Morning Lesson January 06, 2023, Transcription
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Part 1:
Zohar for All. "Introduction of The Book of Zohar". You Are Partners with Me. #69
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1. Rav’s Introduction: I do not have anything to add here we simply need to read how to cleave ourselves to what he is writing, if not with understanding than in feeling and try to have these things influence us, to open ourselves up to the words of the Zohar to influence us and when they start to influence us and we wish to feel ourselves changing we want to feel ourselves changing accordingly.
Reading: (01:28) Item 69 “That Unreliable Man Flies in the False...”
2. R. (05:36) This means that this is what we see when we give permission to the wicked Nukva, female than the systems are built against sanctity, and they prevent them and disturb those who want to walk in sanctity preventing them from advancing. As it is written that she kills several thousand just like through the MAN of the righteous a new heaven and earth is built for sanctity and MAN those who do not know how to serve the Creator as it is written the heaven and earth for the Klipot is built and this is as it is written God has made them one against the other, two systems the system of holiness and the system of Klipa or the shells.
3. S. (06:47) Who is advancing here, the Klipot or the Kedusha? We are now people or not?
R. No not yet, we are not taken into consideration as people in the same body the same way. We are considered only the desires and the intentions, and the Creator considers and values only those desires, forces, and aspirations that people have and if they advance according to His ways then He is helping them and if not then He is correcting them. This is how it works.
4. S. (08:07) What should our attitude be when we are reading about the systems about the Klipa in The Zohar?
R. We need to get impressions by everything that is written simply as much as we can absorb and understand in order to be aware of them of the ego, that is I have to receive the desire to control that is what we need. That all those forces rule the world, rule people, rule us and as much as possible we need to be aware of them and to keep our distance from them and sometimes we can turn them into the good but that is still ahead of us.
S. When we read in The Zohar many times we receive from you this guidance to open ourselves to the text, to feel the text, to incorporate in the text to operate on us. Seemingly when we read about the system of the Klipa there is a certain conflict, meaning do I want to open myself up there and also very pictorial descriptions here and very emotional. Do I want to incorporate into The Zohar without any differentiation whether it is the Klipa or the Kedusha?
R. No, we wish to be incorporated with the good force which is the Creator who is above everyone and how to be incorporated with Him and how to approach Him. This is through the forces that may help us and assist us, and The Zohar is speaking of those, that there are good and evil forces and between them we wish to protect ourselves from the evil and come closer to the good and by that we move through this space, and we determine where we wish to be.
S. The person needs even before he knows a word of what The Zohar writes to do a scrutiny from what text he wants to be with and what he wants to you?
R. That too, as much as we understand, we do not understand, but as much as we can feel we may not feel too much and everything correctly but gradually by wanting to cleave to the text in general to the thing that The Zohar is describing, this works on us, purifies us, corrects us, and gives us more and more discernments. Just like with little children when we approach them from afar, in the study and try to teach them all kinds of important things in life.
S. Specifically relative to one of the texts here when we read these texts what should our intention be, how to work with the emotions and with the thought?
R. Each one according to how he understands.
S. We need to start doing discernments here and here it is talking about the system of Klipot and to incorporate in that and I want to understand that?
R. Yes, there are two systems here, a good system and an evil system and Kabbalists don’t hide it from you. They say that both these systems wish to control you, to rule over you. But you have free choice in what you wish to be incorporated in, either with the system of the Klipa, the shells which is envy and lust honor, all kinds of phenomena like that or the system of sanctity that when you approach it and activate it on yourself you do it by coming closer to the friends.
S. Reading a certain verse I need to think that, as if I am adding here some intellectual calculations?
R. There is no more than that for the time being, you cannot bring them into your feelings yet.
S. Right, but we say that we want to open to The Zohar when we are reading such depictions that are unpleasant to say the least, so should we open ourselves to them?
R. As much as possible to bring them to a feeling of the friends, and together if you focus on what the text is saying you can enter and penetrate and add to each other and then you will see how much each one although he has nothing, no knowledge, no feeling, or no understanding. But by wanting to connect, you are opening it up and suddenly you see that through connection specifically through the connection it opens up more and more.
S. It opens and then what do we discover?
R. You feel more.
S. You feel more what we are reading here?
R. What you are reading.
S. And do we want to feel that?
R. Yes.
S. We read here about the woman of harlotry, killing tens of thousands of people?
R. Does this repel you?
S. Of course it repels me.
R. Why?
S. Because from my small mind I do not understand half of an iota what is being written in The Zohar and it seems like it is a negative matter to say the least, if not horrible?
R. And then what? You wish to shut down the book and move away and then what?
S. I just want to know what is the correct guidance to open myself up because anyways I am not holding on to the understanding of what is written here, so if the guidance is unified for everything we read there?
R. The guidance to sit together and read and try to penetrate the book ,this is a direct simple guide.
S. Even with these kinds of texts?
R. Even with this kind of text because it was all given to us. Rabbi Shimon wrote it for us. We need to accept it and try to at least measure ourselves with it. If not then clothe with it at least.
S. How can an egoistic person settle the conflict between what appears here and how the text is supposed to clothe his feelings and thoughts?
R. It all comes from the Creator both the negative and the positive, both the concealed and the revealed. All in all if I connect with the friends then I am moving closer to the Creator, that is certain. The more we can make concessions towards each other, connect to each other, turn to the Creator, try to feel Him as present in our center, in our midst in the relationship between us. We wish to feel Him as the one who fills our Ten and by that we begin to feel that what we read before and understood nothing about, suddenly it begins to clear up.
5. S. (17:11) He is writing here about the male can I ask about that?
R. Yes.
S. He says that the male attains VAK whereas the female attains the complete 10 Sefirot and we learn that there are no discernments in the light that gives only in the vessel of the female so how do we relate to this concept of the masculine.
R. We will see that over time.
6. S. (17:48) What can we learn about the work in which it says that G-d made this relative to that, made them opposite one another?
R. Like the forces in the shell, the husk, there are equal forces in the sanctity, and we have to build ourselves in a way that it includes both worlds and in this way we can turn the shell into sanctity and all of reality begins to approach a complete correction.
6. S. (18:35) Can there be such a thing that those forces of the shells that govern the world do not give it to the person altogether or must he always need to be immersed in them?
R. What does he have to do?
S. To always be immersed in them, dipped in them?
R. If there were no shells we would not be able to attain sanctity. What is the Creator's reason that he created one opposite to the other? Of course we attain the shells we incorporate with them and then when we understand that this state is opposite to the Creator then we wish to move away from it as much as possible we turn to the Creator asking his help as much as possible we activate ourselves for connection and by that we begin to attain the states of holiness and in the states of holiness we begin to understand and feel what is the reality that is above our own, a higher reality and in this way we come to the upper world to the spiritual world.
S. (20:33) This process as long as a person as long as the shells are drawing him inwards and the person starts to get to know that the shells are distancing him from the Creator. Months can go by before the person can notice this. How can we accelerate this process to understand immediately that the shells are sucking you inwards and to hasten the process of the recognition of evil?
R. It is written that two are holding onto a prayer shawl. Two forces, the good inclination and the bad inclination grab hold onto a person. One says he is all mine and the other also says he is all mine. It all depends on the person. Who does he wish to go with, and the person should feel himself half righteous and half wicked. It all depends on the person and where he cuts these two forces into two and begins to separate them from one another forces and to be with one of them. This is done when the person is incorporated in the ten. There he sees himself as constantly building connections between them whereas in the connection they are all aimed at the Creator. We cannot really get lost with these forces, it is simply connection between us and from us to the Creator. That is what we need.
7. S. (22:37) Actually to continue the scrutiny of all the friends, what is actually these forces we are talking about, us or people on the path?
R. Yes. Speak only of those people who are drawn to the revelation of the Creator according to the choice between two systems of shells and of sanctity.
8. S. (23:18) There is a very heavy feeling here, even scary from the text we have just read. The Sages want to pass this feeling to us. What should we understand or feel that this state of the shells is a scary state? It is a harmful state, it is a state that kills. Is this how we need to receive and feel the Zohar?
R. It will change but we have to progress.
9. S. (24:01) The Sages, did they study both ways of good & evil I want to say before they chose the path of holiness, did they get to know all the evil there is on the way to the shells?
R. These two paths are arranged in such a way that you cannot progress on one unless you also progress on the other. It is like a person who is walking on two legs, left and right, left and right, that is how the paths are set up. You cannot reach sanctity unless you also enter the system of the shells.
10. S. (25:00) In what manner is the heart coming closer between us? How do they protect us from the control of the shells? So when the hearts between us come closer in what way do they protect us from the control of the shells?
R. Because then we set up a good system each time more and more if we come closer to each other and then there is no room for the shells.
S. And what actions of ours can nourish this control of the shells and strengthen it?
R. We are constantly talking about it. We have been talking about it for years that we have to love each other and come closer to each other and help each other. So what is the question here?
11. S. (26:07) How do we correct the shells through prayer or recognition of evil? Or again perform the same actions?
R. Only through the good attitude and a prayer to the Creator.
12. S. (26:39) How can we bring the upper light into the center of our circle in order to become aware of the evil and the good? What are the conditions to do so?
R. Only the connection between us and how much we wish to reach the goal together and then accordingly we draw the reforming light, and this will influence us.
13. S. (27:31) If you try to incorporate in the ten between the friends and you do not manage to do so and you have foreign thoughts, are those the shells or something else?
R. These are shells, but these shells can be such that they aim the person to the good just like through the diseases we may come closer to good health for example and that can also happen.
S. And how can we struggle or defeat them or fight against them?
R. Very simple. Only connection. Connection between us. That is the correction that is the true action that will triumph over the shells. There is no more than that.
S. For example it seems as if there are such moments in which there is more heaviness and burdening along the way to incorporate in the Zohar, the heart does not answer that. What does that point do?
R. There are really great forces ahead of you and it is hard for you to identify them and overcome them and ask for connection on top of them. This is a problem. I am not saying it is easy, but the main thing is to remind each other that this is our work, without stopping with each passing moment and we should be engaged only with that and then very quickly we can attain those spiritual degrees.
S. What is written here where the Creator created a thing opposite another thing, so this says that upon such a burdening you can get more connection?
R. Of course as much as we are in the shell accordingly we can demand sanctity and even more than the shell for the sanctity to triumph over the shell.
S. Are there forms of burdening here that we can maybe relate to in a different way that not that the forces appear in me but for the friends.
R. Together. Together. Only together if you ask then you obligate the Creator to help you. And if you do it alone, then it is a voice calling out in the desert.
S. For example, if there is a friend and you see that he is not succeeding to deal with it. He cannot overcome himself, to awaken, to come to the lesson he is trying, even once. It is not that he doesn't want to participate in the lessons, but he's not succeeding for years. What does that point to?
R. It is impossible to say. I cannot say what the problem is. It is possible that indeed he cannot do it by himself and the friends cannot help him. Maybe he needs to perform certain special actions in order to reach the correct prayer. I cannot say. There are many possible reasons for it.
14. S. (31:57) Sometimes the person can find himself in the shell and it seems that he is in holiness, so how can we discern quickly that we are in this or that?
R. First of all, are you drawn to the friends? Then it means that you are near sanctity.
S. The holiness on the higher level, does it become the shell on the highest level?
R. What are you talking about? How could that be? Where are you taking this from?
S. It appears to me that the holiness on the next level appears as the shells?
R. No. It is not correct.
15. S. (33:30) We learn a lot that the Zohar was concealed because it was feared of being revealed to the world so as not to cause harm. Now we are learning about the immense ramifications that can take place from the other side and on the other hand we are learning that we can study Zohar. Can we still cause harm or not?
R. You cannot harm anything because we have no powers in order to harm something. You do not have powers for them as well you understand? Therefore, we cannot do anything neither good nor bad. To choose from our good state, it says very simply, through the friends by connecting with the friends and by progressing to greater connection.
S. With that there should be some form of fear?
R. The fear that you are not going to be able to attain anything.
16. S. (34:38) How do you use the power of the work of the shells to work on the right line?
R. When we come to connection and we wish to activate the force of connection in order to give to the Creator from within the connection, then we begin to feel if we have a new newly awakened forces of resistance and then with the work, with those forces we build the system in three lines left, right, middle and that is how we advance.
17. S. (35:29) [No translation]
R. No, there is no need to invent things here. The Klipot shells are desires for my sake for my sake, sanctity are desires for the sake of other and in this way we need to calibrate ourselves to the connection with others that through it we can aim at doing good for the Creator, to benefit Him, and then the correct system will be created in us, it’s called from love of the created beings to the love of the Creator.
18. S. (36:53) When he speaks of the Nukva that can fly across all the worlds in a moment with Sefirot does it relate to our lives the Klipot that make up our imaginary world?
R. In our world there are no Klipot because Klipot are forces opposite Kedusha holiness, not Kedusha and not Klipot, those forces are not in our reality, they’re not. We are not quite aimed towards bestowal in order to scrutinize that there is something opposite it. We will advance, discover, and reveal.
19. S. (38:03) What is the meaning of an entire world? It’s written that she has the permission, the ability, to fly across the entire world in ten Sefirot. What does it mean the entire world?
R. The whole world of ten Sefirot where all the lights and all the vessels, desires, intentions, actions, screens, everything is included in one feeling which is called a complete or whole world.
20. S. (38:50) After reading the excerpt you said that an incorrectly formed prayer can drop us to the Sitra Achra, other side, and all this happens inside of a spiritual person meaning when you acquire the screen and we go to Lishma if I understand correctly. So do we go there without having a desire for the correct prayer?
R. I understand you, I understand you. Specifically, the appeal to the Creator the complete address as much as possible enables you to acquire a screen and then you understand correctly where you are and how to appeal to the Creator.
S. Yesterday we also talked about the Klipot, the negative Nukva is called false and today harlotry, is it different?
R. These are different degrees but yes, certainly.
21. S. (40:25) If the ten breaks in two does it mean that the entire ten is under the power of the Klipot?
R. No, we need to struggle with this and not enable it, not allow it, we don’t need to come to any conclusion we just must not allow it to happen. To understand that it was given to us so that we will rise above the shattering and then we will attain the next degree.
22. S. (41:09) You said that you cannot advance on the good path unless we first know about the bad path. Does it mean that we have to walk in the evil path in order to investigate it? This talk scares me.
R. No, we do not have to go into the path of bad we have to always be drawn towards the good path but the moment we fall from a good level to a bad level we have to understand this is for us to rise above, and this way from descents ascents and descents and ascents we advance this way. We do not advance on a plain straight line, we are always through descents ascents and descents ascents, and the descents precede the ascents.
23. S. (42:29) We only focus on connection and on the connection only and that we always focus on the positive side and do not have the right line without the left line. In our work because there is a permission from above there are two systems, the holy system the Kedusha and the Klipa. Should we in the work or also expect to be very happy that these Klipa are there to help us, so what should we expect from the work? Should we be ready to accept this with happiness and gratitude that these Klipa are there to help?
R. You are right, we need to bless for the bad as we need to bless for the good as it is written and this is actually our work. I do not prefer the good things and easy and pleasant things. I prefer things that advance me to the Creator as effectively as possible and this is the only thing that is important for me. Therefore it is written a person needs to bless for the bad as he blesses for the good because truly these two paths just like with two feet ,we get closer to the goal that way.
S. What does it mean that we prevent them, should we prevent those forces or should we be happy that they can work on us?
R. We cannot prevent anything, the main thing for us is to feel what is influencing us from the side of bad or from the side of good and for us to overcome correctly every step of the way and this is how we advance. Also from the right side we have to be distanced and also from the left side we have to be distanced and this is in order to advance to the goal. Just like walking we are not advancing by skipping on one foot just or on the right foot for example, rather we exchange feet. We are on the right foot until we feel benefit from it and then we switch to the left foot and get that benefit from that as well. Then we'll leave it when we see that we already filled ourselves with the negative force. These are things that we need to feel inside of us and then we will start to work in a gradual persistent manner. This is still ahead of us.
S. How can we come and help each other to get to this great confidence together that we can work with these great forces that we can expect that they come but use them correctly in the next state?
R. We can only scrutinize together, if you embrace and want to know where we are right is, where are left is, where the purpose of creation is, by what we can advance with what we have before as right now. If you think in such a way then for sure you are scrutinizing the path correctly and taking the correct steps forward. Let's go.
S. How can we do this and the connection and to scrutinize it? I would like your advice on how to do this, in thought or in prayer? What is the scrutiny that we can help each other, =to prepare ourselves to work with each other, with these Klipa, but not to focus on the Klipa but to be thankful and accept them and use them correctly. How do we do these scrutinies together?
R. Together and in prayer for the Creator as you go through all kinds of states and from each and every state you turn to the Creator non-stop and ask for guidance, the force to advance and to see the situation in the right way and so on so forth, constantly non-stop and you will see that the Creator is walks ahead of you. This is how you will see it eventually and that you are crowning Him and He is starting to be the first in your line.
24. S. (48:01) Which action is accelerating our power to advance more, by reading the text and trying to keep the intention from the connection or talking about it together and getting questions and expecting answers and rejections? Which one is getting us closer and faster?
R. What is taking us closer to the goal is the connection between us and to the extent we can depict the connection to the Creator. Out of the connection between us when we can feel it, we have attained it, that is called love of the created beings to the love of the Creator. Whereas through that we are attaching ourselves to the Creator. If we are drawn to this, if we are advancing to this then for sure we are going to start to feel responses from the Creator.
S. Which one is more successful to get us closer to the goal, reading the text with this kind of intention or asking questions?
R. It's not important, the main thing that we do inside our hearts that is the main thing. What is the Whether we want to connect with our hearts and within that one heart to feel the Creator.
25. S. (50:58) I would like to understand when there is a certain physical pleasure that distracts the friend from gathering with the friends, does it mean he is in a Klipa shell. Let's say there is a corporeal pleasure that is pulling the friend sideways, is this the shell or Klipa?
R. Yes.
26. S. (51:43) About the false heaven we are saying that we have to bless the bad as we bless over the good or even more and it is written, should be grateful that this is revealed in the ten?
R. Yes.
27. S. (52:19) I heard that the prayer has to be a complete prayer, how should we find this complete prayer inside the descent?
R. Thinking about this all the time, by thinking about it all the time you need to ask with all of your heart and to ask with all of your heart you have to ask for that. Then gradually such a place, such a desire will take place in you.
S. To be more precise I often times see that I am in it for a long period of time so what can help me?
R. Hold on tight, that will help.
28. S. (53:28) After the false firmament stands the harlotry woman immediately comes out holding that false firmament and taking part in it. What does it mean she comes out and takes a part in it?
R. These are different forces for and against connection which eventually guide us to the goal. One who seeks the path knows that all the devices that guide as must be built from two forces for and against seemingly and from those two forces we always discover the goal it is always like that. You cannot build it in any other way.
29. S. (54:24) Is it possible that the Klipa shells will take over us completely and we will be removed from the Creator until he leaves us?
R. No, it can’t be out of the fact that to start with we come out of the end of correction where we are all corrected and are incorporated with the Creator in all of our might and forces.
30. S. (54:47) Is the correct environment a guide like you helps us to maintain the correct intention for the purpose of life?
R. Yes.
31. S. (55:10) The shells and the sanctity are in the same place, does the intention determine if it is a Klipa, shell or sanctity.
R. The intention.
32. S. (55:24) How to feel the Creator’s wholeness when we are reading about the shells in the Book of Zohar.
R. When we read about Klipot or Kedusha we need to nevertheless understand that these are the forces of the Creator by which He is leading us to the purpose of creation, you cannot have one without the other relative to the created beings. The Creator is in a completely different system where there are no Klipa, there is no evil, there are no opposite forces, Him and Him alone. And we in order to feel ourselves in order to establish ourselves, in order to understand something and to stabilize something, we must be between two forces.
33. S. (56:23) The repulsion we feel towards the friends is that also a Klipot?
R. Yes.
34. S. (56:35) What does it mean when it is written that raising MAN for those who do not know when we do not know and we pray, can we cause any harm?
R. The system takes into consideration each and every one of our personal states, therefore we cannot cause any damage.
35. S. (57:05) I wanted to ask, there is a question that bugs me when the female presents ten complete Sefirot and the male the VAK, we are learned about the circles to lines and lines to circles but this is the relationship between vessels of straightness are lines and vessels of circles that the lines attain in the first six Sefirot and that is the conditions to go to the next degree. Is it similar?
R. I do not want to be confused with you, we are not learning these things for this time being so let's wait. Don’t connect a fantasy to a little bit of information you have acquired, it usually does not work.
36. S. (58:10) At the end of the excerpt he speaks about the MAN by the righteous and the Malchut of those who do not know how to ask. What determines this MAN?
R. What does the MAN decide?
S. No, what makes a MAN be righteous enough for those who don't know how to ask?
R. Those who don't know how to ask what MAN do they have, it is a deficiency they feel without any reason, it is not organized, it is not aimed. Whereas the MAN of the righteous for them it is all of humanity and on its target as they want to do good for everyone and to bring everyone to repent. Therefore it is the MAN of the righteous with certainty that evokes the forces from above, the above forces that will come and help.
S. A prayer has to come from a place of not knowing how to ask to the MAN of the righteous. First of all is this correct and if so how do we go from one state to the state of being righteous, one ten of a righteous person?
R. A righteous is one who justifies the Creator from the state he is in and if you get there then you will feel what it is. And then the time of the MAN of the righteous they justify the Creator and every state and therefore they only bless him.
S. The prayer comes from the state where you bless the Creator to the place where you curse this blessing? The prayer has to be built from a place where it is all the way down to all the way up?
R. No, that is not simple, it doesn't pass that way.
S. How do I decide where I go from a place, not just any palace but a place of sanctity where we can give birth to prayer?
R. Only through connection. You have to be connected with the friends and from the connection of the friends you awaken everyone to raise a prayer.
37. S. (01:01:02) The part awakens a fear of an impulse towards responsibility like falling asleep on the wheel and then suddenly waking up. We go through states, does it mean that we go from sanctity to impurity and if you are drawn to the friends or not something like that. At least for the young group we have to have the seed we are learning, we are learning about ourselves, learning about the system, opening up to the Friends about Mutual guarantee, something neutral. Can you open up for us for the newcomers if I'm right about my feelings, because the responsibility from The Zohar I understand that it gives us direction.
R. I didn't quite understand you but you need to understand that true knowledge comes from attainment. Attainment comes from the fact that a person is ready to be in a negative state and we'll only have the possibility from every state to bless the Creator.
S. When the group meets is there a mutual line we can start from?
R. Yes, we can start that for now.
38. S. (01:02:54) What does it mean that a woman of harlotry kills thousands of people, does it represent the opposite forces?
R. No, the Klipot does not kill the holiness, rather it gives us simply the recognition of where we are and how we need to overcome the Kedusha and thus find our path.
39. S. (01:03:48) Yesterday I heard you say that you cannot be grateful for the ego it is a lie and it wasn't clear to me because I'm trying to be grateful for everything. I feel it’s something I need to advance and today I heard you say that a person has to bless over the bad as over the good, so can you do some order here?
R. How can I make order here?
S. Am I truly grateful blessing for the bad as it is for the good?
R. When can we do that, bless for the bad last for the bad as we do for the good.
S. When I get a state that is not good for my ego then first of all I show the Creator and I thank the Creator for showing me my place in the ego, so I bless over it, is this correct?
R. No, no, that is not the correct discernment. First of all you are judging it relative to yourself so it is already not good and not correct think about this more.
S. I need to charge it according to the group, the ten?
R. At least.
S. I felt that this is what was missing yesterday but how do I do this switch?
R. You need to try to do this and connect with the group and towards the group see already what you are deciding, only towards the group.
S. How do we bless over the bad as over the good?
R. As you rise above yourself for the sake of the group then you start to see towards the group in a good way, the light and then you seemingly begin to rise towards the Creator and to measure things relative to Him as for the good and evil and then you can already talked about certain discernments that are well let us say, Mutual discernments.
S. A blessing comes after a certain process and not immediately?
R. No of course not, you cannot choose the correct blessing, the correct blessing demands great experience.
40. S. (01:06:48) I heard that you said that the MAN of the righteous is that which draws the forces from above?
R. Yes.
S. How can we ask to read from the state of a righteous or not a righteous?
R. I did not understand.
S. I also do not understand. I don't understand, you said we have to be in a state of righteous. If we are in the state of righteous we justify the Creator how from there can we raise MAN?
R. We raise MAN not for ourselves but for the friends or for the Creator and therefore it is not so important to me in my current state.
41. S. (01:08:28) What does it mean to kill thousands and tens of thousands?
R. This talks about the Klipot, the shells from the smallest ones to the greatest ones. Our desires in order to receive.
42. S. (01:08:59) You say that one moment is enough to lay many victims, then how to come to this how and to avoid this state what happens in this descent?
R. Yes.
43. S. (01:09:22) How can we understand what kind of shell or husk is working on me at any given time?
R. That we need to scrutinize in our work. If we do all that the Zohar tells us about it, then we will come to such states in which certainly we will feel these things, what forces are operating in is.
Reading 70 (01:09:51) “It is written about that, woe to those drag…”
44. S. (01:10:46) It is not exactly what we are reading but can I ask it nevertheless even though it is not related to the text?
R. Well ask.
S. In the ten there are friends who are not with us anymore, they’re retired, and new friends are not getting in. Do we need to talk about how these friends should go to a weaker ten so they will not leave Bnei Baruch?
R. That I cannot say. That we need to talk about and decide apart.
Reading 71 (01:13:43) “Rabbi Shimon said to the friends, please do not utter…”
45. S. (01:16:17) I wanted to ask about our work in the ten. It says don’t speak, do not utter a word of Torah which you do not know what we're here from a tree, what his greatness should be. When we scrutinize The Zohar in the ten and sometimes we go through the mechanical part and I’m being cautious that we could enter a place where we don't understand. How to avoid it? Sometimes there are even certain fights on it because some understand the mechanics better and some understand it less, how to avoid it?
R. We cannot scrutinize exactly if we are doing something right or not. There is always some possibility we are deceiving ourselves without determining with a question the goal et cetera. What I'm saying is that it’s not that important if what we are saying is right or not if we are answering the questions in the right way or not. The wisdom of Kabbalah requires straightness of the heart, it is not about knowledge it is not the wise who learns, that’s what it is written, you have to remember that always; it is not according to wisdom it is not about knowledge. We're advancing towards the goal it is the straightness of the heart, how much inside of our heart we are concerned about being aimed at connection, and that is in order to push everyone to be connected to draw everyone to be connected that is basically the penny that we can add, all the exertions of the greatest of Kabbalah, and accordingly we should appreciate the friends, and so it doesn't matter to me who knows more or less we know. In our world we used to appreciate people, to value people, to weigh them according to that so some are wise, and they ask and they’re really investing a lot of strength to understand and to feel that we are talking about our direction towards the goal–are we always concerned about connection.
S. Are all these scrutinize about The Zohar that don't bring you to connection, but they bring to separation? Should we continue those scrutinizes or what should we do?
R. Maybe then we should continue this scrutiny and even though we are content or maybe not content. From the summary what is important for us is that we see what is between us, does this induce connection or not, because wisdom actually parts people from each other and what we need to be is connected.
46. S. (01:20:33) In the state where to hold onto the Tallit and each one is pulling onto his whole side. Who makes the final decision? The person who joins, he receives some kind of help from above?
R. Who decides? A person decides according to his actions. There's a verse, two people hold the Tallit but each one is pulling in his own direction. Who's the one who wins? The one who says what's important for me is not my view but rather the connection with you, that is what he says to his friend to the other and he wins he succeeds.
S. In the excerpt we read it says that the person needs to hold on because he doesn't know these equal forces but he needs to hold onto a great person. I have a question, when you remained alone I understood that you didn't have a ten and you went through many such states. How's it possible to get along in such a state?
R. Do not take me as an example because Rabash disconnected me from the group and this is how I grew by his side and all the rest of the friends were connected, intense, I also had some kind of ten seemingly but it is not a ten, it was six, that's not what affected me. So don't take an example from me. I'm really not a model. That's for the better and for the worse the calculation will come.
47. S. (01:23:13) In paragraph seven it is written I didn't understand why the woman is the sin that kills people. Is it referring to Nukva?
R. Well we can say this is correct let us move on.
Reading 72 (01:24:02)
48. R. (01:27:01) Yes meaning with these four phases he created the world to receive and then he told what he told. What do we have?
Reading 73 (01:27:22)
49. R. (01:28:58) Yes with this he concludes this part called, You Are Partners With Me.