach, without a screen or a covering. There is either indifference with no connection between us or we are in dispute in some form of corporeal connection between us. There cannot be any other way. Let's say you and I live in adjacent apartments in the same building. Certainly, between us there's going to be some kind of a criticism of each one of us on the other. There cannot be any other way. Maybe we'll calm ourselves from time to time but there will always be some form of criticism in our hearts one towards the other. We may forget about it but the desire to receive cannot ever be in a good connection between one another. Not in family, between families, between friends, not in any place. If we want to arrange things between us correctly, we need to awaken, to evoke, the disputes. Meaning to open up what is in the hearts of each and every one. Opening it wisely, delicately, according to the degree that we are in. We gradually correct ourselves one degree at a time and rise to another degree and correct ourselves. We will kill each other if we open up all the disputes between us. We need to gradually take care of this because we won’t simply divorce or distance ourselves from each other but we will simply kill each other. We always have disputes in the bodies and it cannot be that we do not because each and every desire is in a different place in the system of Adam HaRishon. Hence it is certain that it doesn’t belong to one another. The fact that we are suddenly connected between us in groups, in tens, is from above under the upper providence. That is how Rabash explained it to me. We are brought together, to the teacher, to the group, to the ten, and eventually we must strengthen the connection between us. Throughout the process I may suddenly lose friends, receive new friends, lose the Rav and advance without him. All these things are direct providence and I am truly being cared for from above. I need to accept this and to continue in the same direction in connection. We will always reveal the disputes in these connections, that it is inconvenient for us between us, etc., and we will learn how to arrange things by rising from the bodies to the spirit, from bodies to the spirit, from bodies to the spirit.
S. Will these disputes that we have to rise above ever be cancelled?
R. Not until the end of correction because disputes before the end of correction are the wars of the Messiah, when everybody wants to kill each other. That is advancement, what can you do?
S. Sometimes I am happy in my ten and I don't feel disputes with anybody.
R. Either you are purposely entering this state of being afraid to disclose these disputes, to keep a nice, good mood and spirits and not fight or you are not really paying attention to one another and you don't care what is happening to one another as long as you can continue the system of your external framework. That’s the problem.
S. I have criticisms but why do I need to awaken division and cause conflicts?
R. In order to correct the disputes. Look what he writes in the article. He asked about the spirit of the people, and the spirit is above the dispute. Baal HaSulam answered that the most famous righteous are in a dispute. How could the spirit of the people be in good states between one another if they were disagreeing and quarreling with one another?
Rav reading. “He answered that they did not say “all the people,” but “the spirit of the people. However, “the spirit of the people” is already spirituality,” This means that only the bodies are disputed, meaning that each one is working with the will to receive. However, “the spirit of the people” is already spirituality...” In order to bestow.
Rav reading. “and “pleases”—that the righteous who extends the abundance, extends for the whole generation…” He uses the whole dispute that he has as the Aviut of the degree on the level between the desires and states in which they are in disagreement with one another and refines and purifies it by going above it. There is a Reshimo of Aviut and Reshimo of Hitlabshut, of coarseness and clothing. We say that Hitlabshut is clothing, but it is really a refinement. We come to the clothing of the light within the spiritual record, the Reshimo, through the two of them. He divides each of us into a righteous and a wicked, one that is in dispute and one that is above the dispute. We connect to the Creator from all of these things.
S. I am afraid to awaken a dispute in my ten. I can’t take it back if I criticize a friend; it is like letting the dogs out.
R. I agree with you; you see how I relate to everyone. I sometimes yell at someone here, especially. There are a few people that I am close to, that I can open up a little bit and give him a little sting, that I feel that is worth doing on the spot because it is going to be a quick healing.
S. So how do you awaken division?
R. I'm not allowed to evoke disputes, the friend usually will not like it and may display hatred towards me. We need to know how to do it. I now understand that I didn’t always do this in the right way.
S. How do we awaken division correctly?
R. To do it with the proper preparation. We must understand this short article.
Rav reads. “Anyone who pleases the spirit of the people. He asked, “But we have found that the greatest and most renowned were in disagreement…” The great ones, meaning those that are in bestowal, in Lishma, were in disagreement.
Rav reads. “Thus, the spirit of the people is not pleased with him.” The question is why is it written that the spirit of the people is pleased?
Rav reads. “He answered that they did not say “all the people,” but “the spirit of the people.” This means that only the bodies are disputed, meaning that each one is working with the will to receive.” They are connecting more powerfully above the desires to receive and feel themselves in a state of pleasantness and comfort despite the fact that their will to receive is in dispute and they don’t agree with one another. They evoke this dispute on purpose so they will have ‘love covers all crimes.’ You cannot reach love if you do not evoke the crime. The crime is not from you, it is from the system of Adam HaRishon, from the shattering. If we, do it with the right intention, the right approach, then we see that you cannot have a minus without the plus. It cannot be. You have greater love only to the extent that you have a greater dispute. Not evoking the dispute does not increase, intensify, or make us feel the love more. Not in degrees of intellectual or emotional understanding but in a connection with the Creator that includes it all. In Him there's no differentiation between good and evil, it is all good in Him. We only advance to the Creator when we try to connect between the good and the evil. We cannot say ‘only bestowal’ because there is no bestowal without reception. It does not exist in us this way. The force of bestowal alone is the Creator and we do not understand what the force of bestowal alone is. We cannot awaken the negative to come to the positive, it doesn't exist.
S. What is a precondition to awaken division, to open up a wound?
R. First of all, we are certain that we have the tools to understand where we are moving and the importance of the goal. I don't care about all the states that we are going to discover between us. We need to sign an agreement that all that we will open up now in the relationship between us is absolutely only in order to come closer to the Creator in the connection between us and to discover the Creator with intensified clarity. It includes the good and the bad just like in the Partzuf. Just like in the Partzuf where the greater the coarseness, the greater the refinement, and then we will receive a greater light in the Partzuf. If we gradually approach this matter this way and not to start opening up everything, but slowly, slowly we understand that we are playing in a field that the Creator prepared for us and has blessed.
Therefore, there is nothing here that is saying ‘I hate you’ or ‘I love you' or this way or that way. We are going in a manner in which we are discerning and scrutinizing nature. We want to discover nature, which is the Creator, God, whose numerical value is ‘nature.’ Each one opens up, to a certain extent, in a way where he is wise and his eyes are in his head. He sees in advance whether we can remain in this connection with this revelation between us or correct what we He opens between us. This is how we advance. To the extent that each opens more in one's awareness and understanding, he closes the crimes together inside in such a way we don’t remember them as a bad thing. Rather, we rise above them and love covers all crimes more and more, from one degree to another. This is an art and we will learn how to do that and all humanity will have to follow us. It doesn’t matter when it happens, not yet in our generation, but we have to prepare this path for them.
3. S. (20:16) How can we check that someone has the right to awaken the state in the 10 in order to bring scrutiny because we're confused each one towards himself?
R. This is something that you need to agree between yourselves, you need to agree on this between yourselves otherwise I can’t come up with something for you. You have to discuss this and see in what way are we moving forward discovering the good and the bad or more accurately discovering the bad in order to discover the good. Try it once or twice but in a very, very, very cautious manner. There will not be a negative impression and hurting the ego but only to the extent that you can rise above the ego that you can somehow out transcend it in that area, on that layer you can reveal the evil and then you can advance.
You need to start somewhere and then see but be cautious that you will not weaken your connection. That is how we understand each other, feel each other better both in the negative force and the positive force. It needs to be like a sandwich, the negative and the positive above it, love covers all crimes and then the more crimes you discover the more love needs to be discovered. Discover, meaning to achieve forcefully. Otherwise, we're just continuing the shattering between us. Not only are we egoistic but we are going to find more hatred between us. So that is why it is said about the students of Rabbi Shimon that they wanted to kill each other in the beginning of their study and then they worked above the hatred they revealed until they achieved unity and love and that is how they wrote the book of Zohar. They discovered both the bad and the good and that is what they wrote about, it is the rungs of the ladder, that is what the Zohar is about, all the 125 degrees are written there.
4. S. (23:25) In the article that says righteous who extends the abundance for the generation so how can I exit from personal concerns that I have and start concerning for the generation to extend this abundance?
R. You will be incorporated in it, you do not understand in what ways sometimes I start a lesson or how Rabash would get up from the bed. I told you about how he would forcefully lift himself until he would somehow get out of bed and wash himself and then come to study. It was not because he was old, no. I don't think you necessarily wake up in an easier way than him. We need to understand how we awaken towards bestowal, holiness, by gradual actions. First of all, it is physical actions, we come, we drink some coffee then we begin to hear something, a song at first like we do, like what we do. Then bit by bit we start getting in and you do not understand how it is difficult for me to get into the lesson. Sometimes I'm just completely dumb. Just blocked and then gradually we go into connection and in truth, I receive the awakening from you when you all start asking and I receive awakening from you. It wakes me up and you also need to be awakened by the friends, each one from the others.
5. S. (26:00) Until now we feel the division awakens when we go towards connection and we will not never awaken the left line, what changes today, something grew?
R. No. Start awakening you can do that in corporeality the way and talk about it, meaning in small portions. Awakening the dispute and overcoming it, how do we cover it and try to cover it in such a way that we no longer need to feel the dispute and then again, another some other this dispute, a corporeal one. Then we cover it and that is in corporeality. Later we see how we will do it on higher levels, we will have some experience.
6. S. (27:09) How on one way, on the gradual way, on the second way it is very urgent, you shared with your words in the beginning of the lesson, we see that in the winter things can take a gear up so we have a dilemma. How much is it worth it to come into connection, in dissemination can it maybe diminish the arguments between us? Did we have to hasten the times, how should we look at it or should we just go gradually?
R. I cannot answer your questions because it all depends on the conditions that you have. I cannot answer to everyone that will be equal to everyone. I think that you need to think to what extent you reveal the evil that through making efforts afterwards you will be able to cover it with good. Love covers all crimes and measure, if you can, to what extent you had the connection before between you and to what extent now is your level of connection after you discovered the depths of the ego between you and how much you rose above it. All together what intensity of connection did you achieve.
7. S. (29:23) We went through some questions in the 10, got 10 different opinions, that could be opposite from one another and now what it means that we have to rise above the differences. We have to reach one opinion or turn to the Creator the change of something. Meaning after we overcome this, does the previous reason remain or do I get a new one?
R. We have to reach a single desire as much as we can identify that it is a single desire. A single understanding, intention, thought as much as possible. This means that love covers all crimes. In love we are in adhesion, there we do not differentiate between all those differences in mind and heart everything is just immersed in love. But in the dispute before that we open up as much as we can reveal in order to rise above the dispute, we maintain that. Not too much though. It is like we are all living in the world of families. We know that in the family we always maintain a certain level to not get into too big of a dispute in order to keep our life working otherwise we can shatter this whole connection called the family. So slowly, bit by bit by bit we come to scrutinize the good and the bad, the good and bad in each and every state.
8. S. (31:42) I meant that according to the last article that all the lies and arguments contradiction are in the will to receive. I also understand that to 10 has to be like a womb where we only reveal love and bestowal. So why do I see that I when I fall, I do not have Arvut and why if I want to say words of inspiration and nice things to the friends and they disregard and I feel that these friends hate me. They are even indifferent towards it. Why do I see this in the 10 if it is a source of bestowal?
R. You all have not still attained the connection between you and then still you should try to understand that one judges through his own flaws. You do not know the friends' hearts. A friend arrived in the 10, I need to accept him as sent by the Creator. Then I have to relate to him in a very unique way as opposed to any other person off the street that I relate to. I have to see him as a part of my soul not as a body, not his corporeal nature but deep within him there is what we call the point in the heart and with that point I have to unite, connect. It is with each and every friend. The more I feel that I am inclined towards that whether by force or even by desire, then this is how I advance towards the goal.
S. That is exactly what I'm asking if that is the goal we need to connect between the points of the heart, so why do I discover all these things?
R. In order to overcome these things and achieve a truly higher goal. Do you understand? That is why we need it is very good that you feel this. I think you could be very successful. Just accept all these things with an understanding that one who is greater than his friend, his inclination is greater than himself. You do not know what disturbances Kabbalists have to go through in order to really achieve the correction of the higher soul. Don't forget that what you see is what the Creator lets you see, do not relate that to the friends. The world is hidden, it is a concealment. You need to try and work with the picture that the Creator awakens within you.
S. So how in such a state, do I tell myself that I know it is in me, so how do I even start working before the friends, how do I awaken?
R. As if you close your eyes and activate as if you have love towards them. As though you love them and this is what you show them.
S. So how do you awaken the argument?
R. To the extent you can overcome an argument, you awaken one
S. But the dispute is in me?
R. Of course it is in you, but where do you want it, between you, but you feel it is between you and others.
9. S. (40:04) What are the corporeal, material things in the 10 and what are the spiritual things?
R. That is perhaps too difficult for us now. Everything that has to do with the corporeal organization between us that does not directly touch on spirituality we'd call it corporeality let's say. That is how we get organized. Different gatherings and when, how and in what way we study together and do things together, it is all the corporeal forms. Spiritual forms are already about how we have to think about the connection between us, the essence of that connection that is the spiritual.
10. S. (41:38) What is the dispute for the sake of the heavens for the 10?
R. That we cannot discuss that yet there's no such things between us yet.
11. S. (42:00) We had an experience in the 10 that we agreed between us that once a week for half an hour we would scrutinize things that are relevant for us and during the meetings we got to state of hatred but also whoever was there reached the state of a greater connection then you said that we should stop to scrutinize in such a way so have we grown and should we go back to that?
R. Yes. We now have two bit by bit open up the problems between us so that by overcoming the problems we will achieve a more stable and stronger connection.
12. R. (43:00) The lesson is about how we overcome our spirit over the will to receive, we activate the desires of receive between us and we have a dispute and when we want to be in spiritual connection, we achieve connection and the dispute remains below in the connection is above. That is how we need to establish ourselves, that is the topic.
13. S. (43:53) How do we know the 10 is ready to work with the dispute as you mentioned?
R. I can’t say these are things that the 10 has to try to each and every one of the ten has to try and measure it and examine it. How important is spirituality to him as opposed to the corporeality. Before we come to scrutiny and our scrutinies are about discussing the crimes between us. For that we already need some spiritual ascent. That the spiritual goal appears in the connection between us, we need to understand it, feel it and want it. The connection between us the more powerful it is which is measured by the ego that resides in that connection and also in the amplitude of the connections that is above the ego so above that we can open this pandora box of ours and start working with it.
The Creator deliberately created the ego, the evil inclination. I created evil inclination and I created the spice of the Torah for the light in it reforms. We need to slightly open this bad system of relationships between us which is what the Creator created in our ego to begin with. Understand that he created it in us and if I hate someone or complain about someone this is what the Creator awakens in us deliberately. It is not that someone is to blame or I am to blame, it is the Creator, he does it in order for us to overcome that and cover it with love. Then it gives us the possibility to achieve connection between us to the point of love in order to discover him. There is no real truth in any of the hatred, rejection, the scrutinies of criticism between us. There is no meaning to it. It is all in order to build above those degrees of love, connection. If we do not forget that then we will come to correct actions and good results.
14. S. (46:59) What kinds of disputes should we awaken for advancement?
R. I do not know. I do not have an answer to this, especially this question from the women. I do not know. I also do not think that we were scrutinizing the disputes. We are not scrutinizing who is right and who is not, God forbid. We are looking into how we can rise above the dispute until they disappear and become love.
15. S. (47:54) How will we know to what extent we are ready to discover disputes in order to cover them correctly?
R. This is something you need to know. How to gently, subtly, each one open his negative relations to others in order to make room in your ego and you’re in heart to hear and feel that love will cover all crimes, that hatred will not block your eyes and ears. You have to do it with preparation from the group. This caution of the friend and this Arvut already exists between you and somewhat guards you and helps a person to rise above his ego. Otherwise, if he falls down in his ego and hates everyone, and throws everything away, and just slammed the door and walks away.
16. S. (49:20) How to bring up the dispute in the ten correctly?
R. There is no as wise as the experienced. But the goal has to be there first. From the goal, where we have to strengthen the connection between us, that is how we need to open up the dispute.
17. S. (49:47) Is the explanation on awakening a dispute in the ten also right for the women stand?
R. For women it is actually more suitable. Basically, a woman is usually complaining to her husband. Why don’t we talk about our relationship, that we have to improve our relationship. You heard similar things coming from women. So, a lot of women want that, and men typically do not because, what do we want, everything is fine for us. So, women groups can actually set an example here for the men groups.
18. S. (50:45) What are the correct actions on behalf of a person from the moment we reveal the dispute?
R. That he hears what others are saying. He tries to add himself there in a neutral way and see things through the intellect and not the emotions, as it says, ‘’the judge has no more than his eyes can see,’’ not what his ears hear. In this way, we can understand the other and try not to remain as a donkey in my own view, but I also want to transcend and understand our connection through the eyes of the friend. Why? Because by that I increase the connection with them and awaken and strengthen the network of my soul. All in all, we are doing this to build the soul. So, the connection between us, which is essentially the connection between the pieces of the soul, is critically important. That is why we are awaken this work.
19. S. (52:23) You were speaking about needing to prepare humanity. How do we prepare this path you described for humanity?
R. No, for humanity that is later. Let's first do what we have to do. From our connection of the good and bad, then we can influence them as well.
20. S. (52:53) What are the right stages for the ten to take care of the disputes that awaken?
R. Try from light to heavy, but each time open up something. Each time, open something new and guard yourselves that if you start doing that, that it doesn't suddenly turn into a volcanic eruption. Rather, it has to be under guard all the time.
21. S. (53:35) Does a lack of disputes in the ten bring to indifference and death?
R. That is true. It becomes very formal and that group can't be considered alive. A group that is alive is a group that goes through ups and downs just like your breathing cycle or your pulse, anything that is alive goes through these fluctuations and opposite states.
22. S. (54:07) Is the result of the scrutiny in the ten, could it be that someone needs to change? What does it mean to fix a dispute?
R. Correcting the dispute means that I cover it with love so hatred and love then work together, so that between both of them I discover my group in the correct way and the Creator within them.
23. S. (54:40) Is the feeling of a friend, who wants to ascend, to bring up a dispute in the ten, for the ten, is she like sacrificing herself that she know that she's going to be hated?
R. No, it needs to be to the extent that others will understand. It doesn't have to be to such an extent that other friends will not understand her, no. I need to awaken these things only to the extent that we are ready for scrutinies and corrections. That is why we are talking about this today,
24. S. (55:28) Is it right to bring up disputes in a general way about a certain topic, or personally, to a certain friend?
R. We usually do not evoke discussions about a specific friend. Basically, it is about the spirit that has descended on the group, and we do not blame any friend because it is possible that he is the one who awakens the state. But the truth is that the Creator awakens the state through a certain friend and thus, we relate to it this way. But the truth is, we have to just relate to the seemingly negative or positive awakening that the Creator is generating in us.
25. S. (56:34) Should we awaken the dispute in an external speaking or can I do it inside of me without speaking about it?
R. I do not know what to say. I think we do need to speak, after all. It is true that there are things that pass-through thought. We have to try to translate that to speech.
26. S. (57:29) It seems like, on the one hand, you are very cautious about this topic. On the other hand, it feels from the friends that we need tools, how to deal with disputes in the right way. Can you maybe direct us to one kind of exercise that we all do in this direction? Something we can realize during the day? Maybe just guidelines perhaps?
R. I don’t know. It depends on what you have going on in the ten.
S. So it is specific to the ten, if the ten feels that it has disputes then?
R. Yes. You speak about it and overcome that.
S. If the ten feels that there is actually a tendency for such friend and for some friends do not bring up these things, let's keep everything kind of pleasant and nice. Some people have a pain about things not happening in the ten and want to talk about it.
R. So start speaking about it in small things. Start discussing it and try to bring yourselves to a certain level of mutual understanding. Yes, that is what I think. I do not have anything to add. Let's try, start doing it and then we will see.
27. S. (59:27) To awaken disputes sounds like we are looking for a fight?
R. We have to search for what separates us and disturbs us from revealing the Creator. You call it arguing, I call it an opportunity to close up on the gaps between us in a way that the Creator can reveal Himself as one for all of us.
S. It sometimes happens in our ten that there are explosions, there was a fight between friends. Today and then sometimes people instead of talking about the point, they talk about the person, it becomes personal. How do we watch out from this?
R. I already talked about it. We need to see it not personally, but it is what the Creator awakens between us, that’s it. Think about it very well and do something between you that you will have something to ask about, like all groups. The thing sounds completely un scrutinized.
28. S. (1:00:45) Continuing on the question about what daily task we can do. There was an announcement from info yesterday, following your recommendation a few days ago, that we will choose a day where all the tens make an effort to come in full. So maybe we can send a survey for this today and make an effort on this? This is a big effort for us.
R. There is a survey about it, today? Okay, good. We'll talk about it. Speak about it. When are we going to have the results?
S. The results? Throughout the day we will publish the survey. It will take the friends a day or two to answer and will get enough responses. Then, we will advertise it.
R. Okay. If you do it till tomorrow, tomorrow we can already talk about it. I'm ready.
29. S. (01:01:51) You said that we need to be cautious so that this scrutiny will not turn into a mess. What do you mean?
R. I mean that we need to awaken such disputes between us that we will not separate, that we will start hearing about the disputes, but we will remain in the ten and strengthen the connection between us. Because all of the negative states, in mind and feeling, are all will to receive that is destined only for us to strengthen the will to bestow from zero to hundred percent. That is why the will to receive was created by the Creator, the evil inclination. Because against that evil inclination, we can draw from it, from the Creator, the light that reforms, and with that light we can invert our will to receive, the evil inclination into the good inclination. That is why we need to be with our eyes open, as you know, the way you lead a horse or a donkey. So, you need two reins, either right or left, so he walks in the middle correctly. That is why and how we need to take care of it. We also understand the need for the evil inclination because without it, we will not have the energy, the forces to advance. But how to advance, for that we need the good inclination. We can advance correctly with the evil inclination because our donkey, our matter, our will to receive, will always drag us to the other way.
S. If at the end of the day there are some friends in the ten that want to push out one of the friends, as a result of this scrutiny, do we need to nullify before them?
R. If this is what the ten thinks, you should try to convince them and then see. Maybe in our system there is somebody to turn to and get advice on what to do in such a state. But in the end, what the ten decides and if it stands his ground, then it is final.
30. S. (01:05:06) I don't know if it is the right example or not. Let's say, what happens naturally in these scrutinies in a family and they will certainly succeed because there are also kids. You need to keep the family together. But there's also a lot of time to scrutinize and you have to scrutinize. But with the friends, we do not scrutinize it in full because we do not meet that much, we do not have personal meetings. There's also a danger that we will not be able to fully scrutinize things, it will kind of go, get lost.
R. No. It can’t be that it just remains up in the air like this. Each one for himself, even with a bit of words between you, but each one for himself, you have to chew these things, process them in mind and feeling, and bring them to some kind of a form that will be accepted. Then, again, maybe speak about it in a few days from now, whenever you can. Even ta few words on the phone is enough. If you scrutinize these things, you will understand each other and if not, you ask me in the lesson. It is important things, so I am willing to speak about them.
S. I really need to feel inside of me that I have accepted the point of view of the friend and that I covered all of these states with love?
R. Do not lie to yourself. If you agree with it in heart and soul, it means that you are uniting with the friends and advancing to the state that the Creator can dwell in those connections. If you do not do it, you do not have a place where the Creator can do well. The Creator fills places between love and hate. The hatred is the coarseness of the Partzuf (face), and love is the purity in the Partzuf. Then, in the connection between love and hate there is the record of clothing and record of coarseness, as we say, that is how the Creator clothes.
S. Is it effective that, let's say, there's some friend that is not participating in some state, can he maybe remind those who forgot? For the people who are in dispute, they forgot that it comes from above?
R. It could be.
31. S. (01:08:14) How is it possible to know in advance that a dispute we want to discover, we will be able to overcome it?
R. Again.
S. How can we know in advance that the dispute we are going to reveal, we can overcome it?
R. We can’t know, but for sure we will be able to build upon all crimes love, if we want it. Such crimes are revealed in us, that is for sure that we can build love up on them.
32. S. (01:09:04) For us, once a week, we discuss different topics that are more technical. Many times, we disagree and sometimes we just decide by voting. Is this a correct way to solve disagreements?
R. Yes. We need to check whether we can open a discussion about the lack of agreement between us.
S. But if there is a disagreement, we sometimes don’t come to an agreement, we just vote. Let’s say three are for, three, four, five against. Is this a correct way to solve things?
R. It is away, but it is not a correct summary of the state. You have to scrutinize between you what yes, and what no. If you can’t reach a decision between you, ask.
R. Who can they ask?
Reader: Today we don’t have a specific committee that takes care of it. Do we need to have someone who is taking care of the tens?
R. There has to be like a high court of ours, somebody that they can turn to and help them. We do not want to use that higher court and say that you are right or you are wrong, but to help them to reach the right mutual decision. Usually, we learn that it is by learning that 1. It comes from the Creator. 2. It comes on purpose, because they need to work on it and scrutinize these things. If they scrutinize it correctly, it will be an essential step ahead. Here, we need to use Arvut (mutual guarantee) and everything that we hear from Kabbalists, because these are truly the most beneficial things. That is actually the advancement from state to state, that we awaken the crimes and make love up on it, awaken more crimes and cover it with more love. In this way, from degree to degree, that is how we advance. If we do not do it, we will not advance. We will stand, we will walk in place. Then, we will say, what is going on, why are we not advancing?
33. S. (01:12:00) You said that we need to awaken a dispute only with the right approach. The issue really is that there is nothing to lose, if a person is insulted and walks away, leaves. This is my problem, how do we make a person care so as to not walk away? In a relationship it is not a problem for a couple, there are kids, there is a lot to lose. How do you make it for a person that he feels that there is a lot to lose, if he just walks away?
R. First of all, we need to speak before we start scrutinizing anything, to speak about how our ego is playing with us to the right and to the left, and the Creator through this ego is awakening us and confusing us in all directions. We need to overcome above our ego in order to reach some connection and bestowal. According to that uplifting, we will feel how the Creator is clothing in us and filling the egoistic desires so that we can build altruistic connections above them. That is called that we have coarseness, and above the coarseness we have a restriction, a screen, and reflected light. If we do not build such systems, we will not be able to do anything with ourselves. So, what do we play with? With whoever is stronger, who is more of an egoist, or should we deal with who is stronger, that he subdues before the ten and makes a zero of zeros in front of them? Here, we have to remember all the articles that we read about connection, unity. If we do not go in this path, what else can we do? We have no choice, we're still going on. If not now, then ten years from now, twenty years from now.
S. Do you think that today we are already ready for it?
R. We can awaken these things in us, because we have a very big audience, very diverse, and. it has to start feeling what the true entrance and the spiritual degrees are. In practice, this entrance into the spiritual degree is by awakening the hatred and covering it with love. More hatred, more love, that the evil inclination and the good inclination lead a person to the purpose of creation.
R. Where is it written that the good and the evil inclination?
Reader: There are many articles about that. I will look.
R. Yes, they take you in the hands and they lead you, like the police. Lead you to the purpose of creation on the conditions that you awaken them and want to be between two, only between the two, not in one of them.
S. Basically, it is the most important topic in the wisdom of Kabbalah, really?
R. Right, correct. It is the most practical, there is no more than doing what he wrote here in a few lines.
34. S. (01:16:33) If there is someone in the ten who is most of the time in criticism, and another one who most of the time wants peace. Is that a good thing in the ten, or does it need to change?
R. Good. Put both of them together so that they will manage these things in society, these scrutinies. Interesting what will happen. Don’t be afraid of it.
S. I am the left, I am always scolding them.
R. If they are even giving you a place, what are you jumping up?
S. What, we will continue to just pet each other and caress each other all the time? What will happen, even in 20 years nothing will happen.
R. So if they don’t give you some place, what will be?
S. Seriously, but what do we do? Just caress each other, kiss each other, and then what? That is what I am asking you.
R. You are right. We choose you.
S. We want to advance.
R. Advance, right.
S. Until someone is thrown out.
R. Come on.
S. It is hard work, what can we do?
R. You take this hard work upon yourself, what do you need this for? I am concerned about you, it is not worth it.
S. Remember that I told my wife I am going to put my suitcase and leave. You said that it’s the Creator talking to you. But you see, I had something to lose, the kids, the house, and everything, so I did not run away.
R. So we are turning to you, bring us something. I do not know, put like $100,00 here, it is not a problem for you. Put it in some account, account of the group, right, not Bnei Baruch, not mine, nothing. Put it in some account of the group and if you leave the group, you will say goodbye to $1,000, too. That’s it. Just like you are saying, the kids are stopping you, so here you also need something, that you will feel that by this you are losing your spiritual life and just going. You will have something that will hold you in.
S. It’s true, I need to find a way.
R. So don't forget, bring it.
35. S. (01:19:27) Is the good inclination hiding in the point in the heart? What awakens it?
R. The good inclination is what we need to awaken. Sometimes the Creator does, but it is only at the beginning of the path and it is not good. We need to awaken it by all kinds of forms of connection, that we need to awaken and connect it. Maybe do some kind of meetings between us, even virtual. We need to awaken the good inclination and to find words of awakening that each one brings to the group, and not that we demand these things from one but from everybody, each one.
36. S. (01:20:51) What would you recommend when the disputes with the friends within the 10 or outside the ten. Let's say based on some working together in some committee or something. Some impressions are left from that. Maybe we can hear from other tens and see how to solve that?
R. Everywhere we work in the frameworks of the Bnei Baruch or I don't know what groups you are talking about to bring the same rules that we are speaking about here. Let's say I am in the group with the reporters, so I need to try in that group of reporters, that we will also be in such connections and relationships that we are speaking about here. It is not simple but you can do it. For me it is more difficult because I am usually the manager, the scrutinizer, the bestower. For me it is difficult but between the friends it could be in each and every system in Bnei Baruch. Eventually we need to mix in everybody to such an extent like in my ten I relate to them to every 10 in Bnei Baruch.
S. The question is can we bring that something that we bring to the 10 then we scrutinize it in the ten and grow as a result?
R. That is also possible
37. S. (01:23:04) I understood what it means to awaken the good inclination. But what does it mean to awaken the evil inclination? Can you explain?
R. Only the good inclination and according to that you awaken the bad inclination, good question the evil inclination we do not awaken, for what. We need to only awaken the good inclination. There is no commandment to be evil or egoist. There's just a commandment to correct it.
38. S. (01:23:50) As you said we can awaken this exercise but only in the people in the connection duty?
R. I don't understand your question.
S. We discussed about the exercise that has to do with your wakening the criticism, is it better that across the tens of the world that the people only a connection duty will awaken that?
R. I do not know what you're talking about exactly but maybe not all people from all the thousand people should awaken something during the lesson but only people on duty. I don't know, explain it through the organizers and they will say yes or no.
39. S. (01:24:53) What is the indication that we have corrected the dispute and didn’t just blur it?
R. That you are scrutinizing the connection of love that you want to develop upon the dispute. That is called that you are scrutinizing and building all the details up on it, that love will cover all the details of the dispute.
S. Perhaps it is possible that the dispute remains and we rise above it but on the corporeal level it remains?
R. It remains anyway and we need to feel that we covered it with love and understanding with mutual agreement.
S. If the dispute disappeared, after we connect and the dispute has appeared?
R. It didn't disappear, it wasn't erased just for now you didn't see it. You do not need to keep all the details that there were before. You need to live in the current state just like today we live and feel this day. We do not live all the days that have gone by in our lives. This is how we need to also awaken in our life the disputes.
40. S. (01:26:58) Rabash says then we erase something first we need the greatness of the friends, what we need to improve and then to behave as though we already achieved what we want. Do we need to keep these guidelines?
R. We talked about it that if we are going to go and scrutinize something we need to remind each other about the purpose of creation, that everything came from the Creator and he awakens discussion between us. The question has to be scrutinized and with that question we can come to the answer because our whole path needs to be of questions and answers. Where is that article of questions and then that way, we reach the goal. You are right
41. S. (01:27:58) How to hate in an effective way in our connection in the 10?
R. We hate the ego that separates between us and along with that we understand as much as we cover it with love, this ego is a component of our state. It has the same force and the same state as love. The Creator created one against the other and that is why we need to keep these two things. If we keep them then we are in the middle and we discover in such a way this specifically we discover the Creator.
42. S. (01:28:56) It says in the end of the article that the righteous can receive the abundance for the whole generation and they still can’t achieve the abundance that the righteous does, so when they still didn't achieve the degree and the abundance, so abundance the righteous receives is what awakens the disputes?
R. Not just disputes, it is like the surrounding light that surrounds the students that follow him and even if the righteous one is not with us in the corporeal way, he still organizes in a corporeal way, through him the Creator awakens us. The whole chain of the righteous ones, the upper light cascades and specifically through Baal HaSulam and Rabash and appears inside us and around us. It awakens us from inside, it means that it is awakening the point in the heart and around us is the ten, the state, that it organizes that we can develop and reveal as the source of light.
43. S. (01:30:29) What if as a result of some dispute we were not able to cover it with love can we continue to scrutinize the next time?
R. No. You need to read. to understand, to do all kinds of actions not to cover, not to shut it off, the dispute. Every dispute is given in order for us, above it to grow. That is, it. If we do not grow above it, what we will be left with other disputes, what we are going to start changing everything. We will not have any form of advancement in such a way.