Morning Lesson April 2, 2022, Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Passover - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. (“Who” and “What” Questions #78)
1. Rav’s Introduction: Yes our work the whole work is in order to discover the Creator. The Creator is revealed according to our qualities when the work on ourselves in order to match ourselves to the revelation of the Creator. If the questions that arise are suitable for the revelation of the Creator than we will discover Him. We need deficiencies, we need actions, thoughts and desires that will be congruent all together for the revelation of the Creator. Therefore it is not enough for us to simply get into some place for some period of time to some inner sensation which is called the Creator. Before we reach the revelation of the Creator we need to prepare deficiencies for it, desires for it, understanding just like anything we explore in our life that we study and discover before us. First of all when we touch it, but we don’t quite have the right questions and we don’t know what is it that we have, who are we dealing with, what are we in contact with, what are we engaging with. All of the questions in order to discover that Creator are called the who and what questions. So if we start to ask them, and it could be that a person is for many years already searching and studying but if these questions of what and who do not awaken in the person in a clear, sufficient, strong manner with a demand towards the revelation of the Creator, who and what, then the person is not ready. Then he is still in Egypt. Maybe he's not even aware that he is in Egypt, that he is under the control of his ego, but this is how it is, he just flows along. These questions awaken in him in his will to receive and he resolves those and he’s alive. This is called the still, vegetative and animate. To reach the degree of the speaking the degree of Adam it is possible only on the condition that one precisely awakens these questions of who and what. That these questions they bring him to the Creator. Actually the questions themselves are opposite the Creator. These questions become a barrier and if a person works on them, if he wants to resolve them then it is considered that he crosses the barrier. He comes out of Egypt, and he begins starts to work with Pharaoh or the Creator or both of them the way it awakens in him, and specifically through these questions of who and what he is rewarded with freedom, exiting in order to receive. So let us touch that a little bit. It is something that is profound and prolonged so let's learn how do we work with it. Because specifically through scrutinizing these questions we reach the understanding of what the true Egypt is, our exile from sanctity. Because we are not in sanctity so how can we understand and feel that we are in exile from it? After that once we feel ourselves existing in a distance from sanctity how will we come closer to it? All of this is not simple, it’s against our desire and Pharaoh is ruling; and we have to work against these questions, opposite these questions of who and what.
2. S. (05:33) The person lives as you say in his normal desires and suddenly these questions appear, who and what. Does it mean that he’s going down to Egypt?
R. Yes, now he’s discovering in his life that there is a certain stage, a phase. You’re saying that he understands it. Well, until he comes to it, it can take a few years. But actually now he’s beginning to attain that he is under the control of his will to receive and in order to exit this will to receive, to rise above it, he has to answer these are questions of who and what. Who is the Lord that I should obey his voice? Meaning what is the difference between the Creator and what is controlling him now? Let's say you can call it Pharaoh even though that too the person needs to identify. However there is no more than these two, it’s either Pharaoh or the Creator, let's say intermittently one and then the other. And the question of what, what is this work for you, for what do you need it? You need to yearn for ??? which is above reason in the quality of bestowal so that it will be both in your mind and in your heart. That you truly discover the necessity for it, the desire for it, the urgency for it. Why is this so burning for you what are you lacking in this life? You do not feel in this any gain in your vessels. Your vessels for the time being are the vessels of reception, so what are you going to gain? And here there is the work of scrutiny in a person. How do I scrutinize these things within me? How do I put it into order and what am I going to do? How do I position these questions of who and what towards the Creator, towards Pharaoh and how do I work with them? Soon we will get into it, and we will try to explain it. I am asking you not to jump immediately with questions but instead the questions should be scrutinized, clear and to the point and not that you will confuse the friends. You can start to ask a thousand of questions here in all directions. Therefore for the time being I would recommend going over these are questions and discuss them and later on we can talk.
Excerpt 78 (09:01)
3. R. (09:44) So these are the questions who and what. Who is the Lord that I should obey His voice meaning who is He? We don't see Him, we don’t feel Him, we don’t feel His control of the force of bestowal. How can we accept this force of control over us? How can we listen and hear what He wants, understand what He wants? Where is the rational here and the ability to hold on to these laws of bestowal? This is not yet clear to us. So how can we obey his voice, listen to his voice meaning adapt ourselves to the laws of love, the laws of bestowal? It’s completely outside of us, it’s not within our ability. And how to shift from the will to receive to the will to bestow or the intention in order to bestow? How can we work in such a way? We don’t know. We don’t know how; we don’t know where to do it. These things, we can’t have a grip on them. Therefore this work is hard work as we call it, it is very hard work. We need to plough our desires our intentions in our mind and heart to search and search for where we can somehow connect to these discernments. We will come back later to these questions but first let’s go and accumulate some gripping points.
Reading 79 twice (11:50)
4. R. (15:30) Let's continue, one or two more excerpts and then we will delve into these questions.
Reading 80 (15:41)
5. R. (17:42) So again which two questions does he have? One - that he must overcome the ego against nature and work not for his own benefit but for the benefit of others. For the benefit of others meaning for the sake of the Creator and two, he must believe that the Creator receives his labor. That these two questions are the main ones in the argument of the wicked one. Why are you doing it? What’s in it for you? It doesn't even let a person think in this direction to come closer to this direction and here once again we are in a barrier, truly in barrier.
Reading 81 (18:35)
6. R. (18:44) Meaning when one feels that he has things to overcome and is not capable of it, then out of that comes to him the need for help, for special help which is called the Torah. That in this world he doesn’t see that this is possible to do, and he has not yet reached spirituality. But he understands that he has no choice, and he has to rise to a degree that does not belong to him, that he must get help from the outside. It’s like when we have some problem and looking for some solution in mathematics or something that we have to solve, and I feel that my intellect doesn’t get this problem I have before me. I don’t understand it, I don’t feel it. Even the question itself is not clear to me, all the more so the solution. Meaning it’s all opaque. I feel it in my mind and heart that I have no vessels for it, for me to grasp the problem itself. So then we reach a barrier.
Reading 81 twice (20:08)
7. S. (23:48) Question is about the previous text. Can we say that the mind is asking the question of who and the heart is asking the question of what?
R. If it helps you then let's say so.
8. S. (24:23) What is a fuel in the work, that driving force?
R. The desire to enjoy.
9. R. (24:49) I see that if we read such excerpts, then we have a problem because we understand that we are facing something very serious, some very serious things.
10. S. (25:03) In excerpt 81 when he is talking about reward and punishment this degree is not very clear?
R. It is all not clear, it is all unclear.
S. Theoretically we have to get stronger in reward and punishment as in the introduction to TES he says that he who is closer does not have these questions yet?
R. You are right.
Excerpt 82 (25:31) twice
11. R. 27:31() This means that what is the importance of the Creator, so that you want to reach the point where you work in order to bestow and not in order to receive? Like now for the time being you are discovering that you are nature is demanding you to work in reception so why do you need to invert yourself truly to the opposite, as it says that it is the opposite, what is the reason?
Excerpt 82 continues: (28:07)
12. R. (28:32) Meaning that you want to reach spirituality in order to get from there all kinds of nice additions to your life, in your mind and heart, to fulfill yourselves with all kinds of explanations answers according to the way you want it in this world, so with such an approach you cannot open the spiritual world.
Reader continues: (28:59)
13. R. (29:07) Because it is entirely in order to receive, and spirituality opens to that extent only when you have the intention to bestow.
Reader continues: (29:15)
14. R. (29:43) Yes and then he begins to discover to feel that he is in selfish questions and opposite that there are the questions of bestowal in the heart and the mind and then truly the exile is felt in the person where he is opposite to spirituality.
15. S. (30:13) What is a Torah and Mitzvot in the line of Lishma?
R. In order to bestow.
S. But we are in order to receive so what should we hold onto, what is this line for Lishma?
R. That's all our work in the brain and heart should be aimed at me doing it not on behalf of the desire to receive that awakens in me but on the behalf of the desire that wakes up in the environment, in the world. As a Rabash writes about how to behave in the ten in such a way I can adapt myself more to the spiritual world.
16. S. (31:13) We see in very subtle moments that there is a faith in the scrutiny and the blind faith , what does this mean?
R. We have to reach a moment when we have the power of faith and in the power of faith that are a few degrees actually on each and every degree, on the 125 degrees there is a degree of faith that is suitable for those vessels and we will talk about it but mainly faith is that I can walk not according to my desire to receive but according to the desire to bestow and in a more simple way not according to my desire but according to the desire of others. If I make a restriction on myself so I have to serve not my desire, but I accept the desires of the others and serve them and somehow I am able to do something for the others, not for everybody, we need to scrutinize these things and then reach a state where certainly my actions become actions of bestow, spiritual actions. However they are more and more scrutinized, and I understand more and more what is required from us and here we have the problem of weakness that none of us is capable of, none of us is ready, we do not understand how much we are closed within the desire to receive. So bit my bit we have to open ourselves up in a struggle against the Pharaoh as he is becoming revealed that he does not allow us to exit the in order to receive and we need to progress.
S. So it turns out that faith for me is a blind faith and faith for the friends…?
R. The acts of bestow for the sake of the friends, for the sake of the environment, these are the actions that can bring us to actions to the Creator which is already the truthful complete act of bestowal. This is why it is from bestow to the society to bestowal to the Creator we have two stages we have to execute.
17. S. (34:02) When the person is in a state where than the ten expects him to act for the ten and the Pharaoh comes and asks questions, when the person is in that a state, so how should the person react or how should he answer the Pharaoh that not that Pharaoh is answering the pharaoh?
R. It depends on how much the person is capable of isolating in himself these vessels, how much he understands and feels and how much he is capable of sorting things, his desires, his vessels and understanding that it is his ego that is asking him or maybe other details. If it is the group that is asking then the person can already make some scrutiny here, opposite to himself, but if he does not have a group then he is just turning around in the darkness inside of himself and he will not be able to do any scrutiny. He thinks that maybe by his intellect or emotions, by all kinds of efforts, doing a different analysis or synthesis inside himself you will be able to do something and understand where he is at, but certainly not. So this may have to do with, may be relevant to the intellect but under no circumstances can relate to the heart and desire so the person has no choice. Only through the love of people reaching the love of the Creator if you're not talking about love at least scrutinies the person has to scrutinize his relation to the environment, there for sure, even though he immediately stumbles on the fact that he is egoistic and he does not want anything, doesn't think about anybody else, but this is the truth and here it becomes a possible for us through the shattering of Adam HaRishon to feel immediately where we are.
S. When I tell myself things that that I told myself stories but how do I respond and see the difference is telling himself stories, how can the help ten help the person?
R. Through the ten bit by bit we need to do it in a way that we don't put pressure on anybody, but each should take an example according to his degree. This is as it is written that there was no great joy before one before him as the day when they heaven and earth were created when they're already differences between the in order to receive and in order to bestow and all kinds of such actions of bestowal and reception and then truly the person has a place, room for scrutiny and can establish himself, he can stabilize himself. Otherwise he is remaining always on the degree of a beast, and we see it in the world that we are just simply turning around in this network of in order to receive, in the network of the Pharaoh, and then we will just fight between us and then we will quarrel between us and nothing good can come out of it only the ego profits from this. Instead until the bring to it also the system of bestowal, the upper light, then we will not be able to scrutinize without it in which qualities we are incorporating into which qualities we have to reach.
18. S. (38:24) What are the right questions, why do I have to go above reason and to listen to Moses?
R. Because your own reason is always only in the reason of the Pharaoh, in the reason of the desire to receive and by this you are a remaining within reason, so you are never going to be able to get to spirituality, to the truth. You will be closed into your own ego, and this is how you begin and end your life, this is it and if you want to rise a little bit and attain the force that is controlling your life and by that you are rising above the physical life, you must simply accept his nature and this is why we need this exodus from Egypt, there is no choice.
19. S. (39:52) If I try to be in this work in order to bestow and I do not see that I am successful, should I try to work above reason or should I ask of the Creator that he gives me the ability to work in bestowal?
R. If I see that I am not successful, that I cannot do it, I must ask the Creator for the ability to rise above my own reason, above reason and to stay in that, to remain in that until I receive this ability because only above my egoistic reason, my current reason, can I discover the truthful reality. Not on the animal degree where I am right now but under speaking degree, on the degree of man but on the conditions that I connect with the entire Kli. Maybe not the entire Kli but somehow with the Kli of Adam HaRishon the vessel that is now broken.
20. S. (41:13) Why the foreign thoughts he called them spies; the Creator does want to measure how much I am serious in this thing of coming to serve him?
R. We will talk about this, we will talk about these foreign thoughts, the alien thoughts this is how they are a called but why are they foreign, they are foreign to the Creator but for myself it is possible that they are not foreign, I feel very good about them, about these alien thoughts and I feel good in them, I live with them.
Reader continues: (42:06)
21. S. (44:10) So if we don’t have these two questions simultaneously, does it mean that it is not the right way?
R. Specifically, by these two questions we reach the goal, what is this work for you and who is the Creator that I should hear and listen to his voice, if I am constantly aimed at solving these two questions I certainly reach the purpose of creation. These two questions direct me directly to the Creator himself.
22. S. (45:10) The question is that a lot of at times I am listening to myself and I think it is myself and I completely agree with this and focus, but I am hearing inside of myself but the question what I am hearing a lot of time, so it does not come up you know especially when the friends tell me, do this for the Creator, importance of the Creator, come to the lesson and somehow where am I in between all of these noises, voices that I hear for myself, it is maybe the Pharaoh. So it is a bit scary to think that there is a force acting in the background somewhere and I do not recognize it and then Creator, it is the importance of the Creator and friends. Where am I in between all these things?
R. When we look at little children, that they grow up next to us, how they speak, how they perceive reality, how they relate to everything, we see that they understand only a small part of what is going on. We do not know they do not know that we work and do certain things as there is a big world around us that we do not simply get the food on the table from nothing. Where is the car that is picking them up, where is the car coming from, they do not understand anything that is happening around them. They only use everything for their own need, for the small desire to receive and they use everything we give them, if we imagine ourselves in this way as well we are also very limited world that opens up only a small portion and then we use it without knowing, where and why and how things are coming and how to correctly use it this world, where is it taking us, what is happening to us. After we pass away we don't have these questions and we see the world is very complex and it's very confusing. When we grow up or that we are confused about how the world adheres to us, we are a part of building the world and the world is also building us.
We are in this mixed state, the wisdom of Kabbalah needs to raise us to a higher degree because otherwise we remain as children and as much as we play with all those toys, we never get to know the world of truth where those toys are coming from even that we do not know. We need to rise to a totally different degree, that degree of the forces and from where the forces address into matter, turn it around, activate and turn them and then we find ourselves in the consequences of that. So our work is how to rise to the mind and the heart, the brain, and the heart with the questions of what and who, from our degree from the degree of the little children but the children who are asking, “what is this work for you and who is the Creator.” Hear his voice.
Why should I listen to his voice, that I should listen to this voice of the Creator and what are these commandments that he wants me to keep by which I reach his degree. If we come to such questions and there is only one question, how to keep all those things because it is certain that these questions are of a higher reality. If we want to understand and feel it just like a small child might want to understand and feel it, let's say that the child wants to feel and understand that grown-ups, we are the same. Therefore the Sages that are the grownups compared to us, they teach us how to rise above mind and heart through the question of what this work for you is and who is the Lord that I should listen to his voice. The work of the brain and the heart, how can we rise to a higher degree and there we arise again and again and each time we have the questions of who and what. This is our work now we enter with you deeper in the work of man in this world, so we understand how the world is turning.
You see what is happening in the world, nobody knows what is happening, everybody is trying to get less blows just like little children. They do not understand where these strikes are coming from and why, but they do not want to come to the question of who and what, they simply want to minimize their strikes. How to get along nicer, that's how much I get along, I do not care that later I die, and these questions remain, I do not want to know anything. I want. like a little child where he cries he gets his lollypop, and he calms down. so I want my lollipop and calm down and I do not care about anything else, meaning I work only according to my belly if we can say this. According to my small desire to receive. The wisdom of Kabbalah tells me that if you truly wish to come out of the strikes, the problems that you see in this world and that you want to start to feel this trembling, that say, you must solve this problem, you cannot get into those wars any longer that are becoming any more global and look what is happening all over reality and all over the world. Look how reluctantly we are interconnected, the entire nations and continents where something happens in one place will echo at another place.
So our life obligates us to rise above the questions of what and who, that appear to us if they are personal questions for each and every person, but these are not personal questions. We are talking today about global questions, that we have no other choice but to solve them, ‘we’ mean, the human beings. That is why the must learn how to do this and how to answer the questions of who and what and where are the strikes, problems coming from and what is the essence, that content, the purpose of these strikes and problems. What should they bring me to and how should I respond to those blows? Look at our states, our development is becoming more difficult. We have entered a world which is completely locked in, understanding that it is not this pandemic, the virus, there will be much bigger problems and it is not about who is to blame but instead how through these questions and problems, we can come to solutions.
It is not that we find somebody to blame, okay, you'll find someone to blame and what is next, it does not solve any problems. I need to look for the right solution and answer and that will be only after the come to a truthful connection with the higher force, there is none else besides him, he does everything by himself and we want to be with him, we want to be in connection with him and this is what the wisdom of Kabbalah can give us but only on the condition that realize it to rise to his degree, rising to his degree meaning that we understand we feel to some extent what it means to work in bestow because this is his level. This is what we are learning right now, so how to come out of Egypt, how to come out of a lower degree, when I care about nothing, but I truly asked who and what. Meaning why do I have to listen to the forces of the higher nature, the higher nature that dictates to me that I have to be in mutual bestow with everybody and why do I need to hear this, why do I need to also determine such laws between us. If by this I want to come out of the darkness when we don't understand anything and from the blows that we get within this darkness, then we have no choice, I have to understand that I have to solve this problem. Let's hope that we can solve it, for the time being it is before us, we have to digest the problem carefully and since it is not only our problem but it belongs to the whole world that is before it and after we know and we find out about the problem, we also understand the solution from within and then we will be able to explain it's to the whole world and it is all on you to do and each needs to feel that he is responsible for the whole world in that.
23. S. (57:22) It is felt that the sin of the tree of knowledge is like a swamp that pulls you in more and more. The more we think about it and scrutinize it so the heart feels it more and we also feel the rejection so should we first disconnect from these scrutinies and thoughts and take in only the feeling and raise that to the Creator?
R. Only by connecting in a group and asking all of us together that in each one there is a part of the question of what and who and when we connect in the group we have the right combination of what and who and if we raise it to the Creator we receive an answer.
24. S. (58:30) It seems that here we have a condition that from the Tree of Knowledge to the sensation of within our reason, to the feeling of understanding from the heart, within those two distinctions we find these questions is this the condition that will allow us to work with those questions so to move from knowledge to the heart?
R. Yes. Yes, the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil ultimately it appears to us now, it is the same direction now it appears on a different level called who and what.
S. You can use, many times that when we feel okay and seem fine about those questions, instead how can we bring those in those that dimension, where 95% of our actions we act out of instinct and those questions are not within us?
R. No, we will have to rise above the instinct from what and who to their solution which is on the degree of bestowal and connection. This is the point of departure from the corporeal world to the spiritual world and we will not be able to let go of it, rather here we will discover the barrier and we will have to break it and come out of the feeling of this world the corporeal questions to spiritual questions, above reason.
S. When we act out of instinct everything gets deleted in front of our eyes, we do not even have the opportunity to understand and go above reason. What is the work here?
R. I understand all of your complaints, you do not have to share your complaints with everyone because everyone is in it more or less. We will learn about how to rise up above it, so you'll see that you start to chew each and every question and answer and every verse. Rather first we will read them and continue to work with them and the questions we will get gradually and maybe you will have one question on everything. That is it, patience.
S. No translation.
R. I understand that you are a warm person, you want to get answers, but you will get answers from within, from your own scrutiny, in a way that when you connect, when you advance towards connection with others, from within the point of connection with the other, with the group, from there it will begin to receive discernments. Discernments such that they bring you an understanding of the question and of the answer. It does not depend on my mental explanation; it depends on your effort and your connection with the group. It won't do you any good to cry and demand, demand of yourself a little bit to soften the heart and to come closer to the friends.
25. S. (01:03:10) From one side we need to do more and from the other side the will to receive pulls us towards its interest, what can help us to feel the urgency to enter into this real urgency?
R. Also here it is the connection between you. Friends, only the connection between us can scrutinize for us the state that we are in and nothing but that. Then you will find out that it is possible that you are even before going down to Egypt, it is possible that you are already on a certain stage where you are in Egypt, and it is also possible that you are ready for the Exodus. It all depends on the degree of connection between you.
That you understand before you enter Egypt everyone is in friction with one another on a collision course with one another. Just like we learn from the Torah, from the story about the brothers of Joseph. Joseph goes down to Egypt and after him his brothers show up, those who do not know Joseph, those who can identify him and later they find out that they are in the good Egypt, that it is good to connect in the will receive because this is great we can succeed in it if we connect in a ten we see the ten as an opportunity for solving all of our problems. When we begin to approach it in this way, egoistic, we are starting to find out gradually that we cannot solve anything for us unless we exchange our current relationships with other relationships.
It is written that seventy people come down to Egypt, a small group and then they multiply. The will to receive grows, not the quantity of people we do not speak about the quantity of people, the will to receive of each and every one grows. Pharaoh enters and adds to the desire to receive more and more and then they begin to be in the millions and then we must begin the work of connection between them, and they have a lot, a lot of people. From that we come to an understanding of the solution. This has to happen today all over the world.
It is not only our work, the whole world needs to feel that it is participating, and you will see what is happening with the wars and all kinds of problems. It is not some random local conflict, a temporary conflict. Everyone will begin to feel, it will be apparent all over the world, the pandemic, the war, everything will be revealed in such a way that everyone will be able to feel how connected we are to one another, and no one will have an opportunity to run away. This is all for us to feel that we are in Egypt, we are moving towards that state, all of humanity is. All of it.
And then we will talk about how to come closer to the recognition and understanding of the state. We will not be able to easily come out of all of these states. No, the world is just about ready to enter all of those problems, those economic problems especially, problems with supplies, ecology, and the pandemic. Such problems that's around the globe, around the Earth they will close in on us. We should learn about those things, and we should see in them and in us everything that is going on today. Today Egypt is the entire Earth. And all of us will have to see it in this way in order to come out of it. Come out of all of these problems that are closing, locking us in. We will talk about it a lot. There is no other choice. You will also see how the wisdom of Kabbalah and the current affairs are starting to be very close to one another that they are clothed in one another.
26. S. (01:09:16) How can we measure our gradual defeat of Pharaoh as a ten? Or is this a one-time thing?
R. No, no, we are in an extended process, a global process and what is happening to us. Why am I telling you about this? Globalization. So that you understand on the one hand it is important and affects everyone all of humanity and on the other hand how this is our personal work, Bnei Baruch's work because we understand it and we feel it and we are in a state where million more will come. They will surround us in order to hear something or learn something but in truth this process that we are in will eventually touch everyone and that is how we will develop. You don't see explanations on it you don't understand and when we advance we will accept how things are spreading out. This is a very interesting time. I would say the most prosperous maybe, no not prosperous the best the world has ever been through, and a new world is born out of the degrees of the still, vegetative and animate. Now a new world is born, and we need to help it to rise from the animate degree to the speaking degree.
27. S. (01:11:28) And the beginning of the lesson you said that so long as these questions of who and what do not appear in us we cannot get to know what Egypt is and in a aware and conscious manner they do not really appear in us but can we say that the question of who is when I forget about the Creator throughout the day and everything that is happening and what is there a difference in the lack of desire to do anything?
R. This is on purpose this way how we feel about our will to receive that is growing and is controlling us. Later when we come back for a few minutes for the connection between us and we correct it, we sanctify it, we fill it with the right direction for development, that is our work so as much as we can short episodes, every hour, every couple of hours, 5 minutes, or 3 minutes every hour to return to the connection between you is much better than just doing half an hour in the middle of the day. If you could do it like that it is much better and much more beneficial to our advancement.
28. S. (01:13:09) On the one hand the Kabbalah respects the acting, playing the way children play but you said that we are not supposed to play like children but to ask ourselves serious questions, why do I owe something to the Creator, who is he but if.
R. I'm not talking about humanity in general, I'm talking about Bnei Baruch. We need to try to never the less grow as much as possible because we were given a clear vessel, a means for growing up. Children do not have it, humanity doesn't have it, they're on hold they are in their corporeal development, corporal existence until we will be able to bring an explanation, a solution, a method for somehow joining with us, connecting with us and then we will raise them on the condition that we will be the Galgalta ve Eynaim (GE) then we will connect them as AHP and raise them with us but for the time being no. For the time being you can only tell them from afar about different things providing that it belongs to them, about the world, the future of the world but not about the details of the spiritualist ascent. They are not capable of hearing so we should not confuse them. Just like with children, we explain to them what they are capable of understanding, grasping, digestion and developing as a child.
S. You say that it will not help to just ignore reality but the world does want to stay in the degree of children they all love searching for the guilty ones, the maximum views they can have online that is how they like to start blaming each other and you say that we have to disseminate but on the one hand no one will be able to listen to us on the other hand the developments in the world is so serious that you really want them to hear you already, so will we succeed somehow?
R. We need to nevertheless do it slowly gradually out of love just like with kids and explain to humanity about the future that we have to reach.
S. It is not so okay because also in the state of the pandemic I didn't see that people called you to participate in some International show that you will appear with your explanation.
R. The world is not yet ready, and we are not yet ready and therefore we still have to continue the way that we are.
29. R. (01:19:32) I would maybe summarize what we discussed. That our explanation to the world needs to be very simple basically. That there cannot be more, something more correct for the connection of the world than rising above all disturbances, all differences. We are not going to be able to correct each other. We are not going to be able to equalize each other, light drops in a pond, rather each one remains with his own and we learned how we can be connected above all differences as it is written love covers all crimes otherwise it is impossible. When each one tries to demand from the other why aren't you like I want to see you, why aren't you like that this is just a destructive approach and it cannot connect anyone with anyone, no one. Even in our body in all elements of nature there are transitions between one thing to the other, that are above desire of each and every element. Look at how components in our body interconnect materials only through a transition that connects two things for the benefit of both and not one thing and demanding something from the other therefore people and countries and societies we'll have to realize that there is no future for the world by each one dominating the other rather each one dominating himself so as to connect and by that the world will advance and the right direction. This is what we have to explain to everyone and try to publish material on this to the world further and further.
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30. R. This is how a person discovers each time that he is doing work that he thought was good but now he discovers that it is not. He raises himself to a higher level in actions of bestowal and connection and there too he discovers that ultimately he is not in the correct state and that is how we discovered that what it means that in the descent the Malchut of the upper one and the Keter of the lower one and when we rise to our Keter we discover the Malchut of the upper one. It always turns for us, I was in bestowal, and everything was okay, I had attainment and everything and then all of a sudden I discover that I get nothing but on the contrary and in my state I recognize the evil in myself and my lowly state and once again I have to look for where my direction is and what I need to do and that is the work.
31. S. (01:24:39) How to answer correctly to these answers, especially the question what this work for you is that it becomes practical like you just described to raise Malchut to Keter.
R. It is only when a person nullifies himself to the group in a practical way, convinces himself a thousand times, persuading himself until he comes to some minor correct action. Then in connecting and such a correct, realistic way, he comes to recognize how it works, how it happens and that's it. He rises to another degree and another degree that is what we need to do. The only problem is really the first and second-degree where we learn how to do it but then one we have experienced; we already know that this is the path.
S. These questions are so we can answer them?
R. It is not in order to answer them it is in order to ask them by way of an action and with the correct action the action itself becomes like a question then you receive an answer from asking using my mouth I cannot discover anything with that. I work, I do an action and as a result I come to an answer.
32. S. (01:26:50) The same direction I thought we heard today that these questions are important, and we have to scrutinize them in ourselves or maybe in the ten because they direct us, and we also learned that you do not have to answer the questions of the wicked you have to knock his teeth out.
R. This is the answer. There is no intellectual answer here and it is good that you heard it. There is no intellectual answer, what is this work for you. You cannot explain it in your intellect, only through the action itself when you do the action and then you receive the answer in practice, and that makes it clear to you. Let's say we make an action of connection between us, and we do not understand why and how because internally there is no willingness, readiness. But we make efforts, and we ask though we have no real need for it. But we attain something in practice and from this practice we begin to obtain the mind then we get an answer.
S. Does it also work on the second question like that, who is the Creator to which I should listen?
R. Yes. It always works in a way that we do and then as a result we get an answer.
S. But what does it mean to do about who’s a God I should listen to?
R, This is called we shall do, and we shall hear. Nothing else is written. We shall do and we shall hear. The doing comes first then the understanding and the attainment.
S. To do I understand toward the work but what does it mean towards the question to whom is the Lord I should listen?
R. Work on connection and there you will recognize the Creator. In other words because the Creator is the whole.
33. S. (01:28:09) Does dealing with these questions of who and what help us draw the light that reforms?
R. Of course, only that.
S. Does it matter if each one does it individually or with the whole ten during the lesson or during the day?
R. Preferably that everyone is doing that although not literally together but that everyone is occupied with that.
34. S. (01:29:41) Why is it built in such a way that revealing the bad in the world happens way quicker than the recognition of evil and the ability to correct it? Problems and troubles and wars are revealed in the world, and we still have not reached the recognition of evil in order to fix it. Why is it made that way?
R. Because first we have to feel the evil. I'm not sure that we feel it, I’m not sure. But when we begin to sense the evil, to attain the evil in a way that it touches many people, maybe not all of them but most of them, then from sensing the evil we begin to ask. And from that question you become ready to hear answers. That is how we will come to understand the solution.
S. Could it be that BB enters the state called Egypt, correct it and then the world will just receive it corrected? Why should everyone suffer this evil?
R. Because they can’t sense the fulfillment, the good, the purpose of creation without having vessels for it. Therefore we have to communicate to them our vessels but still they have to be ready to accept it corporeally, and we bring them a spiritual solution and help connection happen. They need to be ready to nullify their corporeal state that gives them troubles and problems, in order to connect with us and say yes we are willing to connect with you. Like Baal HaSulam writes at the end of the introduction to the Book of Zohar, that the nations of the world will come and carry every person of Israel, all those who are aimed towards the Creator. And by that they will receive the light that reforms. It is impossible otherwise that something will happen, but they have to be ready, and ready means that they want. And without troubles you cannot feel that. It’s not simple troubles, these are plights of the final correction, of what is called the war of the Messiah; the force that pulls all of humanity from below from in order to receive to in order to bestow. That’s called Messiah. It requires great suffering, and you remember what Baal HaSulam also writes about this. And besides Baal HaSulam it is written from thousands of years ago about this. Even the greatest Kabbalists say that they wouldn't like to be in those times so to speak, even though everyone gets that through incorporation. But we will have to be ready to explain to all of humanity how do we rise from in order to receive to the questions of who and what. That we will recognize them and from these questions come to the recognition of the Creator. And when we are already in the Creator, immersed in the Creator, in connection with the Creator, then we become Galgalta Eynaim for all of humanity. And then they can approach us and connect and cling on to us and we will carry them out with us to adhesion, to the general adhesion of all humanity and the Creator.
S. So that means that there has to be some sort of suffering that’s revealed in the world, there is no way to speed it up?
R. It is not the level of suffering, it is the level of necessity, urgency to incorporate with the spiritual level in order to bestow in adhesion with everyone, at least to some extent. According to everyone's root of the soul they will all have to feel the deficiency for that, a true deficiency not that it’s seemingly worthwhile.
35. S. (01:35:06) Will we be able to answer these questions correctly if we can connect the work in the ten with the state of the world? Will we be able to answer these questions correctly of what and who if we connect the work in the ten to the state of the world?
R. Yes, we should also think about that. Because even though we don’t care about the world that much and all of humanity and all the countries and parts of creation, we still have to envision these things, how it all comes together, how everything unifies and that the future of the world is to once again come to a single closed system that includes everything in it.
36. S. (01:36:11) Could it be that our advancement is what speeds up the states in humanity?
R. Our progress, how much it speeds up humanity’s development. Yes, but I wouldn’t explain that because this requires understanding. We are however developing and after us all of humanity is developing. We are interconnected. All of the shattering that happened in the vessel of Adam HaRishon it happened in the connection between the parts of the vessels, but the whole structure remains. Except towards us the connection is lost seemingly and so the more we connect between us it helps the whole vessel re-establish itself. I do not want to talk about it so much because there are a lot of aspects to it that require clarification. But yes, it is very worthwhile for us to think about how through connection between us we unify the whole world and cause correction. It really depends mostly on us or how much we awaken them.
37. S. (01:37:55) You said that we need to explain to the world how each one remains in their own way, and we have to connect above it. But how could that be done if one of the sides stays in his way by that he harms the other, that there is a conflict between them. So what does it mean to remain in my own way and not harm the other and connect above it?
R. Baal HaSulam talks about how everyone remains in their religion and faith and all those things. So there are things that we don’t need to touch about each other. On the levels of still, vegetative and animate, how everyone lives, I don’t touch the other. These have those customs, others have those customs, we have these customs, whatever it is it should remain, it actually should remain. As Baal HaSulam writes we do not need to interfere with each other in that regard and determine how they need to live. If he’s a socialist and he's a capitalist, live however you want, pray to whoever you want, decide on whatever family laws that you want to have. But we want to cover all of the differences all the crimes with love, connection above all crimes. It doesn't matter who you are or what you are, if you want to be connected with me then we have to build a network of connection between us above all the differences. And then all the differences are inside like this sphere, and above all those differences we spread out the sukkah of peace as it’s called. Peace, Shalom comes from the word Shlemut, wholeness, perfection. We will cover all of humanity with it and not that one will come to another and say I'm not happy with how you behave with this or that state in your country and your people and so on and so forth. No one will force anything on anyone besides the desire to be connected to each other in a good mutual connection. That is the law of the world, and this is what nature is pushing us towards. And if we do not listen to this we will suffer as you could see in the wars that are happening between nations right now. So we have to understand that everyone can live however they want but just to relate to each other. For that we have to develop a connection all the way towards love. And whoever goes against that in forcing something on the other, that goes against nature, and it will bring them a lot of harm, and we can see that. It can carry on for many years, for a long time and do a lot of harm. When such nations do that to themselves they think they're harming others, but it is mostly themselves.
38. S. (01:41:44) When we say that each one will remain in his own way, we’re not saying my tendency to control the other, that can’t remain.
R. Like Baal HaSulam writes, everyone can stay in their religion, their beliefs, their culture, all their customs, whatever they have that keeps them together as they are, that is their business. I'm not going into the borders of a country let's say or some group, but the connection between the groups, between the states that needs to be love. Like how we talk about the organs of the body. Is there a similarity between the action of the liver and the lungs and the heart, whatever it is. Each one works in their own format according to their own laws doing their own function. But the connection between them is reciprocity, mutuality, connecting for the sake of the whole body. So connecting in order to bestow to the Creator is actually the general law that has to include everyone in it.
39. S. (01:43:13) How in practice does revealing the problems in the world help us solve the questions of who and what?
R. The world will come into such troubles that humanity will not know how to emerge from them unless they learn the laws of the world. We are always preparing ourselves for good things and according to our effort we delve into worse things. How can that be? This is what happens, and the closer and closer we get to wars, to exploiting each other, we are preparing ourselves to be exploited by the other or defeated by the other. You have to prepare yourself only to connect with the others.
40. S. (01:44:21) How do the questions of who and what bring us closer to the Creator? It feels like they’re moving us apart.
R. We see that we are distanced from each other in various inner discernments between each other. But along with that we have to prepare ourselves to connect between us on the outside so that love rules there. Look at it like this, a young couple gets married, and they begin to build a family, so what do they want? They do not want their parents interfering with their lives. Of course the parents want to come and get involved in things and say what is going on, and they wait for their children to turn to them and to ask for advice, but the young couple does not want that. Typically they want to determine everything for themselves, so there is a conflict of interest basically. And we have to understand that according to the development of the world you have to allow the developing element its own freedom. Same thing here. Between families, between countries, between each and everything you do not interfere in a certain country anywhere, it doesn't matter what we are talking about. You can only determine a good connection that you want to have with each and every country. This is essentially where we are standing in terms of nature's laws. As I explained with the example of the organs of the body, each organ works according to its own internal laws but externally they each sustain the other.
41. S. (01:46:55) So can this only take place in a mutual way because if there is only one side that wants to connect and the other one wants to obligate so it can't happen?
R. No, humanity still needs to reveal this, but it will be revealed quickly either through scenarios of the wars, troubles, and problems or through scenarios that will not involve bloodshed like say conflicts of trade and commerce or financial wars. But they will have to recognize that there has to be a completely new world order here and we are in the transition to a new world. And so it is not a problem. It's joyful that no one knows how we need to behave in the newly emerging world, and the world leaders are all baffled and no wisdom they have will help them here. But only one thing, within the country each and every one must aspire to interconnection between all the parts of the nation and on the outside there has to be an external connection for the sake of everyone. Only positive connection both inside and out is what will win. Otherwise we are facing a third world war.
42. S. (01:48:48) It seems the whole world has this process of globalization and connection and due to the last few days there is more separation as if it is going to the other side and disconnecting also from the media of the other side. So what does it mean on development, what can we do about it?
R. Globalization happened only with regards to commerce, and it’s good. By these things we start feeling how interdependent we are. The fact that the world now feels that you can't function without some chips from Taiwan or some other components from Japan and other things, that’s good. We all feel that we are interdependent. Even the Russians can't activate their missiles because they are missing some chips from Taiwan and America. Such things emerge here that are very interesting, even in such sensitive things that are important to countries such as weapons and defense and offensive systems. They cannot even activate them without your other side, your opponent agreeing, it’s a wonder. I can’t say attack America because there are components in America that I do not have the ability to activate, they are disconnecting these systems from me. It’s very strange but look at what we came to. The corporeal connection even necessitates us to come to a deeper connection, higher connection and this will happen on all levels, we will discover this soon. Very interesting.
43. S. (01:51:21) You are saying the way a family cell should exist but what if the parents or someone discovers that there is a problem in that family so they should not get in there and help fix it?
Yes, but still that would be interfering in a very external, subtle, and not a deep way; except if there is a situation of mentally ill people, people who can’t get along and they require some assistance. But if it is a normal family you have to let it develop as accepted. You can help them but like Rabash would say about how you behave with children, open your pocket, and shut your mouth. This is a behavior that can help.
44. S. (01:52:40) Can we ask what you recommended on the daily meetings every hour or two hours instead of half hour meetings?
R. Not every hour or two. I said that maybe it is better to do shorter meetings but at a higher frequency if it’s possible.
S. So what content do you see in such a meeting and at what frequency do you recommend doing it?
R. Let's say that we determine that in an hour we meet and learn some excerpts from these excerpts that we read in the morning. And each one by that gives his commentary, his interpretation of what he thinks about it, maybe say a minute of interpretation. A minute is a long time. Let’s say we read item 86, so we read the excerpt, and someone explains for a minute what he thinks, but in a true manner of explanation not just some beautiful words and that’s it. So we all want to connect with it. Try something like that. All I want here is that we won’t just live this connection between us twice a day but many times a day if it’s possible, doable. I know that many of you are texting or typing always with your hands on the keyboard or something. Try to not add a lot of words but more content.