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Baal HaSulam. The Essence of Religion and Its Purpose

Lição 3|10 Kas 2022
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Morning Lesson November 09, 2022 Transcription

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 3:

Baal HaSulam. The Essence of Religion and Its Purpose (His Guidance Is Purposeful Guidance)

Reading “HIs Guidance is Purposeful Guidance” (00:25)

1. S. (06:12) Could you explain the example he gets here about the baby and ox that there is proof of purposeful guidance?

R. No, he says that according to the initial stages, you cannot determine the final stages that will come in the development because the ox is so powerful,it can stand on its own, he knows what to eat and how to receive an anything and everything, within a matter of days is roaming around not going to get lost. Whereas a human baby, if you leave him and do not care for it, It can't do anything for itself and it is doomed to death.

S. Why is that? Like you say here, that the end is sweeter and the beginning is more corrupted, why does it work that way?

R. He has to go through all the states from the absence to from the HaVaYaH, to the being and to collect all the stages in him and attach them to the first point on the path and the last point on the path of HaVaYaH. Therefore the more special a creation is, the more it goes through all of these stages meticulously. Stage by stage.

S. Is that correct also in an individual meaning to the extent that we see a person as a friend that is more corrupted towards the end?

R. We cannot see it with friends and in general we cannot see it. That is why I do not recommend you engage with it unless you just want to walk with it in a general way as he explains it to us. That's why we have to see things in this way and part of that.

2. S. (08:46 )They say there is 'no wise as the experienced'. I'm not wise nor am I experienced because look what he writes here, not only that there is no example as if to annoy they are showing us the opposite beginning state so I don't get the material and instead of showing me the opposite way so how do we overcome this because there is not as wise as the experience?

R. It means you have to be wise and you can be wise only from experience, and you will be able to see the truth.

S. Now they are showing me everything opposite,how can I overcome this?

R. They show you that you cannot reach the right conclusion from it.

S. How do we advance? How do we come out of this state?

R. You don't have to advance, you don't have to come out, exist the way you are and just make sure that every moment is how you feel good and that is what you do.

S. What to sit on in the Ten without advancing us without being wise?

R. None of us is wise or experienced but by asking in the Ten, asking for the upper force to take care of us by that we awaken it to influence us and by that we develop and connect.

S. When will I come wise and experienced at what point?

R. After you connect with the others you have no place in which to store the light of Hochma that will influence you.

S. You mean to build a Kli?

R. Yes of course we have to awaken the deficiency for receiving the upper light, that is also tha part of it?

S. Also in wiser and experienced they are also a part of it?

R. Yes of course.

S. These are the degrees that he speaks up?

R. Yes of course.

3. S. (11:37) Baal HaSulam is trying to show us that their guidance and experiences is all a part of it through the development of the process that there are guidance and Providence is purposeful and then in the end he says that he bestows only goodness but a person feels development only towards evil so how can he understand that there is good development here for him?

R. Man sees that there is development and in this development he sees himself as being both in the good and in the bad. He agrees with this development because after all from the deficiency he becomes with fulfillmenth, is heart and his mind. You cannot really say that this development is towards detriment. You see how many people on the face of the planet desire development.

S. Yes, but he says elsewhere that if you calculate then you see that all in all we feel only pain, a little bit of pleasure, but mostly pain. What is he developing and leading us towards?

R. Talk to each and every person like that and see what they'll tell you. Nevertheless, they prefer the development over the lack of development.

S. Why is that?

R. They think that it will be good for that.

S. Are they right?

R. I would not say that they are right but according to what they receive of course they are not right because with greater knowledge becomes greater pain but eventually they hope that through development all kinds of development they will reach the good.

S. From that and one cloth and show a good and correct fulfillment?

R. Of course. Whatever it will be it is certain that we are moving towards the good that is what everyone thinks. Even if they do not think it, we do not have the strength to kill ourselves. You see that now they're talking about nuclear bombs, and all that so someone wants it to happen? No.

S. What is the difference between the essence of religion and the purpose of religion?

R. The essence of religion is that we are using an inner force of reason religion to bring ourselves to the purpose of religion and the purpose of religion we do not know exactly what it is but as it develops us it always towards a higher state.

S. We see that there are many religions.

R. That's not really what we talked about in religion?

S. What do they mean?

R. I know what they mean.

S. Baal HaSulam.

R. Baal HaSulam means that the essence of religion and its purpose when we realize and implement the wisdom of Kabbalah we come to a higher, more focused state.

4. S. (15:44) We see that in our forms of development we many times take the example of raising children. When you raise children you always give them positive reinforcement no matter how hard it is for them to give them positive reinforcement. Where is the positive reinforcement that the Creator gives us?

R. The positive reinforcement that we get or that we give kids?

S. That we give kids that is clear but what is the one that we receive to keep motivated on the path?

R. You feel a great void if we do not realize the spiritual Reshimot records that awakening in us. Those of us in whom spiritual records awaken if we do not realize, do not actualize them we feel terrible inner emptiness.

S. How can we change this terrible emptiness to strengthening along the path?

R. I go and I realize the advice of Kabbalists.

S. The more I go on the path I get heaviness and pain?

4. S. (17:18) It is written that the good quality is not in the public before the creation was in its final point. the question is before the final correction is there a quality of good?

R. Hardly.

Reading: (18:09) “Two paths a path of pain and a path of Torah”

5. S. (24:00 ) How can there be suffering from good that does good?

R. Yes, that is so a person will correct himself instead of suffering he would actually enjoy.

6. S. (24:15) The king doesn't love his son last because he is problematic?

R. Of course not we are only talking about Providence and how it works in each and every one to bring each and every one to the final completed state.

S. I'm asking because I noticed that we are trying to bestow upon the friends, to love the friends the criteria of such a successful action is that the friends needs love me back and we know that it should not be that way in other words we do not need to pay attention to the friends love me or not if I want to be like the Creator.

R. What you are feeling for the friends are receiving from the Creator the way you relate to them you really to the Creator.

S. No Translation

R. Try, try to feel your attitude towards them, their attitude towards you, try to feel these things correctly.

7. S. (26:15) Please don't get mad at me, just tell me to stop. The question is I have a problem. He now said about the true reality and again he explained to us that the true reality does not exist in our mind. What is he talking about? What do we need to do? What do we feel or I do not know to do.How can we feel between the real reality and the non - reality.

R. You cannot discern anything, so sit and listen for a few months straight without mixing your intellect into it, only in order to understand what is written and then we'll talk.

S. It is written in a way that is kind of high.

R. I told you what I recommend: sit quietly and listen without involving your intellect into it and then after some time you will grasp things correctly and understand them, you will succeed.

8. S. (27:47) How do we teach a person that he is the most evolved creation and that the purpose of his life is sublime and not remain as the ox that was when he was born?

R. How to teach?

S. How to teach a person that he is the most sublime being? That the purpose of his life is the most sublime?

R. Explain it to him, the way that we are reading it. Who are we? What are we compared to the other still, vegetative, and animate? We explain it to an educated person so that he will begin to be a person, be a human.

9. S. (28:35) How can you awaken a person who chooses pain over and over again and always prefers momentary fulfillment instead of the path of Torah ?

R. The group has to teach such a person. It's not like one person can take a person like that into the group and slowly gradually teach him to surround him and teach him the best thing is always with the friends connection with the friends.

10. S. (29:20) It says in the text that gradually growth is cause and consequence. What is this cause and consequence?

R. For the stage that we undergo in our development as we advance.

S. How can a person reach the ripeness of the fruit..and reveal all of his inner forces and realize them positively?

R. Only inside the group, again. We have nothing to say. Only inside the group as much as they say among themselves, do they realize the Kabbalists advice to them.

11. S. (30:15) What does the convention's success depend on? We do not just want this to be an action of enjoyable connection, we want to be a connection of the heart.

R. If you make it in the heart, if you open the heart it will be an action of the heart.

12. S. (30:35) How important is it to come physically and how much can we influence the men?

R. I do not know about that. I think that anyone that can make it physically should make it physically in that it is better to come physically here you are a center because it influences a person more compared to sitting at home behind the screen.

13. S. (31:15) We feel that the whole world now depends on us. Do you  feel the concern of the men that the women also need to succeed in this convention?

R. Yes, men eagerly anticipate the success of women because it influences them greatly. There like in a family, a family determines the mood, the order of the family, everything. I'm asking to get organized like one woman relative to the men and you are able to change the world and will see you at the congress.