06 - 12 April 2023

Lesson on the topic of "Pesach (Passover)"

Lesson on the topic of "Pesach (Passover)"

Apr 10, 2023
To all the lessons of the collection: Pesach (Passover)

Morning Lesson April 10, 2023 

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 1:

Passover - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. (For with a mighty hand he will send them. #176)

Passover - Main page for all chapters

1. Rav’s Introduction: (00:22) Yes, we are continuing to see, learn how those who want to reach the revelation of the Creator advance on the path. They discover themselves that they are under the control of the opposite force from bestowal and still they advance. They fight with what is called the Egyptians. These are the forces of reception that control each and everyone and do not allow them to advance so easily towards in order to bestow. This is what the Torah tells us about what is happening and they write about it Baal HaSulam and also Rabash and the other Kabbalists as well, however not in a way that is so conspicuous like our two great teachers. We will continue to learn about that. Please.

Reading excerpt #176 (02:02) “When one overcomes all the hardships..”

2. R. (04:00) Here he tells us strictly about a process that can be very long in terms of time and a person should realize that all of these things come only directly from the Creator even though the Creator dresses himself in all kinds of garments of this world various events and then he sees how much she has resistance to get closer to the Creator, to identify him to connect with him. Therefore he says that fury is poured out on him. That the opposite forces to his entrance to a spirituality truly clothed on him, they grab him, control him and do not let him enter smoothly and get closer to the forces of bestowal, understand what is happening, but to the contrary.

The forces that are opposite to this is what He discovers. He discovers that it is hard for him that he understands that he doesn't feel that there are so many disturbances of all kinds and great confusion on all sides about what to do. Here it's the time and the place to discover that it all comes from the Creator and not from anyone else and especially it doesn't come from within the person because the person feels that he has no strength nor desire he is tired but it isn't so. Rather all of these forces come as forces of opposition to spiritual advancement, directly from the Creator. This one should detect and position this before him that these are seemingly his enemies but in truth they are not his enemies they only help himIn that they resist and that now he needs to discover a greater necessity to reach the revelation of the Creator connection with the Creator the force of bestowal and love.

Otherwise they will remain like that between heaven and earth. This means that one time he will want to reach it and another time it will not want to reach spirituality. In this way he can go up and down, up and down in his desires, in his forces for a long time, endlessly. What do we do? Again, what does he have in his hands only to strengthen the society and to turn to the Creator. But himself discovers that he cannot quite turn to the Creator ,sometimes for a few minutes but not more than that. Therefore only the society can save him from this whole situation and now there is also a question how does the society know about it so we have to reveal himself how much he is trying to want to reach spirituality and in that and also from the other side, how much he's weak,he doesn't have the strength,the strength of the desire, the will power what to do he doesn't know he's confused.

These states can prolong for years and years and therefore here we have to see the friends that are in these states and present before them the right work. That's to connect forcefully as much as possible against the desire. against the laziness that we must simply do forcefully above our reason. To constantly turn to the Creator that he will help us. I wish he would pray all day but he is asking for forces understanding of where he is and how to get out of it that the Creator will give him an opportunity are possibility all kinds of such States so that the person will be able to lift himself to rise up and in this way he will be able to get out of the rule of Pharaoh over him. This is why he needs to learn from his friends through envy, lust and honor. How can he get closer to the Creator? How does he get closer to the Creator.This is how it eventually reaches the next stages. Okay?

3. S. (12:11) How can we shorten the time? What does it mean, time?

R. We can shorten the time by praying together and asking together forces of bestowal. then we will rise above our state and get closer to the Creator. I can buy from the friends the forces that they have and this is how we advance. That's it through connection envy, lust,and honor bring a person out of this world that is what is written. Meaning that we are able to use the society, environment that they give examples ,they stimulate me, provoke me, this is how I get forces and I come out.

Reading excerpt # 177 (13:52): “He struck the Egyptian,..”

4. S. (16:15) How to kill the Egyptian in me?

R. Well, this is what we are learning bit by bit. Well first of all it's to detect Him that he is inside of me earlier it was just a will to receive now it is already a will to receive that grows stronger intensifies and it doesn't let me connect with the Creator it stands between me and the Creator and I cannot do anything with it. Through all of my efforts I see that there is no way to succeed in fighting against him. I felt myself as weak and this is how we gradually get to know who is our evil inclination, the Egyptian or Pharaoh. Bit by bit we see that only through the force of the creator when we draw him ask of him all of us together in the ten then to the extent that's we connect between us by that we establish in the group the force of bestowal and then through this force we are able to at least detect better the Egyptian to get closer to him to be against him and then to begin to fight with him.

S. Is this a necessary action to strike him or can you escape him or ignore him?

R. No, we truly need to reach a state where this force will disappear from us, we'll disappear from us. That through it, above it we will reach the force of bestowal of love of connection and eventually the bad forces as well as the good forces if they are established together and they already even help each other it is as it is written that the Angel of Death becomes the holy angel.

5. S. (19:37) Throughout the 40 years I have done everything within reason I have done everything only that which gave me pleasure. I have to study and according to what is written I need to do something against reason so how can I distinguish it is difficult for me as it is for others to do the work above reason?

R. Of course, we can't do work above reason, we have to receive a force in order to rise above reason above our recent means. to receive the spiritual force and then we will be able to perform certain actions with it with this new force but it's not that it exists within us. We cannot search for it but it does not exist within us this force of bestowal and love that comes out of us towards others but only if we work together in a group and we draw from above the reforming light.

S. This is something that will come to me naturally. I have to always wait for it or do I need to perform a certain act to understand what is the correct act against reason?

R. Our correct action is that we connect as much as possible between us. We perform actions in order to get closer between us in order to be as one man with one heart meaning with one desire. In this way we advance between us in connection and towards the Creator with a prayer.

6. S. (22:18) If a person overcomes the mighty hand and he doesn't want to move from the place of holiness and a person says that fury is poured out on him what is that fury that is poured out?

R. It is some obstructive force from above.

S. How is it different from the other forces from above?

R. Earlier he thought that it was he himself, he doesn’t want it, he doesn’t have the strength, he doesn’t have the desire and he ascribes all of these things to himself. Now he already ascribes them to the upper Force.

S. Well, why is fury poured out? Why is the Creator so angry?

R. The Creator is not so angry, we will learn about that later but by resisting to the person, by opposing him, the Creator compels him to want to reach spirituality even more.

S. Meaning fury that is poured out is only resistance directly from the Creator?

R. Yes.

7. S. (23:33) In our society we have the atmosphere, the conditions for a person to be able to make connections above reason to ask for the forces to go above reason. When we receive such forces, from such an awakening, how to turn it into bestowal, as it is written here? How to do it so it will be for the sake of the collective; of the Creator?

R. To come out of the boundaries of society?

S. No, towards our collective - I am sitting in the group, I receive an awakening, I receive the mind as it is written. How do I use it to help the friends and the Creator?

R. Well, this is first of all through a person's inner work that he wants to connect with his friends in the mind and heart as it is written, and later on, through all kinds of connections, of connection that we perform between us in the ten. Outside of the ten we still didn't learn about what to do. But we will learn about it, we will learn about it. It is only through connection above the disturbances that we begin to discover all of the qualities that the Creator wants us to acquire.

8. S. (25:25) We haven't yet received the ability to receive in order to bestow and yet we are required to exercise it, receive in order to bestow even though we haven't yet received this Kli, disability from the Creator in practice. Is it maybe that as we do it we might actually hit something correct and receive some reflected light?

R. You are very confused with reflected light and all of these things. Simply it is worthwhile to just sit and listen, just to sit and listen and bit by bit it will all work out. What you learnt before doesn't matter, it's not worthwhile to mix it up with what you think today. Everything should be put in order.

9. S. (26:46) When love of friends is revealed what is happening between us practically, what is revealed between us?

R. A will to receive, a will to bestow, coming closer to the friends, a greater feeling of how much closer we are to the Creator or farther away from the Creator. All of these things become more clear. That's it.

S. The act of restriction, is it within reason, in the heart or is it both?

R. The act of restriction is in the heart generally all the spiritual actions are in the heart but in order to prepare them so that the heart will begin to carry out these things we need to perform many actions, even basically in speaking, in action and later on our heart will begin to act.

10. S. (28:30) When I disagree with someone but I am willing to make a concession for them, I feel like I am striking the Egyptian in me. If I continue to make concessions but I see that no one is making concessions to me it resists our mind even more?

R. So what are you trying to tell us to get a big ego?

S. Meaning of the place where I meet the Creator is the concession?

R. Perhaps, maybe if you make a concession for you it is so much against your ego that you understand where is its boundary, where is the limit of the ego for the time being and there you attain Pharaoh.

11. S. (29:48) After everything is in the hands of the Creator what is my role here?

R. Everything is in the hands of the Creator, and everything is in the hands of man. In the hands of man, it is the prayer, the request, the exertion, and in the hands of the Creator it is the execution.

S. You also said that my heart is in the hands of the Creator?

R. The heart of people is in the hands of the Creator, that is true.

S. What am I?

R. You will know about that in a long time from now: who you are.

Reading excerpt #178 (31:00) “The Creator promised Moses..” twice.

12. S. (34:34) The second trouble is to receive corporeal pleasures in order to bestow. In our world there are ways to measure, there is a ruler, it is in centimeters, there's a thermometer, the ability to measure temperature. I don't see where is our way to measure how to receive corporeal pleasures in order to bestow. Is there a way to do it consciously to receive in order to bestow?

R. You want to shift, to transition all the corporeal qualities into spiritual qualities or the spiritual qualities into corporal emotions. I realize that this is our inner nature to want it to be this way, to want to bring each and everything closer to us so that we can make it tangible. We can feel it in our hands, weigh it, measure it but this only goes along with the force of bestowal that we measure it according to the force of bestowal,not according to the force of reception. And therefore, what we are now not yet able to detect in spirituality and so it is more or less, this is out of lack of vessels of bestowal. The moment we have vessels of bestowal we will be able to relate them with our state and then we will be able to measure where we are. But not before that.

13. S. (37:12) What's the connection between putting off corporeal pleasures and the work with spiritual pleasures?

R. Corporeal pleasures we can feel them and receive them or reject them according to our will to receive. Shame, lust, honor, according to that we can see how much do I reject, what do I get out of rejecting, how much my ego gains from what I did not receive and so on. Whereas, spiritual pleasures are all measured according to the force of bestowal as much as it's not that I don't receive but how much do I bestow. These pleasures through the environment, the environment could be a single person or the whole of humanity. It doesn't matter or the whole of the Creator and therefore, here there is a difference between the vessels in how much we get closer to each other, we operate on each other that's the difference. And then we also measure them and we measure them usually in the vessels of reception, how much we were able to overcome and be above the vessels of reception.

14. S. (39:20) How to work correctly with corporeal pleasures to prepare us to work with spiritual pleasures?

R. If we enter a society and all of our work is connection between us so that there is no more than being connected with the friends and by that to give contentment to the Creator, then according to that we can measure things.

S. Measure the importance of all things?

R. The importance, the intensity, yes.

15. S. (40:20) According to what, can a person tune himself in his desires if he can no longer even distinguish truth from false?

R. That's why we are in the corporeal world where we can see how much we get closer to the friends at least corporeally, doing whatever we can, seeing whatever we can see. To do actions even with our ego, in order to advance spiritually, seemingly spiritually. And that's how we are starting our work because we are in the intention of bestowal as much as possible in the corporeal world. We start like everyday, regular people. If I understood you correctly I am not sure.

S. I just don't understand how to advance in the spiritual work. If you try to scrutinize a certain desire and then it turns out to be false, a lie. You want to keep the Creator’s will if you do it but then it turns out to be completely incorrect?

R. But meanwhile we are learning, we are learning how to correctly value the Creator’s will, to correctly come closer to each other and connect. And that's our life, that is what we do, that is how we do everything in life. In the beginning we used to play with dolls and we would play with sandcastles, later more and more with the real things.

16. S. (43:20) The first trouble I understand. I even agree with it but the second trouble I don't understand it. Why is this the trouble, why overcoming in order to bestow is a trouble that requires help from the Creator?

R. You can't overcome it without the help of the Creator.

S. But he writes that there are spiritual pleasures in it so I am already in[..]

R. In order not to draw spiritual pleasures in order to receive but to be in them in order to bestow, to truly be spiritual.

S. And how do I succeed in coming out of it? If I feel that I am getting spiritual pleasure then it is already a good state and how to get out of that state?

R. It's not spiritual pleasure because in the meantime you want to receive.

S. What's wrong with that?

R. What do you mean what's wrong with it? Everything that you receive that you think about will be in order to receive. It will be a Klipa [shell]. What's the difference between a Klipa [shell] and holiness? You begin to receive spiritual pleasures in order to receive.

S. And for that I need an operation from the Creator?

R. Yes [….]

17. S. (45:00) It says that exiting corporeal lusts, without that we cannot reach spiritual pleasures. What does it mean to come out, to exit the corporeal pleasures and lusts?

R. I can do all kinds of actions, above corporeal lusts. I can rise above them, meaning I feel good, I feel bad or whatever I may have I do not take that into consideration, this is called above corporeal lusts.

18. S. (45:50) I can rise above corporeal lusts if I don't have another pleasure instead of it?

R. Meaning you exchange a cow for a donkey, is that what you mean, you replace one pleasure with another but you remain in the same pleasure, corporeal.

S. Is there such a calculation which is above pleasure?

R. There is a calculation which is when exiting corporeal pleasure.

19. S. (46:45) There's a problem here because according to these calculations even if a person will give up the pleasure and even will be willing to suffer in order to get the appreciation of the environment so much so?

R. That's also correct but that's also corporeal pleasure.

S. But I don't enjoy. I simply see that everyone is enthusiastic, let's say this example of someone who walks with these shoes without a sole, he suffers and everyone looks at him and says he is righteous. That's an example, so how can we feel these pleasures? It seems impossible in the eyes of the environment you are great?

R. We cannot kill any pleasure: either we replace one pleasure with another or we pray to the Creator to help us rise above, and even then we are replacing corporeal pleasure with spiritual pleasure but already in order to bestow.

S. All of these scrutinies of the intentions in each and every desire, we cannot really, if the environment is strong enough, even in the ten, it's impossible. I'm saying it seriously, every moment I have these calculations?

R. Okay, we will continue to clarify it.

20. S. (48:40) Sometimes you say that, in the end there is no corporeality at all, it's seemingly all spiritual in the end, so what I want to ask is: what is the transition between the corporeal and the spiritual?

R. In order to receive and in order to bestow. Corporeal means in order to receive where naturally we are in it from birth and spirituality is actions in order to restore the intention to bestow to the other and the other can be already outside of the person.

S. It is felt as though the transition is such that you cannot really grasp it, it happens suddenly and that's it, you cannot seemingly work with it?

R. You should scrutinize it in the group. It will be easier for you, in order to receive, in order to bestow, for myself, for others. If you don't scrutinize all that in the group quite quickly.

21. S. (50:08) Is the physical meaning of the ten, is this a spiritual act?

R. A gathering of the ten is not a spiritual act but if they wish to reach a spiritual goal, meaning in connecting in order to bestow contentment to the Creator from their connection, then this is called a spiritual work.

22. S. (51:14) What does it mean to have spiritual pleasures through the friends? How do we make that calculation?

R. We learn about it in the group, each and every lesson, how to arrange ourselves, our intentions, our connections between us, so that the connection between us will be as close as possible to in order to bestow, this is something you learn in the group gradually.

23. S. (52:12) We work with corporeality, and with spirituality we get confused but we do work with it and then we turn to the Creator. I would like to understand: what are luxuries in corporeality and also in spirituality?

R. Anything that comes out of the realm of bestowing to others is called luxuries.

24. S. (53:10) Did I understand correctly that there's something, there's a calculation where one is trying to think about what the friend needs to receive, what their deficiency is, what one can bestow to them?

R. I didn't understand the question. What's the difference between all those things you mentioned?

S. He's asking if a person should make a calculation in respect to what a friend should receive and then try to bestow, to detect the friend's deficiency and to bestow, something like that.

R. If they have some connection between them, of course it's something to be concerned with whether or not he understands the friend, whether or not he wants to be closer to him, how can they come closer to one another mutually. Maybe I missed the question. Repeat please.

S. I'm not very advanced, I'm trying to understand the desire of the friend, to calculate what he needs?

R. It's best to ask him, we wish to reach a state where all in all, all of our desires will be connected somehow, will be drawn toward the revelation of the Creator and that's it.

25. S. (55:25) When I invest in the friends and I care for them, how do we distinguish between corporeal and spiritual love towards the friends?

R. I don't think there's a difference, the care between corporeality and spiritual care is the same thing because it's all above my will to receive.

S. Let's say I care for the friend, for certain problems that he has, I'm not certain this is a spiritual matter?

R. I wish to connect with the friend, if he feels bad I wish to connect with him during his time of trouble and help him ease the situation. That's what I'm trying to do.

26. S. (57:20) All of these attempts to scrutinize and update my intention, corporeal and spiritual, to receive or bestow, it's all felt such that because I'm focused on myself, on my intentions, so that there's a different kind of shell and it’s a big confusion and mixture, and it is all a game of Pharaoh?

R. True.

S. So to get out of it, to try to stop trying to diagnose my situation, my shell but focus on bestowing contentment to the friends and to raise the spirit of the society?

R. Okay, one does not interfere with the other.

27. S. (58:25) About the concern for the friends, what the friend asked about. You said that it's good to connect with the friends and ease his trouble, before that I thought that I should help him to connect with the Creator, to justify Him, to go through the state that he's in, so can we do something besides this concern because you said there's no difference between corporeal concern and spiritual concern? We have a friend with a complicated state in our ten, it just grows worse. We don't know what to do if the situation doesn't improve corporeally, so what should we do?

R. Demand from the Creator for the situation to improve, get it out of the Creator by force.

S. What does it mean to demand it from the Creator forcefully? We all think about it and pray to the Creator, so it's only inner thought and concern or can we add some corporeal action?

R. If you're going to add something physical, do it as well.

28. S. (01:00:30) He struck the Egyptian, not letting him satisfy his will. What does it mean not letting him satisfy his will?

R. In the will to receive he saw that he's unable to get what he wants and that's why he goes against that desire. This is the meaning of striking the Egyptian.

S. It is restriction?

R. No, no, don't get confused. I guess all these smart ideas you've heard about restriction and other things, no, follow what's written.

S. He wrote here but only what the intellect compels, meaning only to the will to receive and he remains inside the restriction, in the end of 177. What is this restriction?

R. The restriction is what I have to perform on my will to receive in order to rise above it; this is called restriction.

29. S. (01:02:32) To continue the scrutiny about caring for the friends. Sometimes I see from my ego, I see different certain states and you want to help and you want to approach the friend but you see that there's no one to talk to. How do we penetrate in? How do we penetrate into the friend who's in a state and we actually help him or more correctly, how can the friend begin to hear the friends?

R. You need to show him that you wish to be together with him in all of his states.

S. But he doesn't listen to you, he doesn't hear you, you are with him but[...]

R. Don't place conditions, you simply wish to be with him in all his states.

S. And what next how do I [...]

R. You don't do anything besides that.

S. This is what we pray for, there's something here that I don't manage to grasp?

R. Yes, your work to be together with him is already in the form of a prayer.

30. S. (01:04:05) What does it mean to kill a desire? Does the Creator kill our desires?

R. No, we cannot kill our desires, they are eternal, we need to continue to live with them but our desires, we only need to add the intention to bestow and as much as possible we see these desires are great and exalted and it'll be the same way in order to bestow, you don't kill any desire you simply stop using it.

S. So the Creator can take away from us the desires?

R. Certainly, the same way that we get desires from the Creator we can also lose them.

31. S. (01:05:40) How in the state that we're in can we work with all the actions we're performing in the group so that they will be with the quality of bestowal?

R. The main thing is to be connected with the environment, the main thing is to be connected with the environment, scrutinize less inside of you all those thoughts and philosophies and rather be more connected with the environment and then you will certainly advance in the right way.

S. To be connected physically?

R. As much as you can physically, emotionally, ideologically, it doesn't matter how. As much as possible to be “as one man, in one heart.”

Reading number 179 (01:07:10) “ Moses contemplated and said..” twice.

32. R. (01:09:23) Meaning we talk about how, even though there are many forces against bestowal, the force of bestowal although it is weak, it does not disappear, it does not get extinguished rather it continues, until it eventually triumphs.

33. S. (01:10:00) Missing translation.

R. Both the egoistic force and the altruistic force we cannot erase them and cancel them from the world, but only to give each one of them the correct use, that's it.

Reading number 180 (01:10:30)

34. R. (01:11:25) Meaning even though they are really afraid and they are suffering, all the suffering and the torment they're going through will ultimately cleanse them from in order to receive. That's how it's written basically, there's nothing to add here, go ahead.

Reading number 181 (01:11:55) twice.

35. R. (01:14:10) We didn't go through these states yet, this is before us.

Reading Titles, Tokens and Signs, number 182 (01:14:25) twice.

36. S. (01:17:15) What is that a new king rose in Egypt that didn't know Joseph and came to Israel?

R. It means that the will to receive that was controlling people, it somewhat has changed.

S. What’s changed? How can we classify in our life that a new King is revealed? Is there such a thing?

R. For us, no.

S. So he's talking about the three signs? What are the three signs?

R. The three signs: the first sign is turning the staff into the serpent and the serpent to the staff, the second sign is that by taking out his hand and not from his bosom, it was as leprous as snow. And when he took out his hand from his bosom it returned to be as his flesh, the third sign is that by spilling the water of the Nile onto the land it turned into blood.

S. How can you explain it?

R. Well, it's not simple, it's three things that are above nature, so let us advance towards it.

S. This can advance us spiritually if we use these signs?

R. What, you see it before you? What are you talking about, you don't belong to these signs, they're above nature. Do you belong to the forces that are above nature?

S. Right now, no.

R. Exactly, so wait.

S. Do we need to advance in these signs?

R. Yes, of course, without this you won't reach the exodus from Egypt.

37. S. (01:19:55) The main work of ours is in intention, the longer we advance, the more you realize that all sorts of actions you're doing are only for yourself. And if I understand correctly, still under the influence of the desire to receive, gradually we come towards bestowal. Where and how can you determine this moment where the switch of intention happens?

R. You have a group, and by your attitude towards them you can feel how you relate to them, whether you want to feel good or in order to save them, to push them ahead and you are the pushing force, as their engine of the group that's only working for them, in order to help them advance towards the Creator. What does that mean? To the Creator, as much as you cause connection between them, and they will come closer to the center of the ten, they will come closer to the Creator because he is in the center of the ten. Try and build such a system and you'll see that it's all close to you in your hands and you can right now start implementing it.

38. S. (01:21:55) To continue about the new king that rose and didn't know Joseph. It means that there was a king who did know Joseph?

R. Maybe, maybe Joseph was concealed and then there wasn't a problem whether he knew about him or not.

S. Because it sounds like there was a more advanced stage before that and then it declined?

R. It seems like that during the exile, it seems that the state is just deteriorating.

S. So what? We just decline?

R. No, we are advancing towards our goal. Along with that it could be that we are declining in our eyes and we don't have the forces to deal with our will to receive but according to that I need the help of the Creator more and more.

S. I think I understand, thank you.

39. S. (01:23:05) When the staff turns into a snake and the snake into a staff, what does it mean exactly? And the second sign, this is the question for now?

R. That it depends how we use our will to receive, whether in order to receive or in order to bestow. So then it becomes a staff or a serpent, it either kills us or saves us, and the serpent is a very outstanding example, how through all animals in nature, its poison can either be a remedy or the potion of death.

S. What does it mean that his hand that he returned to be as his flesh?

R. It’s signs that we'll learn about later, we have to learn more first.

40. S. (01:24:55) You said that the symbol and signs who can see these?

R. Those who are under the framework of those signs and not regular people. You have to have the force that bestows and the force that receives and then you can use them both, the signs and[...]

S. I want to ask about these signs, they came to show the people.

R. Correct.

S. It comes out that whoever sees these signs can also pass them in order to advance?

R. Right, yes, the signs and the staff and more signs too.

S. Then doesn't it mean that there is a shared screen, to share the screen, meaning he can share the screen with the people?

R. There's no such ability to share a screen with somebody ever, you can cover friends with your screen and protect them, there are such abilities sometimes, but it's kind of early to speak about that.

41. S. (01:27:27) If I have a desire to receive in order to bestow and I am receiving pleasure with it, is this an egoistic pleasure?

R. Is the purpose that you feel good or the friend feels good?

S. For the friend to feel good.

R. And for you it doesn't matter as long as you feel good. then this is okay.

42. S. (01:28:20) Is it correct to ask to lose the desires to receive and for the Creator to take them away?

R. Why does He need to take them away, the Creator doesn't need anything from us, He just wants to get our willingness to accept the Upper Light, in order to come closer to Him in equivalence of form.

43. S. (01:29:28) These signs that we read about is this help from the Creator from above to the person who hears these signs?

R. Yes, of course.

S. And they are like a conduit for the rest?

R. Yes, in spirituality everything we receive we actually pass it on to the others if it ends in us so then we don't receive it. The spiritual system is built in such a way that I only receive under the condition that I passed it onward.

44. S. (01:30:35) If I understood correctly from the friend's question, she asked if it's okay to ask for me not to have the desire to receive, for the Creator to disappear, to make my desire disappear?

R. Is that right, is that what you asked?

S. This was a question from a friend in the Ten but yes, yes.

R. So again what did you say?

S. Is it correct to ask for the Creator to just make my desire to receive disappear?

R. So what do I gain from that? I'm completely erased from humanity. I don't exist, not in spirituality or corporeality.

S. What do we need to ask for then?

R. Not that the Creator deletes our will to receive but help me correct it, to make my will to receive into something that resembles Him, meaning in order to bestow, meaning even though he's opposite of the Creator he will work in a similar way to the Creator, that's our work and that's our correction.

45. S. (01:32:10) When a person is in the intention for himself then everything he does on the spiritual path is taken by the Klipa?

R. Correct.

S. It's written that the Klipa feeds by that but when the Creator switches the intention to in order to bestow then the Klipa vomits everything back into the vessel to bestow, do I understand correctly that what exists between these two situations is a desert?

R. That’s not what's written, it's not written like that. The fact that there's a lot of work, everything of man's work is there, yes, he swallowed it and then he will vomit it out.

46. S. (01:33:28) Is the staff the intention?

R. Yes.

47. S. (01:33:50) I tried to analyze the excerpts and is it correct to think that despite the difficult work that stands before us of overcoming both the corporeal and spiritual desires or passions and even that we've read that they lost faith in Moses, we still read that the bush doesn't burn out and with it it's felt some level of optimism, do we have a spark of this Reshimot some record of this confidence for us to be able to overcome all these obstacles

R. Yes of course yes, we are connected to the Creator and we aren't disconnecting from him, and the burning bush of Kutz as it's written, it burns as long as we don't take advantage of our entire ego in order to bestow

48. S. (01:33:36) The will to receive can I lean on it and order to?

R. That's a restriction when you don't want to use the will to receive.

S. I'm using it,I'm leaning against it so that it gives me some rejection to pushback

R. That's already receiving in order to bestow.

49. S. (01:36:31) In 182 it's written, that upon their descent into the matter, what does it mean to came to here and the words of Moses"

R. That they will hear what he says, the voice of Moses is the voice of faith and they will get that force of faith they can uplift above their will to receive and they will be able to come out of the exile. We come out of the exile only by the light of faith of the Emuna and they will get that force of faith, those that helps them rise.

50. S. (01:37:37) At the end, we are receiving pleasure from bestowa; like the story of the host and the guest?

R. It's a different kind of pleasure, it's a pleasure that I feel like the Creator gives for everybody and now I am like him. They say that it's 620 times greater than reception but we can't just multiply.

51. S. (01:38:34) We read about these different signs and the burning bush and the staff, the hand. What is the sign that we are studying for working above reason where I don't need any proof but I need to rise above reason?

R. That is in the next part that's coming up right now, it is written staff and serpent that's what we'll talk about.

52. S. (01:39:23) A question about 181, it is it about the shoe and the feet?

R. We didn't read that?

S. We read it, you said we read it and we will talk about it later. I wanted to ask that we need to synchronize, to unite and just disappear in that system so that it uses me for the purpose of creation, is that what needs to happen for the purpose of creation to realize it?

R. No,don't think that there's actions that they want to do upon you without you knowing about it and as a punishment or something. No, completely not, it's just that we need to learn what systems we receive in order to enter spirituality, that's all before us.

S. What habit should I work on?

R. You will get guidance soon, don't worry about it, you will have all the tools for it right now is what we are learning.

Reading number 184 (01:41:31) Staff and the serpent) twice

53. S. (01:43:26) Can we say that in the second sign when Moses puts his hand to his chest does it represent the state of the Behina Dalet?

R. I don't know it's not written, it's not written, It's here so we only learn what we read.

54. S. (01:44:06) What is the staff that they write about? You drop it on the ground and it turns into something else. What is a staff?

R. It means below reason or above reason, it depends on how we accept the force of bestowal and the force of reception.

S. You said something earlier that irks me, that we need to use all of our ego in order to bestow,what does it mean to use all of our ego?

R. All of the will to receive that for now is in order to receive we will need to invert it in order to bestow.

S. Okay but in the meantime what do you do with all of this ego?

R. For now use as much as you can, part yes part no.

S. I need to use this ego? or cancel or annul it?

R. You can't not use it, you live in it. How can it be that you won't use it?

S. How do I rise above the ego that he's only giving us problems?

R. Are you uplifting above it?

S. It is very difficult for me to rise above it

R. What are you asking? You are being taught how to rise above it.

S. How? Through annulment?

R. Through the friends.

S. Through the Ten you're doing it ?

R. Yes

S. How does theTen influence around it on everything I see today? Everyones' ego personally?

R. Don't take us into politics.

S. No I'm not.

R. We don't want to know about it. We want to know how to connect in the Ten correctly.

S. In the Ten, can we cancel all the external forces?

R. I don't know, it doesn't interest me.

55. S. (01:46:09) Why is it written that there's no intermediary state or transitional state, since after they leave Egypt they're in the desert, they don't just enter the land of israel?

R. Towards man it's either Klipa or holiness. You can say that he doesn't feel anything, but still it's either a  Klipa, shell or peel or holiness.

S. We who are studying we're in the intermediary state, the transitional state?

R. Not exactly You are walking but you still aren't recognizing this walking or where, or how much you're advancing.

S. Meaning we're just in preparation for the next stage but it's not an intermediary state or transitional state.

R. Yes.

Excerpt 185 ( 01:47:25) " The Fifteenth of Av"

56. S. (01:49:25) Why doesn't the Creator want to throw the staff on the ground? What is the benefit of this?

R. It means that the principal, what he had, He wants him to toss it to the ground, and not respect it in the same way He's in right now.

57. S. (01:50:06) I understand that if I'm holding the staff, then this is faith above reason, and if I drop it on the ground then it is below reason. Then it turns into my serpent, my egoism,and Moses runs away from it. I'm forced to come down below reason to awaken a greater danger from Pharaoh to make Moses work?

R. Okay.

58. S. (01:50:58) Let's assume that we, as a group,hold the staff together. What does this hand mean in the group precisely? What is holding the staff?

R. The desire to reach the goal. I must hold the staff because thanks to it I can reach the goal. but along with that, I need to discern whether I am walking correctly or not. That's the purpose of the staff. That's its role, to really pull me into the goal.

S. Yes, I would like to clarify, we have many hands, they're warm and we're hugging each other with these hands. How does the law of mutual guarantee work? How do we hold the staff together, the guarantee of holding the staff?

R. When I feel myself as a representative of the group and I hold the staff for the whole group.

S. Is it possible to say that my loyalty to the group is holding the staff?

R. Yes, those are the words.

59. S. (01:52:06) During the convention I feel hatred towards all kinds of feelings that come up in the group. In my mind I understand that I can't prevent it so I'm trying to come closer to the group with actions. But both forces remain, what is the victory, what should I ask for?

R. You have to ask only for one thing, only for connection. We have to connect, in heart and soul, as much as possible, more and more and all together. This is all. Then in the connection between us, there exists all of the upper scrutinies, all of the upper discernments, so that it does not depend on the will to receive but only on love.

60. .S (01:55:03) What does it mean that Moses fled from the serpent?

R. He feared that the snake would eat him, and would use him. It is the will to receive that if you don't hold him correctly and work with him and use him in order to bestow then the snake causes damage, brings death.

S. Moses is the quality of connection to the Creator, meaning the intention to receive harms the connection with the Creator?

R. Correct.

S. The only action is to lift the staff again?

R. Yes.

61. S. (01:56:23) To use the whole of the ego, I'm not saying these are connected but there's something where the Creator uses Pharaoh against us as help against, and we also read that He sends the fury against us as help and sometimes I hear you say, no firmly. Is this what we need to learn to do sometimes in the Ten if we see that a friend is doubling the problem? But is it dangerous?

R. Yes of course, you're right.

62. S. (01:57:52) What does that mean that out of this action of turning the staff into a snake the nation of Israel will believe Moses?

R. He will see that the staff is a way of reaching the Creator and the staff that is turning into the serpent is the opposite, the opposite.

63. S. (01:58:48) The staff is something a person uses, it brings him benefit and the serpent is something harmful, so is it right to turn this parable about the staff above into reason. be stabbed below reason and damage?

R. Let it be so for now it's not that simple.

64. S. (01:59:18) The state of Moses and the staff it started after Pharaoh accepted Moses? What convinced Pharaoh to accept Moses?

R. What is the question?

S. What convinced Pharaoh to accept Moses? What causes Pharaoh to accept Moses?

R. I cannot say. Pharaoh accepts Moses because he knows he's familiar with Moses, he knows that Moses is a very important force, it is the head of the force of bestowal, and if we the Egyptians use him then we'll be able to turn this force into a bestower for the sake of reception. Then all of the in order to receive will be ours. Therefore it is beneficial for him, time and time again to speak to Moses.

S. How did those two contradicting forces come together?

R. They both use the will to receive. They both have just a difference in the goal, either to use, to conquer the goal, or not. Meaning in what way to use the force of reception for the sake of bestowal or for the sake of reception.

S. How can I use my will to receive in order to bestow?

R. Think about the friends, think about the friends.

65. S. (02:02:08) Moses is the quality of faith inside of us, meaning when the Creator asks him to throw down the staff, so it's like a test he's doing to Moses. He's testing if our Moses will run away, so the Creator is controlling our faith. Is that the same thing as rejecting us with a strong hand?

R. Yes.

S. That will keep going till the last day of our path?

R. This we will learn about, there are more states.

66.S. (02:03:18) If there is Sitra Achra,or holiness and we're not in both states, which state are we in?

R. We are at a choice between the two states of which we are going to go to. This means the freedom of choice. Okay?

Excerpt 186: (02:04:36) Article No. 59, “Concerning the Staff and the Serpent”

67. S. (02:56:03) How can we fill the batteries in the Congress? How do we renew our forces?

R. Only through musical break with singing, breaking with food, by breaking we have long breaks, we can escape to the sea. Maybe whoever is capable of  entering the sea because it may still be cold and the main thing is from friends,from friends. What do you have today during the breaks?

S. Today our schedule right after the lesson we have a buffet meal, at 11:30. We have a Yeshivat Haverim, until noon. There's a Yeshivat Haverim, at noon we have a lesson till 1:30 and then in the evening we have a meal. There's also an afternoon meal after the lesson and in the evening there's a meal. The question is how to renew the forces also during the lesson and not just…..

R. During the lesson I'm looking at the friends, and it fills me with strength because I see how it weighs heavily on them in this lesson and this topic, and what else can you do but still awakened they overcome, do all sorts of actions not to lose their attention on the topic of the lesson, this is the work. This is precisely the work to resist that I am losing the line of the lesson.

S. Another general question to understand the approach, sometimes we see that the men are more active sometimes the men are more active, today you said the men are less the women are more, when we are at, when we are on the path to correction, does it mean matter where the strength comes from?

R. No, each one adds to another one, although I see that women are much more active which it's always like that but all in all it's within nature.

S. How can men be more active when we're alert? How can we awaken the desire?

R. I don't know, maybe you will sing. I don't know what to do.

68. S. (02:10:28) We get filled in the lesson and I can't find a way to empty the vessels and renew them?

R. What do you recommend? How do you deplete yourself? How do you pour your vessels out so that you are constantly renewed? I understand that this is a challenge? Workshops? What workshops? Well? well well?

69. S. (02:11:16) That would be a good question to discuss in the Tens that there's a state of Klipa and a state of holiness? How is it called that the state of the person is willing to work for himself but willing to work for others only?

R. In this state he's working for the sake of this society. as much as possible, physically, participates with everyone also. Who here spoke about a workshop?

70. S. (02:12:33 ) How can we acquire the force of daith what we were saying?

R. The Creator gives this is the upper force that the Creator gives to a person the moment the person is ready to accept it and use it properly.

S. Can we do it alone or together?

R. There are several people who are ready but not together yet. we are not connected. You are not happy enough that you have a connection here, an opportunity for connection, and that you can be together and connect and pull out of yourself the force of bestowal and connect with the friends, and in this force of bestow all that is increased you will be able to come closer to the Creator. This is yet but you have arrived and you're looking at me waiting for me to do something. I can't do anything with it. Okay? So we're doing a workshop. Who will manage the workshop?

WSQ. We just heard Rav saying that what we're lacking is the happiness of the connection so let's scrutinize in the workshop between us how to create happiness from the connection we have here in this gathering? How can we rejoice in our connection in our gathering here?