We are here, the women's team that was built especially for the women congress. We have women from women's organization, we have Osnat who is a content lady and of course we have Shelley who is a leading content woman here with us.  We've been working on the content of the congress on a daily basis for the last week and a half and you've approved the name: “Realizing the dream together”. so we would like to ask you a few questions.

As Tahel said the name is “Realizing the dream together, this name gives a feeling as if it's something very big that  we want you are longing for, of a longing that is built for many years in many women and in all of us, We would like to ask how to reach state in this congress that not each one will have her own personal dream.of how she real imagines the realization but to connect all these personal dreams into one dream this voice

Rav: Which is?

Sigal: Which is, is also a question. What is the dream? Each one… maybe, we were talking between us, what does each one is dreaming about? Does she want to come into spirituality? Does she wants a beautiful world? each one and how she perceives this.

Rav:  What is the goal?
Sigal: Are you asking about the goal of the Congress?

Rav: Yes.
Sigal: That's something we really wanted to ask you.What is the uniqueness….

Rav: So you throw all these questions at me? I am left without any answer

Tahel: more connection between women please Shelley.

Shelley: From what we felt the goal of the congress in its practical way is to rich common prayer to be able to connect all the efforts all the dreams all the desires everything that the woman has in her into a one desire into one vessel truly to do it in the congress and during the congress constantly discern what is the near step that is close to us what is that next step

Rav:  we constantly study this is for a sake to reach for her sake we have nothing more to talk about nothing more to yearn for and what we want to see ourselves in is eventually to reach for her sake

Shelly: For her sake is our closest step for the women's group?

Rav : It is the closest to all of us and only that.
Shelly: And what is in practise the most practical step that we could do we must do?

Rav:  I would say connection how do we reach salvation?  and that that we are see these things correctly with you this things correctly in order to be stole is what we need to acquire and in that refused The Creator and ourselves with him together
Shelly: at the moment what do you say the woman's group is missing what would you like doing this congress to put pressure on the disk is the point that demands for realization the most

Rav:To put into each and every woman this knowledge the to reach for her sake he's the clothes the nearest and the furthest go and in general

Norma: So in relation to that we have all the conditions to attain spirituality so what's preventing us from connecting and to rise to the new degree

Rav: Preventing us is that we don't understand how important this is.

Shelly:  In order to come into for her sake do we need to try to visualize it, to activate the imagination, the heart, how do we use these tools?

Rav: The heart, the mind to activate it in order to depict to ourselves, what does it mean to be living in the state of for her sake, in order to bestow, in connection, in love, in devotion. of all of us in this state of for her sake.
Lena: You are saying in this congress we can truly imaginate all of us together what is that degree to do workshops together

Rav: This we need to do it yes this is something we need to describe to everyone what is the matter of her sake why is our state nowadays called not for her sake and what to do in order to transition for to move ourselves from the state of not heard back to the state of first take

Shelly: What is the special tool that a woman has that will advance her quicker to the state of for her sake that she needs to acknowledge.

Rav: To talk about the state of her sake as much as possible to depict to ourselves, all of us, what does it mean to be in the state of for her sake that it is bestowal that it is in order to connect that it is in order for you to talk to the Creator from our connection.

Shelly: From where can we draw some sort of an inspiration, an example of how the reality in the state of for her sake looks like?

Rav: By us talking about it, it will be clearer for us, what does it mean to be in this reality of for her sake.

Tahel: We are obviously talking about something which is very internal but we are in a very special period in the world what is the importance of such a congress and if we will do the internal work of forsaken such a congress what could it be it's influence on the whole world

Rav: The influence should be as great as possible as wide as possible because only on this topic we can make a change in the reality in the world by ourselves from inside of us
Sigal: How to take this opportunity that all the women's tens in the world and the whole woman vessel, how to take this opportunity that we have the time for the preparation until the congress, how can we take all the things that you are saying here that it'll burn in us. We are all in the morning lesson, we go over it, we talk about it but there is some sort of power that we need to tighten even more. Is it only by talking between ourselves? how to intensify this point, this understanding?

Rav: This is in a conversation between you. to the extent that I will talk about it, it will not be enough. But when you give each other examples, by that we will all succeed. we will all come into the expectation of for her sake. To the extent that this state would be depicted in us as a living state, that we need to live in it. that in all of our strength to try to help each other. All of us together to come out of not for her sake to for her sake
Sigal:In a person there is always this point that says: later or some sort of a doubt that sometimes that it sounds like a great thing however lately everytime you speak it is felt as if it is reachable, close to us, that this is next in line and that there is nothing else in line at the moment

Rav: correct

Sigal:The question is how to get

Rav: to bring it closer, how to bring it closer to the heart of the woman. I think that it is by constantly talking about it, constantly chewing it until it will be absorbed in us more and more from all kinds of words, sentences, half sentences and so forth. This thing is hard to digest.

Sigal: If you were describing it as something like lollipop that you give to a child that it's this sweet taste that we would want it how would you describe it to us

Rav: That's by us achieving for her sake we start to taste the upper world, the spiritual world, the spiritual reality. that we begin to feel ourselves in the upper world.
Norma: How do you see that the congress can help all of us come to this urgency, because it seems that there is a very dedicated woman vessel to the path. How can we feel on the flesh that there is no time to wait that it needs to be today, now and how can the congress help us in that?

Rav: From the first lesson of the wisdom of Kabbalah and until the end of correction this topic of coming out from not for her sake to for her sake is the only topic, there isn't more than that. 

Norma: how to practically realize this and how can this special event can help us to reach this understanding and to this internal demand? 

Rav: That we are all the time talking only on that. Not to leave this topic ever.

Sigal: Many times that I heard you say that there is a very strong potential and force in the women's group that when it does one step it affects the whole BB group

Rav:  Yes, I also talked about that. that all the women need to be also ready to be in this direction to advance from not for her sake to for her sake, to advance from in order to receive to in order to bestow, from separation to connection.
Shelly: It sounds like you are attributing a lot of force and importance to speaking. That we should speak about it. why? What is it about speaking?

Rav: It is important to men and even more important to women. That we hear every time how much it is important for us to reach for her sake and then we are all impressed by it more and more, whether we want to or we don't. This is how we are being educated. In the meantime I see that these words are pretty dry and they don't reach our hearts.
Shelly: So how do we  truly make them more moist, closer, more exciting?

Rav: Well you tell me. I think that it is by talking, that each time more and more and more we are connecting to these definitions.
Lena: We even thought of doing some sort of a game. Can that help? a game where you imagine or you act the next degree.

Rav: Yes of course you can.

Sigal: Is there a critical point that all the efforts and everything that we will talk about that then something happens or is it some sort of a process, that you come into for her sake?

Rav: It is a process, that we are coming closer. Initially it looks unreal what are these dry words not for her sake for her sake. However later more and more it is clear to us that we begin to see behind these words the two forms of reality: in order to receive or in order to bestow and this is how we are coming closer.
Sigal: And also in fact I can think about it to hear the friends speak but all of the time I think about it that there is a total mutual dependency that we are depending on each other and no one will advance a centimeter if he won't be concerned about his friends.

Rav: Correct.

Sigal: So how… I don't even know how to ask the question, that it is the importance of the understanding that first of all there is mutual dependency that I can’t come in to this alone, nobody can come in by himself

Rav: correct
Sigal: How much it is important that… What do I need to want for my friends exactly? What is this mutual dependency?

Rav: That we will learn from each other and to the extent that we can bestow upon each other, to this extent we will advance. The main thing is that the person will see that he has to be wrapped with friends and that is the only way to advance.

Shelly: With women, I don't know how it is with men, with women there are very big gaps in the 10 in relation to the goal, in the free time they have, in the family state and it can give a bit of a feeling of  helplessness in relation to this mutual dependency that Sigal was talking about .What is the correct way to relate to this into believing that it doesn't matter how I see the friends or it doesn't matter that we're all in different status but we will give each other whatever the other needs in order to reach for her sake.

Rav: We need to talk about it more, we need to depict to ourselves this state of for her sake and in that way, out of the habit, out of imagining this. This is how we will attain it.

Sigal:  What would you like that will happen in this congress that the women are gathering and all this preparation and everything that we talked about now that we will publish workshops, we will try like you suggested to talk a lot. What do you expect that will happen?

Rav:  I expect that women would give an example, how to come out of not for her sake to for her sake because it is written that only thanks to righteous women Israel came out of Egypt This is exactly what we are talking about to come out of not for her sake to for her sake.

Tahel: Gilad would you like to ask the question

Rav: Who? me?
Gilad: No no I am enjoying every moment.

Tahel:  Maybe Gilad would like to ask a question Rav.

Gilad: There was a question: what would the men do during the women congress? I think the best thing is that they will sit and watch it.

Rav: They will learn, they will learn from them. What does the sentence say: thanks to righteous women Israel, men, that is, came out of Egypt. Well, we are expecting for this to happen.

Lena: In such a congress of 2 hours can we only come closer to the goal or can we actually break through some sort of a feeling of complacency

Rav: It all depends how you organize this. To light up everyone to raise from not for her sale to for her sake is possible. 

Sigal: Do the men depend on saying the example from the women? can they not do it without an example from the women?

Rav: To the extent that they cannot believe in it, they are depending on it.

Tahle: is our next degree, with everything we said, is that the woman does that small olive compared to what she did before in the understanding and in the importance of that tiny little thing she added in corporeality and to everything else that happens around and everything that she gives. This addition together is already giving us some sort of a change which is kind of a small big change? 

Rav: Yes, yes. Well, Norma wanted to ask all the time.

Norma: Question, yes. With what feeling should we as women come out of the Congress?

Rav: With the feeling of for her sake. That all our lives are to what extent that we can bestow upon each other… and in that we correct the world. The woman is at fault that the world is so acoustical and broken she was the one that caused the sin. Why are you quiet?

Norma:  because upon us is the responsibility for… according to what you are saying…

Rav: Correct, correct. That is what is written in the Torah, so please do it. The poor men followed the woman and she brought them to the sin and now she needs to take them out of this sin. okay?

Norma: We will do the job, but the man can also fall into complacency…

Rav: What complacency I feel like crying when I talk about such things, what women caused the world…

Shelly: How does a group of women who comes to for her sake influence the world?

Rav: It influences the world in a cardinal way, how to say it? in a total way, truly. Like we see now nevertheless after all it is hidden but it needs to be revealed to what extent the women are in charge of what is happening in the world.

Sigal: I just want it to be sharp and clear the mean to come out to for her sake is through love of friends. Is that the only mean?

Rav: through love of friends and through working on partners. Truly so, to pressure to pressure on your husbands in order to bring them into mutual bestowal, for her sake. That behind each man stands a woman and obligates him to do the correction. 

Sigal: That means encourage him towards love of friends? That is the meaning?

Rav: Yes, in everything similarly when you take a small child, your son to school, to everywhere you bring him and talk to him what does he need to do, how to behave the same thing you need to do with your man. Okay?

Lena: We also have a half an hour lesson with you at the beginning of the congress so that it will be as early as possible. So how do you see this half an hour?

Rav: That women are waking up, raising, getting up from the descent, the fall, the wickness, frustration and begin to work. During all of this egoistic history the woman was hidden in the human society. She needs to get out and actively work and draw behind her all of humanity. Similarly to a family where the woman does everything and runs the household and everything depends on her and if she doesn't do it then the house is neglected and the man doesn’t know what to do in his life in the same way it needs to be in the entire world’s household.

Shelly: What is the psychological change that the woman needs to do in order to understand how much she is critical to the correction and like you say to come out of all the frustrations, all of this marching in the same place and to act?

Rav: So what is the problem?

Shelly: It is like it's a conceptual change that doesn’t yet exist within women, how do you make this twist so that they will truly feel the responsibility?

Rav: Because they are comfortable. They are comfortable that the men are… the world was created because the sin of the tree of knowledge, the world became manly, the world became that it stands on the male force, on the force of the arm, the force of the arm and here we need to understand that this have to be in a different way. Women need to understand that now is their time, that they will participate in building the new world, if that doesn't happen we will go into world war.

Norma: so we need to understand, to feel is more correct to say, not only to understand not only in the brain, that we are depending on each other

Rav:  You are depending on each other, you are depending on everything that happens in the world and YOU CAN, you can change the order. The woman needs to be greater and the world needs to exist for the Nukva. Nukva surrounds the male. 

Sigal: I actually.. You said here, very sharp things, that I have the feeling that all the society needs to hear this conversation. Men and women, there are very important things here that are essential and substantial…

Gilad: I have notified everyone that we will send them the link.

Sigal: Thank you Gilad.

Gilad: It is simply felt, yes.

Rav: The role of the woman is to correct the world. Yes, in for her sake. And there is about it many saying many sources, how much it is important. It all begins from: hear what Sarah tells you, and then everything that goes with Avraham it goes according to what Sarah dictates the correction.

Tahel: One moment, it is just that from what comes out here, is the name of the congress shouldn’t be “The role of the woman in correcting the world for her sake” instead of “Realizing the dream together”? What we came up with originally.

Rav: Yes, it's not together at all, it’s the role of the woman in correcting the world

Tahel: For her sake?

Rav: For her sake. Okay?

Shelly :In regards to study materials. Rav, do you prefer if we bring a few excerpts tp the talk with you? A few excerpts from the sources and you will relate to them?  

Rav: Let it be like that. Of course we need excerpts from the sources. With Rabash we won't find many articles that practically speak about the woman. So what we have you need to dig it up. 

Norma: How to bring this topic closer as it sounds so big? How to bring it closer to each one and to all of us together for the correction of the world?

Rav: To think, how do you make a new order in the world? That each and everyone starting from families to force the men, to say it out loud what needs to be, how does the world needs to be in order to bestow and so forth. That's it, Nukva revolves the male.

Sigal: I have a rude request, I apologize if it is out of place, because of what I have heard here and of what you said that you are crying from what you are seeing, maybe we need to do a lesson on Saturday or some other time, the entire society, and do workshops about it and to talk with the verses that it was all because of the sin…

Rav: Excellent, excellent I agree, bring the material, okay?

Sigal: Thank you, yes.

Rav: good luck all the best I hope I have elevated you a bit. Do not be afraid 

Lena: a lot.

Rav: do not be afraid, come on, that's it. The men are waiting for it and expecting it truly. Each man inside is like a little child who waits for the mother to take him by the hand and to bring him to what needs to be this is every man. So stop acting this secondary role, it is you who needs to be the leader otherwise there is no point in doing this congress or anything else. Okay? Bye bye.