Oren Levy (OV): The Ninth of Av, ""Legend of destruction."" I saw a trailer for a new movie that consists of the 1,500 paintings telling the story of the destruction of the Second Temple. Watching the trailer filled me with fear and tremendous frustration: as if there is a story of the unfounded hatred that repeats itself in this nation and we can't get rid of. Everyone can tell you that our number one enemy is ourselves. The screwed up relations between us is the biggest danger, more than Iran, more than Hamas, more than everything but we can't stop the deterioration. What's wrong? Why can't we? Dr. Laitman (DL): First of all, we don't have Moses, our patriarch. OV: When you come to think about it, his life wasn't sugar either. DL: What he had, he had. He told the nation to be good, and in his presence the nation properly followed the corrections. OV: So is it a problem of leadership? DL: First and foremost, the problem is that we don't want a leader that will tell us that we have to be good, that we have to be closer to each other. That's why we're not getting this leader. OV: Look, Dr. Laitman, without beating around the bush, any leader that comes to power in their inauguration speech the first thing they talk about is that we have to unite the nation, that our separation is the greatest danger. Everyone repeats the same mantras. Why aren't we doing it in practice? DL: It has to become a law, the law of the nation. OL: That's beautiful. What's the first law? DL: A good attitude toward each other. You learn how to do it. It has to be on TV, it has to be on different other networks, and the newspapers, everywhere. Everywhere you hear about our commitment to connection. OL: So what does this law say? DL: It says that I have to try, as much as I can, to come closer to the other person and understand him and help him, and give an example, and he has to do the same toward me. OL: It is a matter of attitude. DL It is, and we have to oblige this by law. OL: How can you force me to relate nicely to others? DL: What do you tell your children? OL: Treat each other nicely. DL: How can you tell them that? OL: This is how I'd like for things to be. DL: Ah, good. So what are you are going to do to make it that way? OL: I can talk to them about it, I can give them examples, I can explain why is it important. DL: Please, do the same in the nation. So it's not just to pass a law and go to sleep. OL: What do you mean to pass a law? Everyone wants to keep it but no one does. DL: And everyone has to keep it but no one can promise that. You need to gradually instill this law in the masses. OL: Look, the example with the family is a good one because it shows the problem. In the family, there is myself and my wife. We, the parents, look at the children from above and because we love everyone, we want for them to treat each other nicely. Obviously, this would be good for them and we understand that we have to advance them toward that. So it's a single unit, and my love and concern embraces all of them. In the nation, you have separations, camps, denominations, each wanting to eat the other's head off. So we don't have a kind of parental responsibility, some factor that loves and hugs everyone, leading them toward connections. So how will it happen? DL: It will happen gradually through a series of laws and customs. OL: So what will be that value that we have to wash ourselves with? DL: Until we reach love another as yourself. We have to understand that we have no other choice. That is the supreme law of nature. That is how we have to accept it. It has nothing to do with religion or anything else. It's simply the law of nature. OL: You talked about customs. That's beautiful. You said laws and customs. What custom would you give us? DL: Something that can start guiding us in that direction of a good attitude toward each other. That anything that I show others that does not abide by this law, that isn't in this direction, then the public comes and condemns me for it. OL: And what are they going to praise? DL: The opposite. Those that try as much as they can to make an example out of themselves. OL: And if it's hard for a person? DL: Hard is fine. Along with the hardship, we will actually respect those people, not because they can keep the law but because they try to.