Morning Lesson August 19, 2023
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Rabash. Article No. 15, (1989). What Is, “The Righteous Become Apparent through the Wicked,” in the Work?
1. Rav’s Introduction: (20:55) I think it is clear right? The evil cannot be distinguished unless through the good, and the good only through the bad. Therefore ‘I have created the evil inclination, I have created of it the Torah, as a spice.’ Here we have two forces, two steps, measures; this is how we need to get to know one by the other.
2. S. (21:30) We read this article a while back and I have some notes. There is a place in the article where we wouldn’t read past, where we had to go through a stage, everyone had to go through it personally. Rabash continues the article there about the purpose of creation to do good to his created beings and how to spread it on all of creation. Suddenly I felt that there is a process here, there is a pace of progress and the connection that Baal HaSulam spoke about. You see it as one organism, one body all of creation and it's becoming more and more restricted. Meaning we're entering this process where we’re moving into connection as the Kabbalists are describing all the time, connection that's occurring between us and what the Creator is revealing; the same lack that was revealed that Rabash succeeded in describing everything that Kabbalists wrote that they revealed privately and succeeded to spread it to the whole world. So in this opportunity I wanted to give thanks that in privilege of your stubbornness and the lack, the burning lack you had you're simply showing us the correct path.
R. Thank you very much.
3. S. (23:56) He speaks in the article about the matter of righteous, that he wants to advance to them and thus we have the wicked, that they fall and descend and they have the sensation that they are between heaven and earth. I wanted to ask about this state, the more we will connect we’ll be able to see that there is no difference between states of ascents and descents, they begin to be balanced?
R. It's not that there is no difference but rather the ascents and descents will become more acute, more discernible.
S. And we’ll feel the descents as something that hates us or we will always throw that aside and we’ll feel between heaven and earth and that we're not okay?
R. Why is it bad for us? If we receive a blow and we are thrown from above down, if by that we begin to open up new vessels then we rise from below up.
S. No problem with that but will we know it comes from the Creator if we’ll be connected?
R. I can’t say so. If you don’t know what state you’re in then you don’t have the possibility to justify the Creator so then you feel the state itself more.
S. So to tie the states together it’s not so important? You’re saying that the more we connect, the states will be sharper and to tie them to the Creator is always a process that we can’t initially succeed in?
R. It is written that the Creator behaves with the righteous as within a hair's breath.
S. So connection will always help us receive sharper states? The more we connect the states and ascents and descents will be sharper?
R. More clear also.
4. S. (26:24) At the end of the article he writes that a person needs to protect himself, that what he's working for does not go to the externals. How does a person do this work so he's careful that no benefit will come to the external ones as it's written here?
R. He has to be connected to the ten, connected to the Creator, constantly trying to see the purpose of creation ahead of him, the goal.
S. But that's already a state as explained before that there is some work. We get to some lack and the reward of the work is the work itself right? You discover you're always giving all this work to the external ones, the benefit. So how do we help each other in the ten to keep pure, clean work and not think about our own benefit?
R. The reward for the work give to the friends, think that you want to give it to them.
S. I wish I could do that, how do I do such a thing?
R. Think, and then you will see that it is possible.
5. S. (28:05) When is man's main work, before the descent or after the descent has arrived?
R. In the ascents as well as in the descents we have work.
S. I’m just trying to understand what he wrote, that the purpose of descents is that a person will obtain all the NRNHY of his soul. So if I’ve already descended how will I even remember this? Maybe I should do something beforehand to get ready for it?
R. It's not going to help.
S. So what will?
R. Persistence. It doesn't matter what the state is, what is important is that I am there and I continue.
6. S. (28:54) He writes here about general and individual. He says one needs to work in the general and because he already exited the general he's left empty-handed from both sides and he can't return to the general public. What is this general public in the individual?
R. The general means not that he's not yet in the personal work.
S. So the work of the individual is that after his dissent he needs to rise more?
R. Individual work means he wants to reach a connection with the Creator and through his effort he wants to be able to determine the kind of connection he wants to achieve.
7. S. (29:47) Rabash writes in the article that all we lack is the greatness the Creator, that the Creator is the good that does good and loves His created beings. And His greatness is that we will see what how He treats our friends and all of creation and this will be our salvation?
R. We will see the Creator as governing us in the good and in the bad, in both of them. I don't want to explain more. We need to try to feel the Creator so that He will guard us, so that we are devoted to Him. That is all.
S. Our devotion is to be in His desire, meaning to love his created beings?
R. Yes, that too, all through that.
8. S. (31:22) How do we transition from good deeds to the intention of our actions?
R. Certainly there's a connection between one and the other and we do want to keep the actions as well as the intentions because by that we become incorporated in the Creator. What do we do? We come close as much as possible through the friends, we scrutinize both the intention as well as the action. We try to see how it emerges from the Creator, what is His intention and are we able to move along with Him in the same intention? This is how it is.
9. S. (32:48) In a state of ascent are we just waiting to enter a descent?
R. We are not waiting for an ascent to become a descent. How come, who needs that? We want from the ascent to continue to even greater and greater ascents. We're willing to see in the present ascent flaws as well and rise even higher.
10. S. (33:31) He writes if they want to add work they need to add in greatness of the Creator. I wanted to ask, what is the action that brings us additional greatness of the Creator each time? How do we add?
R. The ten. You can't see the greatness of the Creator more and more each time. Only the ten can awaken in you the feeling of the greatness of the Creator.
S. What do I need to do to add, to have greater greatness towards the ten? What's the action?
R. You have to subjugate yourself towards the friends and then you will receive from them more greatness of the Creator.
S. He writes specifically when there is a lack and he’s given fulfillment on the lack, he knows then to keep himself, that no benefit of this will come to the external ones. How do we keep ourselves, protect ourselves from this benefit?
R. That you constantly think about the greatness of the Creator and how much you want to see Him as even greater, even more as ruling everything. From these preparations, from these relations you'll be able to truly begin to also feel Him one time.
S. From this that I'm keeping myself not to receive from self-benefit?
R. That too.
S. I see that our main work in action is to be constantly in scrutiny.
R. Yes.
S. I'm constantly finding myself in scrutiny of what will give me the greatest benefit to myself. How do we transition from this scrutiny to what's described in all the writings of Rbash? He's constantly guiding us to be in the correct scrutiny but how to be in this correct scrutiny both as an individual and as a ten?
R. To adhere to the ten and yearn from the ten to be close to the Creator, where the Creator is actually the sum total of the ten. That’s it.
S. What do I need to choose every moment?
R. How much do you adhere to the ten, you have no other means.
S. To go back to the beginning, to adhere to the ten is how much I diminish myself?
R. Well if necessary then I diminish myself, yes.
11. S. (37:08) Why did the Creator create the will to receive if it's against His quality?
R. Why? It is the Creator who can do, who knows how to do everything that He needs to do for creation.
12. S. (37:30) Why before a person reaches the degree of righteous he has to reveal that he is wicked?
R. It's impossible to have one without the other because if one rises the other one falls, etcetera.
13. S. (37:47) What is a true descent and how to not be confused with normal corporal troubles?
R. It can't be that you'll confuse the two because all in all we measure ourselves towards the Creator, towards our faith in Him. Therefore we cannot get confused between whatever is happening with us here in this world and spirituality, it's impossible.
14. S. (38:28) What does it mean to measure towards the Creator?
R. We need to always see how the greatness of the Creator becomes established in me right now with each and every step along the way, and this is what we want to measure. In other words how every moment the greatness of the Creator enables me to be closer to Him, more bestowing.
15. S. (39:11) Why do Kabbalists say that a descent is already an ascent in spiritual work?
R. The feeling of the descent that we feel can truly be as an ascent because by that we recognize our true state, in what are we descending, where, why, etcetera.
16. S. (39:39) What does it mean a person must conceal his actions from others?
R. Yes, it is better if a person hides himself from others so as not to cause them confusion in order to guard them, to give them the possibility of freedom of choice, freedom of action. This is what he has to be concerned about, not to hinder the friends.
17. S. (40:19) What does it mean that a Creator hears the prayer of every mouth?
R. The Creator includes everything and we are all inside of Him. In order for us to get to know Him more and more, to adhere to Him, to feel Him, He is giving us all kinds of opposite discernments and this is how we need to see this game. All in all it is called the Creator playing with the whale, that our will to receive gets such exercises so that ultimately it begins to discern what is between us and the Creator, between each one and everyone and so on
18. S. (41:27) What is the revelation of the wicked in the ten?
R. In each one of us there is a part of the wicked and a part of the righteous. We need to sort both this and those until we reach a state where precisely by placing this opposite those we see the truth more clearly, we get clear discernments.
19. S. (42:05) The point in which the wicked are revealed in a person, he has nothing there. He has no force, no greatness of the Creator, no intention. So where's the greatness of the Creator that can obligate him to rise?
R. In each and every state a person can get such exercises.
S. He writes here in the article that it seemingly exists in him this greatness of the Creator, it’s what allows him to ascend from the descent. But when the wicked is revealed we don’t have any greatness of the Creator, right? So what does obligate us to rise?
R. That he must get there. There is a feeling and there is a desired reality.
S. What's the connection between greatness of the Creator and greatness of the righteous that he refers to in the article?
R. Greatness of the righteousness is to what extent does he recognize and feel the means that he has to get to the greatness of the Creator. This is called the greatness of the righteous in his eyes.
20. S. (43:25) In the ten there can be steady, constant roles of righteous and wicked?
R. Roles of righteous and wicked? I don't know about that.
S. We seemingly learn that we need to constantly justify the friend.
R. That's right but it's not that we come to a friend and say that for the next month you will act as a wicked for me.
S. Thanks to the friend though we would all advance right?
R. I'm not familiar with such thing but it's interesting. Okay so?
S. I don't know, I just had this thought. I didn't really have this question before but it's easy to see how the friends are righteous and justify them. The friends are really big but we need this additional force in the ten right? So how do we reveal, find this motivation from the other side?
R. I don't know. There is something to what you say but we need to get into serious work in getting closer to the friends and in scrutinizing the states between us so that I do not remain indifferent to anyone and I truly judge each and everyone either this way or that way. Well try it out, try.
21. S. (45:44) So regarding scrutiny of the states, how do we scrutinize the states out of a place of love, connection in the ten and not from the ego?
R. Well you need to connect between you and determine what is the goal, for what purpose you need the way are you advancing and how do you advance. Out of that you will feel what for and why.
22. S. (46:40) It turns out that there are two states. Either I see the friend I look at him and say he's wicked, he's doing something that's not in the right direction and I feel myself more righteous or that I find the wicked in myself and find that I'm not doing things so well, all sorts of things. What revelation of is he talking about here, external or internal?
R. He's talking about the wicked ones that are revealed in each and every person that seemingly stand in his way to the Creator and not let him get closer.
S. So in myself and not outside myself in others.
R. No, of course not, inside a person.
23. S. (47:40) This exercise sounds rather practical and good. Just to understand, what is the correct ideal state we should have? That I'm going one by one by the friends and see that I'm the wicked and they're the righteous, that's good? If I feel that all the friends are wicked and I'm the righteous one that's the state where I need to pray? Just to understand the opposite states.
R. Yes, actually yes.
24. S. (48:20) In these two states ultimately I need to reach some understanding with them right? Sometimes I feel like I'm righteous and sometimes I feel I'm wicked, I feel the Creator as pushing me up and down. What am I supposed to learn from this, I think I'm missing it. Where does He want to bring me?
R. First of all you need to try to understand where you. For what purpose do you go through these states, what state should they bring you to?
S. That's the question.
R. No, the main question is who is doing it to you.
S. The Creator, but again I’ll soon feel that everything is great and my friends are great and then again I'll feel that the friends are a zero. So it's constantly moving, light, darkness, light, darkness, up, down. What does He want from me, it's all repeating itself. Either I'll be indifferent to it and just say there's None Else Besides Him and just diminish myself like a fetus or be some partner in this because it just keeps repeating itself and I feel like a puppet on a string
R. What’s your purpose, what's your goal?
S. How much? This loop..
R. You're in some kind of loop right? You're being thrown from side to side but what is it that you want?
S. That everything will be good that there will be great light. I understand the game, He controls me and everything.
R. So the most important is that it will be good?
S. That’s not the goal, that everything will be good?
R. I don’t know, scrutinize it.
S. I can't seem to. I understand that He controls me. He moves me around, He throws me up and back and tomorrow He may throw me out again. I'm in his hands, He controls me, I say do what He wants, is that…?
R. Continue.
S. I feel like I'm missing something here. Can you give me some advice for this state?
R. You need to demand something out of your situation. Well, turn to the Creator and demand.
S. I'm demanding but He seemingly tells me that's the state.
R. Ask the friends to join you for this demand, they also have this question. This is called that you organize the prayer of the public. Why not?
S. I don't know what to demand. Just to stop with the ascents and descents?
R. If you want, if you think that it would be better if you would stop then let it stop.
S. I don't know. You tell me what's good.
R. What’s good? You need to scrutinize it, why should I tell you? You’re waiting for somebody to tell you what's good for you? There's no such thing. You have to scrutinize it and check and demand.
25. S. (52:14) He writes in a few places here that the when a person is in a lowly state that's the best state for a prayer.
R. Yes.
S. So I understand from this that we need to be in joy that we have such states where we feel lowly because we can come closer. But when a person practically feels a bit unwell I just find that I immediately fall into this state and don't know how to raise myself from it. So how to get the perspective and attitude that Rabash writes about, that to be lowly is a state that we can come closer with?
R. You have friends?
S. Yes I do.
R. Okay, so talk to them about it and ask them for advice. Each one of them also certainly wants to receive some advice from the others and then you will reach a certain connection. After a few such actions you will see how you come together in order to decide on something and already you will have here a place for a common action.
S. We talk about it constantly in the society, we talk about it with other Tens and Rabash writes about it. Still when the state comes I can't seem to establish the correct attitude, even when I hear friends speak about it and I read about it in the articles.
R. Why? So they actually reach it but you don't manage to tie yourself to them? So try to annul. Seemingly it doesn't matter what will happen this time, you are giving it a chance. You want to be annulled towards them, that's it but try it with all your heart, that He will help you to annul.
26. S. (55:00) I wanted to ask about the work of the general and the work of the individual. This is work that happens on the level of the person or it happens on the level of the ten?
R. Both. On the level of the individual it's each one of us with respect to the ten and on the level of the general it’s that all of us let's say are subjugated and connected towards the Creator.
S. How does this transition take place from the place he writes, from the general where you operate in order to receive a reward to the work of the individual where you work in order to give Him contentment? What is this transition that happens that you begin to operate to give contentment to the Creator?
R. And beforehand?
S. You operate in order to get a reward.
R. And then the reward turns into giving contentment to the Creator.
S. That's clear. I'm just asking about the transition. You have to transition to the work of the general, right? You can't jump directly to the work of the individual. I’m asking about the transition from the general to the individual. How do we make it happen, how do we bring it?
R. You work in connection with others in order to reach the degree of the individual it's called. That's it and then it happens, you seemingly rise one degree up, ten becomes one.
S. What I don't manage to grasp is how does the work that I do in connection with the friends suddenly bring me an intention to bestow contentment upon the Creator with every action?
R. According to your intentions.
S. But how do you control the intentions, how do they change?
R. Write this, that each one tries to protect the others, keeps the others. That we want all of us together to be connected and that in our actions we’ll give contentment to the Creator.
S. And we can control this intention? Because I see that it's not something that comes out of you naturally, to give contentment to the Creator.
R. Alone surely not. Try for it to be truly in the mind and heart of each one and then you'll see how you get closer to it but try to do it actively, in practice.
27. S. (58:34) Why should a person be incorporated with all the bad in the world, all the good in the world and it's all inside of me. Why should I include both of them, all of them? Tell me.
R. In order to be Adam, to be a man.
S. Once I am Adam how can I love the One who loves because He truly loves all of us and I want to love Him.
R. Pray that you will be given love.
S. After we pray, what happens dear teacher?
R. I don't know what happens, then you will feel.
S. Can we say that the whole world is the emotion or the feeling of the Creator?
R. Yes, yes.
28. S. (01:00:06) In the article it says that a person stands between heaven and earth. What is this condition exactly, what does it mean?
R. It is free choice and we need to choose. Where does our heart incline towards, where is our heart’s tendency?
29. S. (01:00:41) I heard it is preferable for a person to hide his actions from others so as not to confuse them, so that his actions won't confuse the friends but beforehand we talked about the matter of the gift. So which actions should we hide from others and which ones should we reveal? How can I give a person an example if I have to hide myself, what exactly should I hide?
R. I think we don't need to conceal so much from one another or anything, rather our actions, our correct actions for connection to come closer, that we need to reveal.
30. S. (01:01:32) How is the deficiency built, in the state of a righteous or in the state of the wicked? It seems like a person should be in both states simultaneously in order for the deficiency to be built.
R. Correct. The lack needs to be built both on the side of the righteous and from the side of the wicked.
31. S. (01:02:02) The wicked exist with respect to the person not with respect to the Creator. If we invest in adhesion with the Creator in the descents as well as the ascents we will still need to discover the righteous through the wicked? In adhesion with the Creator are there still wicked?
R. As much as we will advance in adhesion with the Creator there will be in us more righteous and more wicked in contradiction to one another.
32. S. (01:02:42) How nevertheless can we correctly distinguish between righteous and wicked that are revealed?
R. Whoever wants to justify the Creator is called righteous, whoever can’t is called wicked.
33. S. (01:03:15) I heard that there is no righteous in the land that did not sin. What kind of prayer should he do in order not to quit the study, the work, despite all the bad states that come to us?
R. That all that is revealed enters our prayer for progress, that we want to rise above all disturbances one by one.
34. S. (01:03:50) He she writes here that it's impossible to give a feeling without a lack because a person would not know how to keep it so that the shells won't not take it from giving to their domain because from that the shells can profit and sanctity will be harmed; then he writes that precisely when one has a lack and he’s giving a filling, the lack he knows how to be careful so that no benefit will come out of this to the external ones, so the righteous doesn't become complacent or pleased with himself when he reaches, when he gets a lack, but rather he remembers it and he knows how to use that state of wicked one in order to keep himself in balance and keep advancing, is this what it means?
R. Yes, yes.
35. S. (01:04:40) On what depends the scrutiny between the state of righteous and the state of wicked, in what depends the scrutiny between the state of righteous and the state of wicked; what do we do when we don't feel either in the state of wicked or we don’t feel the state of righteous?
R. Then you still don't have what to do because you don't have scrutinies yet..
36. S. (01:05:04) The righteous ones and the wicked ones are discerned as ascents and descents inside of me and also the way that I see my friends in the Ten is wicked or righteous?
R. Yes and it slowly changes, gradually it slowly changes.
37. S. (01:05:37) Do the connections in the Ten create a feedback loop that links the correction of the general to the correction of individuals?
R. Of course, of course.
38. S. (01:05:59) A friend feels bad that there is a deficiency in the Ten. Can he pray that the Creator will change the state in the Ten or should he pray that the Creator will change the state inside of him?
R. No, for the Ten. Only in him?, he doesn't exit his ego that way.
39. S. (01:06:42) I think the friend was asking, should the friend pay for the external change in the Ten or the internal changing inside of him in his relation to the Ten?
R. The change in himself, if that was the question yes. Changing himself towards the Ten.
40. S. (01:07:03) no translation
R. Actions help to scrutinize the intention and the intentional all in all pushes forward.
41. S. (01:07:44) We scrutinize how to help each other to reach faith above reason?
R. By examples, although we can’t truly give examples of it but some external examples we give. How a person behaves if he is in tendency, in inclination to reach faith above reason.
42. S. (01:08:23) Our good qualities are merits and also our self love are always inside of us. How can we remind ourselves about it all the time, to be aware of it so it will facilitate the transition from reception to bestowal?
R. Only by actions one towards the other, one towards the group, only in such a manner can we help and aid one another with these actions.
43. S. (01:09:09) The article says that we're giving the evil to rise higher by 320 degrees to achieve the wealth. Who is rising? Is it the Ten or the entire human race? What is the wealth that is being acquired?
R. The Ten rises and human kind surely does not because it doesn't even demand it, it's not in this process, so the Ten.
S. And what is the wealth that the Ten is acquiring?
R. We begin to feel that we rise and come closer to the Creator;’re we understanding more, or feeling the system of creation.
44. S. (01:10:18) In the book it says that through the descents one can advance to the reason of holiness so what is the reason of holiness and how do we advance through the reason of Torah?
R. As much as we want to understand the actions of the Creator in order to justify them then we come closer to the mind of holiness, of Kedusha.
45. S. (01:11:09) That's an old allegory about two wolves that fight inside a person, one wolf is bad the other wolf is good, according to the article we read, the war between the wicked and righteous inside of the person, doesn't stop for a moment and the triumph of the righteous for depends only on how much does the person appreciate the quality of bestowal and the greatness of the goal so, what should we the students of BB should do so that the righteous will always defeat the wicked ones?
R. We need to respect the opinion of the kabbalist forces as much as possible and on this will win, so let's go.
46. S. (01:12:13) What is the difference in the building of the building of the prayer through the wicked and the righteous if both states are given to me from the Creator and I have to accept both states with an attitude of gratitude?
R. We need to accept each and every state as it is but to what state we want to reach to, rise to?That’s already our choice, and here we need to reveal what is our goal.
S. So in any case we have to start with gratitude and then scrutinize what’s missing?
R. If I don't respect, appreciate and raise thanks to the Creator in every state that I'm in, it’s a sign that this state has no good goal, that cannot be. I'm in a system that is entirely aimed to a good goal.
47. S. (01:13:34) What is the more correct work, if I take my state of wicked to the Ten or if I work on it by myself?
R. Both, we can't really say.
S. Because when you bring it to the Ten there's a feeling of shame, as if you're in a descent?
R. That is also true but it's also correct.
48. S. (01:14:19) Before we advance in the connection between us there is a feeling of infinite concern and support from the friends in the Ten, when I'm concerned with is everything depends on me and I need to do the work so how can I work with a friend so that I don't make, drill a hole in the boat, how can I truly love them without the desire to receive something in return?
R. We need to correctly describe the purpose of creation to ourselves, where there, we’re all connected and are in one connection, one heart, in a state that we cannot differentiate between us and thus we are advancing towards that same state.
49. S. (01:15:21) What does it mean to be a righteous one?
R. To justify the Creator in all his actions. That is called to be righteous
S. So what is the addition you can make in this work to be righteous?
R. That he takes everything that occurs in order to justify the creation.
50. S. (01:16:03) If I see my friends as great and they see that the Creator isn't taking care of them right, is that the work of the individual or the collective?
R. It's not work, it's the determination of the state. Work begins after you decide what you want to happen.
S. I want to take care of them in the right way. I want to see them corrected.
R. Wonderful, raise your demand to Him and then it’s called and you enter His system.
S. So that's private work or the common work?
R. Private, it is yours.
51. S. (01:16:57) This work, is it better to develop a habit or is it always new work?
R. Can't hear you well
S. Is it better in both states to develop a habit or always new work?
R. Every time it is new work.
52. S. (01:17:31) The wicked, is happiness for deficiency and the righteousness is the happiness of gratitude so we always remain in a deficiency?
R. There's something to that, yes.
53. S. (01:17:52) Is a descent does it come as a result of a punishment that we missed out on an opportunity?
R. Doesn't have to be. Ascents and descents, we don’t know how to evaluate properly. But descents are for the sake of the ascent and this is why you can't ascent without descending. What we need to do is to see how much we're getting in all these situations and the opportunity to join it in the right way through the Ten.
54. S. (01:19:11) What is the action of justifying it’s just gratitude or something else?
R. This is all that emerges as a result of this emotion.
55. S. (01:19:30) We have very special preparation for this lesson because friends decided they needed to be together, they traveled for more than 4 hours in the cars just to have this meeting to be in this lesson and the moment actually the lessons started there was huge impression of greatness, greatness of our connection, greatness of the Creator and immediately happens then is that immediately the hart jumps, the heart wants to bring this back this impression to the Creator. My question is well, what also is happening at this point when this happens then actually the friends become like angels and the person himself feels like he’s the only one that can act; would you consider this like a prayer of the wicked or?
R. Today we are in a certain special connection, special between us. I don't go into it to understand why it's happening but today there's something special. Why does that happen? Believe me I can't answer, but there is a millimeter, I don't know how much deeper inside each one is in the others, it’s really felt and it is really nice. I don't know who is to blame here probably the Creator and we will try to use this state and to be closer even closer to each other
S. Because there's another question here: how to bring this impression to a state where the friends of no angels anymore where we're like one organism, when we're together actively?
R. Try, it all depends on each one's inner effort and all of your efforts together, only the effort, don't disregard it and don't be lazy, even though it seems what can it be? Yes, this all yields benefits coming closer.
56. S. (01:23:00) When the Creator gives a person this work he brings him down to the degree of the wicked and gives him the ability to demand that he raises him that he develops us. How can a person agree to this process? What can he add of himself? What can each of us in the work of the Creator? What can we add?
R. To add what you feel, what the Creator wants of everyone, that is what we should add of ourselves.
S. Meaning through the Ten to try and add work?
R. Through everyone, not only through the Ten and the group. Through everyone that takes part.
S. The general soul?
R. Yes.
57. S. (01:24:21) During the descents everything is erased and it's a very important time in our work, we feel the dependency on the friends, so how to come out of descents correctly?
R. Through connection to the friends, connect back to the friends.
58. S. (01:24:56) It is written here in the first line, the Creator will give every righteous the 310 worlds with all their Treasures. What are those 310 worlds?
R. I guess it's everything you should give each and everyone.
S. Is it connected to 620 Commandments?
R. Let's not go into that because we don't understand what that is. Soon we’ll come to that, we’ll get it and then we will examine if it's 310 or more or less.
59. S. (01:25:51) On our degrees do we have freedom of choice or does it just seem like that?
R. In what?
S. When we pray gratitude it’s us doing it or the Creator is doing it upon us?
R. If the Creator is doing it to us in a way that we don't take any part of it we are not considered to exist at all, when we’re simply components of creation like this still vegetative and animate that work by their instincts by the law and the more we learn about it we know in advance what response every species will have, the way we’re affected so there's a question here are we like that or can we act differently? When is it different? When the Creator that created us he gave us some freedom that we can add more or less to all our actions to all our deeds to all our prayers. So that's your question right? what is your question?
S. That is what I'm asking, if we have that choice or not? at least an hour degrees, so it's all the Creator doing? even what seems to us that he's taking us through this movie, teaching us, developing us, raising us, all under his account, like babies?
R. What’s the difference? Let's say you're looking at a small child. When it's clear to you how he’ll respond in each and every state and on behalf of the child that is not clear, he sees every state and decides in what way to respond, to cry, to shout, to break, be happy so what's the difference? Tell me what , think.do you think, what do your friends think.
S. Maybe I’ll ask the friends, I don't know.
60. S. (01:29:03) Do we need to scrutinize between us where the freedom is? Where our choice is? This scrutiny that we need that we need to do in the Ten or? How do we reach the understanding, where are we free? Where can we give our gratitude?
R. How do we usually need to decide right?
S. According to what the friends say.
R. According to what the friends say, that’s wise but also, so there's no answer, certainly as Owen said we need to give the answer according to the friends, that is how if we cancel to the society in the society we discover the view, the general view, the general notion which is the Creator and we go according to that.
S. So the work will always be opposite, always opposite?
R. What is opposite?
S. I want, I don't know something sweet, so I have to ask the friends if they seem something bitter I have to take the bitter so it's always above my reason, always?
R. It's always above your reason and it's correct if then you taste and you see it's not bitter it’s sweet.
S. So it means that I wanted to eat sweets and I wanted chocolate. I went to the friends and they said no, have a tomato, I ate the tomato and now I feel it’s sweet, the first desire that was felt through them?
R. Yes. you replace your vessels and you fill a new flavor in them.
61. S. (01:31:41) When we read the article the feeling of the wicked and righteous I felt it's something internal then it's concerning one of the friends so where can I justify the wicked in me and turn him into a righteous for the sake of the friends so I can bring only the good into the Ten?
R. Ask again.
S. He says you fill the wicked and righteous as something in him, so he's asking how to turn the wicked in him into a righteous in order to bring only good to the friends?
R. Only through prayer. Only through prayer, he basically doesn't know what will be good, what will be bad. He's not certain about his discernment and also, in his choice, all in all a prayer to the Creator so that the Creator will place everything correctly, we have no one to count on but on our father in the heavens.
S. That’s what I wanted to ask, that many times I have a fear from this state of the wicked. Many times I can't overcome or manage him so I wanted to ask how to work with that state?
R. Simply keep on going, the more you’ll open your heart, soften it and it will happen, it will happen.
S. Always thank you for everything you're doing for me for the 10th for the Italian Kli.
62. S. (01:34:30) You said that the common opinion in the friends of the Ten that is the Creator. How can we read that, make that common opinion so it really will be the Creator?
R. If you want to connect as it's written as one man in one heart, by that you're building the Creator as the verse goes: “You have made me… the Creator doesn't exist, actually the Creator doesn't exist, the Creator, the meaning in Hebrew is come and see, meaning if we want to connect between us the sum total of our connection will be the Creator.
S. All the friends want to connect in the Ten, in the world group, we gather, we write prayers, we discuss something. Sometimes we do reach a common opinion but how does that reach the Creator? how to concentrate this so it’ll really become the Creator?
First of all we're coming close to that, secondly we have to understand that this thing is getting, it’s been cooked and it takes time, time means each and everyone is performing inside himself more and more personal scrutinies and it seems to me that we're coming closer, we're coming closer.
63. S. (01:36:35) First I exchange the vessels, then I get new flavors in them? Or first I get new flavors and then that formulates in new vessel?
R. So how does he get new flavors if he doesn't change his vessels?
S. Right it's clear that the upper one enters him and changes him but, what you answer the friend earlier in practice, the content itself, I don't know to ask…
R. Come on, come on, it doesn't matter.
S. First there is a person or me. I need to exchange my vessels in order to accept new flavors in them and then I can feel them or does the light enter with new flavors burst in and forces my vessels to reformulate?
R. Both.
S. In parallel?
R. In parallel, and one after the other; the question is who causes what? it is very simple, you can't feel any change if it won't be the action of the lights.
S. So from the lower one is this away from the upper one, is it that way?
R. Yes, guys let's move on.
64. S. (01:38:10) I heard you saying we advance another millimeter towards connection?
R. Yes, and the need for connection, it's not connection itself it's the need for connection. Any drop in the hearts of each and everyone so that whatever happens we have to be more connected.
S. What is the right response for such a feeling? What should be the order of actions on our behalf to help this thing?
R. To open ourselves, to open ourselves to come closer to the friends. To the friends coming closer to Him.
S. What should be the relationship with the Creator, to give gratitude for it?
R. The Creator will always aid us in what we decide to come closer.
S. So here he gave us this extra millimeter. What should we do now towards him?
R. Could try for to be carried out, I’m the first and I’m the last. That's how it happens.
S. Thank for it, to ask that everyone will feel it?
R. Of course.
S. Is there an order of actions that we need to do?
R. Well of course, there is an order of actions but to start with it will be only confusing for us.
S. It is like where put on the road now how should we deviate now?
R. Yes.
65. S. (01:40:05) Yesterday I tried to do this I won't pray for the friends correction I will just bless the Creator and I started blessing and thanking the Creator and I understood it's not a true gratitude, you're still come back to the fact that you're not corrected and then the gratitude falls. I feel that there’s still something in this, in that work. How, is that action right?
R. Try on. I can't go into these matters.
66. S. (01:41:07) How to love the friends and the Creator truly and not by force?
R. Open your heart and stop making these calculations. This is considered that you're ready for love.
S. How to stop making the calculations? I'm constantly thinking is it worth canceling to Him why is the Creator doing this, why is He forcing me?
R. Yes, what to do? Prayer, you have nothing to do.
S. What should the prayer be?
R. For the heart to change, to open, to connect to others. Otherwise nothing will happen. We have to return to one heart, everyone, everyone.
S. How to reach that prayer, how to reach that request that truly wanted?
R. Try to come to that and you’ll feel that you want it but you can't and from that you’ll have a prayer; a prayer comes out of two opposite things that you really want to connect.
S. So I have to expect the result or is it a calculation again?
R. A result.
S. What is the result?
R. The prayer, in the prayer, what you want.
S. The result of the prayer has to be what I want?
R. Yes, otherwise what kind of a prayer is that? Is it your prayer? I don't understand you?