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The transcript has been transcribed and edited from English simultaneous interpretation, thus there may be potential semantic inaccuracies within it.
Daily Lesson (Morning) February 23, 2025.
Part 1: Continuing the Convention with an Ascent
Reader: Hello, we are reading selected excerpts from the sources on the topic of “Continuing Congress in an Ascent”. Excerpt number two. The study material is on the study material tab in the Arvut system. Anyone who wants to ask a question and is sitting in the front part of the hall, please raise your hand so the ushers can see you. Don't bring down your hand until Rav gives you permission to speak. Anyone in the Arvut system is requested to switch on the question mark, if you have a question. Please ask concisely and only on the topic of the lesson with thought of the thousands of viewers. While Rav is answering the question, please avoid raising your hand. Anyone receiving simultaneous interpretation, please put both earbuds in your ears so you don't distract the people around you. And friends from the world Kli who are also connecting to the Arvut system, please use audio mode. Friends from Israel are requested not to connect to the Wi-Fi but use their cellular data package. Please make sure the phones are off, or on mute, or silent so you don't disrupt the lesson. Please be responsible, be as quiet as possible with minimum disturbances during the lesson. Please avoid getting up unless it's absolutely necessary. “Continuing the Congress in an Ascent”. Selected excerpts from the sources, excerpt number two.
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2. Rabash. Article 6 (1991) “What Is, “The Herdsmen of Abram’s Cattle and the Herdsmen of Lot’s Cattle,” in the Work?
Reading: (01:56) In every beginning a person must start over the acceptance of the kingdom of heaven, it is not enough that yesterday he had faith in the Creator. For this reason, every acceptance of the kingdom of heaven is considered a new discernment. That is, now he receives a part of the vacant space that was devoid of the kingdom of heaven, and admits that empty place and fills it with the kingdom of heaven. It follows that now he sorted out a new thing, which did not exist before he took that empty place and filled it with the kingdom of heaven. This is regarded as elevating a new spark into the Kedusha. Finally, from all the ascents, he always raises sparks. End source
M. Laitman: Are there any questions from what we just heard?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:16) If we can't rely on the faith from yesterday, does it mean we have to learn to lose what is most precious to us?
M. Laitman: In what, let's say, today?
Student: It turns out that our vessel should be willing to lose the light.
M. Laitman: Strange. And what? Until this day, we didn't have light?
Student: We're trying to draw it, and that's the most precious thing for us.
M. Laitman: I understand that it's the most precious thing. But is it in us at all, the light?
Student: There is None Else Besides Him.
M. Laitman: Nice answer. And nevertheless…, we will discuss it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:43) What does it mean to scrutinize the new state when you don't know what you're going for? How do we scrutinize the new state in the Ten?
M. Laitman: If we, as usual, engage in the wisdom of Kabbalah according to Rabash, Baal HaSulam, and a few other Kabbalists, according to them, and scrutinize what state we're in, where we need to go to, what states we probably need to go through, it turns out that our entire engagement is altogether in us being on the path.
Student: Today, we will continue our work in the Ten, finish the Congress. We want to continue this ascent. The excerpts we are reading are a continuation of the ascent in the Congress.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: We feel this is a new basis from which we want to continue. How in the work between us, do we continue this work to a higher level? What should we do next?
M. Laitman: This began yesterday, but it continues today as well. As I am in the lesson, I hear what is written. The first excerpt was Rabash, the second one is also Rabash. The third one as well. The fourth one - Zohar, that's already from Baal HaSulam there. So, I hear these excerpts. Very special readings. We didn't choose them from the writings of the Kabbalists, but rather those who came before, the Kabbalists saw that it would be good with all the people, or whoever wants to ascend up the degrees of holiness, to read this, to incorporate in this. And thus, therefore, they write. And we use these excerpts, these sources, and we are immersed in them. It is, actually, a law that you incorporate in the words of our sages from all the generations from Rashbi to today, which is a couple millennia long, and that's how we do it.
Student: So, we need to incorporate with the excerpts now and the questions of the friends, and the answers, and go during the day and look at what we're lacking in order to try to implement what Kabbalists are telling us here?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (10:18) How do we raise new sparks from a state of a void, being in a void?
M. Laitman: I read something from the Kabbalists that belongs to the general topic of the Convention, and then it turns out, that I am incorporated in what I read. And these sparks, they rise above through my work, from the plane that I'm on.
Student: In reading the text, what causes the rising of the sparks?
M. Laitman: When I read the text, I'm included, incorporated in those words and sentences. I perceive them more for myself. I want to integrate in them, to truly immerse in them, and this is how we do it with all our texts.
Student: Without reading the sources, I can't raise sparks?
M. Laitman: Almost impossibly, not. Almost not at all. You're not connected to ... Just like here we have Rabash, and Baal HaSulam, and the Zohar. Yes. There are many sources.
Student: Another question. How to go easily through the natural descent that comes after the Congress?
M. Laitman: First of all, we don't think about this natural descent. It's not worthwhile to remember or note the descent, and that's why it's not talked about either. There's no need for it. If there's a need for it, or a serious need for it, let's say we want to do some other big gathering or convening, with drink and all the rest of the things that happen there, then we need to see whether it's according to our spirit or not. We usually don't do that immediately. Rather, if we do it, we do it in big groups. And that sweetens that period, somewhat. That which we feel after the Convention here.
Student: I'm asking not because I'm yearning for a state of descent, I'm asking should we have some sort of a preparation for our next state?
M. Laitman: Preparation is that they are gathering today. It could be as a preparation for tomorrow's state, the next day's state.
Question (Brasil): (15:17) How do we know, how do I know that I'm going through one state to another?
M. Laitman: You could say, you are now in this inner scrutiny of several things you had, let's say, yesterday, or today, or now and you want to scrutinize these states, but it belongs only to you. Why did they come to you now? You can't say. That's something you can scrutinize through the upper light.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:29) In the first lesson of the Congress, you emphasized a state of one heart.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: There was a strong feeling that we are really one. How do we maintain that feeling and develop it?
M. Laitman: Yes, that's our obligation to connect in such a way that our connection that we have today, now, will be swallowed or devoured within that state that we want to preserve and keep. And that's what we need to do.
Student: The World Kli that came here last week and during the Congress felt like a very powerful force that they came with. Now, in the preparation, the friends said that this is home, this is their home. Now, the feeling is, now that the friends are gradually leaving from the World Kli, how, by them moving away, how can we physically maintain that one heart?
M. Laitman: What is it that I'm keeping now inside of me, in my desires, in my thoughts? I watch over the impression I had when I was with all the people. And that's why it all depends on me. I know of people who record everything that's happening here. Doesn't matter, some nonsense that happens, let's say, or some talks happening. No matter what, it's all precious to them. And therefore, they record and take it with them home. That's good in order to incorporate with that spiritual force, that atmosphere that is here.
Student: We’ve got to be in one of the stands over there, and many approached us and said - it's precious to them. Many people only watch us over the internet and you see how much this path is important to them. Those who came here received something very powerful. What's the most correct way, when you get such a gift, what's the best way to realize it? Beginning now.
M. Laitman: We need to understand that each of us that was here entered this place and felt that and felt that, how should I say it? Well.
Student: Feelings, emotions?
M. Laitman: Yes, we'll say, felt those feelings, sensations. We'll put it that way. Those things are now dispersed around the world. Like it or not, we will take them and that's how it will go by. What else? It's worthwhile to talk about it with the people that weren't here. It's best to explain and tell them that what is happening here cannot be bought with money, or be heard in some concert or something. Rather, these are things that can be understood only by those who enter on this path from an individual heart to the collective, general heart.
Student: Tell what people? You said, tell people? Those who didn't come here or…?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes, yes. Those who have not arrived here.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (22:58) You answered the friend that if he feels a descent, he needs to speak about it in a big group. Yesterday, in the evening meeting with my Ten, we brought up this topic. Well, the friends brought it up, and I felt concern from them. I feel they are guarding me. They are saying now that I heard that we have to talk about it in a big group, is it not enough, is my own Ten not enough for that?
M. Laitman: The Ten is sufficient, but whoever has more - then more.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:08) How to turn the spiritual work of my friends into easy and joyous?
M. Laitman: We need at least a portion of the day, part of the day to incorporate with that great light that was here during the Convention. It won't run away, it's there. We just don't have those inner preparations for it. We don't have those desires that are pure towards Him. Actually, if at one point, someone were to incorporate in those desires, he would feel precisely the same state he had in the Convention. Therefore, check it when you go home, when you return home. Of course, this can be done with a book or a record or some recording, but try to do this without any aids. That's it - you, with the lesson, and you are as you are here. Remember, we did this many times and it always worked.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (26:33) How do we come from the expansion of the width of the vessel, we come to the depth because you told us we have to turn the width into depth in the Ten?
M. Laitman: I think you can't yet perform such actions. Very soon you will be able to. Still, what's important is to recreate in us, to generate the humanness, that sensation that we had in the Convention and raise it up, as urgently as possible, from the heart. Because if there is a suitable time and we don't use it in order to revive within us those states that we've experienced, we're robbing ourselves by that.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:31) In order to be incorporated in the righteous, what should be our prayer? To ask the Creator for the friends to feel?
M. Laitman: Do that. Ask the Creator to hold the friends together, and everyone, together will be concerned with one common state, all of them together. Then, you will have very powerful memories which will not disappear.
Student: Can we demand from the Creator to raise them to the level of the heart of our mutual responsibility, so they will feel what Rabash and Baal HaSulam or you felt?
M. Laitman: That's unrealistic, but you can ask for it. If you ask for something permanently, not for the same thing, but more or less, nevertheless, a necessity will be created in you to be incorporated into those states again. That's what I recommend.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:44) Through the light, thoughts come to us. How should we divide these thoughts into beneficial or destructive thoughts that disrupt our advancement?
M. Laitman: It's not important. A person doesn't need to be too deep here. We need to think enough that these are the thoughts of the Convention, these are the thoughts about us, our life together - we went together, we strolled around together. Meaning, do what's possible in order to revive within us those states we had between us.
Student: We are advised here to begin from the vacant space. Now, the same thoughts, the same information that came thanks to the light, what do we do with it? Because it exists in us. We can't pull it out. We rely only on that.
M. Laitman: If you think you are capable of attaining new connections with the light today, then do it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:51) After the Congress, is our obligation as a Ten to help other people and other Tens?
M. Laitman: After the convention, you must care for other Tens and how they advance, and then it will be good for you as well.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (33:51) If there is a friend in the Ten who is in a descent, with the sparks of the rest of the Ten, are they also in descent? Does that mean, it's mutual responsibility?
M. Laitman: It's through the Arvut, through the Arvut she lowers the impression of what we had in the Convention, certainly, but we can remind ourselves and remember the minutes, those special moments, that we are incorporated, that we are connected, not just between us but with the essence of the very, the very essence of the Convention. And this is how we advance.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:23) You said that faith in the sages broadens or expands our vessel. It makes it more subtle. What does that mean?
M. Laitman: A more powerful vessel that can absorb into it all the feelings, all the changes that exist in the entire Ten and to raise them up to that degree he’s in.
Student: Show me, please, how should we work so as to have that subtle vessel?
M. Laitman: That's why everyone needs to participate and to do it such that every participant in the Convention will try to at least be constantly before everyone, as one that is concerned with everyone's feelings.
Student: May I ask another question?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What is the relation in the work between that subtle vessel with the coarseness or the thickness that's being revealed?
M. Laitman: As great as eternity, as Ein Sof, endless distance between them.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (37:54) We always think that the perfect prayer comes from the bottom of the heart. You just said now that when we ask for something permanently, we feel the necessity for it. Let's say today my heart is asking for mutual responsibility in the Ten among the friends.Tomorrow or in a week, it may ask for something else. To what extent is it a different style of prayer that I begin today when the heart is asking and then it continues for a few more days. Afterwards, the heart may ask for something else. If you want to elaborate on it afterwards.
M. Laitman: What is in a person's heart now you can elevate that prayer to the Creator. That's the most important thing. We need to try to feel the Creator, like an embryo of that state, from within which it will evolve. This is number one. Number two I'll remember it and then I'll say it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:08) Is it okay when there is a feeling that there is a big heart and to enter that heart is needed to bestow my small stone heart? To get to that heart?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (41:23) The friend is asking, what does it mean to feel the Creator like an embryo? Like you answered before.
M. Laitman: In relation to its influence on me is very small. So, regrettably, I cannot make more efforts. As if it were to fill all of me.
Student: Because I feel that everything is the Creator, but I don't know who He is.So, how can I distinguish whether what I feel is really Him?
M. Laitman: We will talk about it and it will be, you'll have a clear distinction between being filled with the Creator in states where you feel only his influence on something.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:27) How does a person renew the forces anew each time? How does a person renew his forces in every beginning?
M. Laitman: This is called what the mind doesn't do time does.The times themselves are arranged in such a way that something changes. And along with it our perception changes, our feelings, our sensitivities And we also kind of go with the changes that there are in our general vessel. So, we need to think about it, understand that it's not so bad if we don't understand right now, it won't go away. We will get back to it. Perhaps when we are more prepared for it. And that's how we will advance.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:17) Sometimes when a person engages in the materials and the studies, he notes that the friends are not exerting to the same extent. What do we need to do? How should we relate to this?
M. Laitman: First of all, help them overcome with labor and come to those states, come to that same level that you are in. And then see to what extent in the next state he will be able to be with them in movements up and down. And in this way come to, gradually come to all the states.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:56) The empty void is a place that doesn't have the upper providence. How can we find in it and feel in it that spark that can be held on to and rise in Kedusha?
M. Laitman: When we attain such states, you will feel them a little differently. And there will not be such problems.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (47:48) What's the nature of the essence of a spark? And what's the difference between it and the desire to receive the sparks in? What is that point in a person?
M. Laitman: A spark is a tiny particle of the light that we have to attain. And in every person there is pre-prepared that great upper light that should shine for him. So that all this is already pre-made, pre-prepared in a person. And what we need to do is only make an effort, exert, make an effort so that what we reveal will be in our vessels. That's it.
Student: Nevertheless, a certain point in a person that builds this even when there's a desire and light, still a person remains. What happens with that person?
M. Laitman: Nothing happens with the person. What happens is with the light that is revealed in him. The person remains the same. The inner states change. The sense that feels the light grows. Absorbs more of the upper light, meaning the Creator. In this way they grow together.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (51:21) I feel an awakening of the point in the heart and I wanted to ask. I want to know what to do in those moments of descent to not come out of the path of Lishma?
M. Laitman: You need to want to be connected with the friends. And there will be such states where you disconnect from the Creator, but you always have a few friends who will maintain the connection. And through them, you'll be connected to the Creator. Simple.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:49) After the varied sensations the Creator provided us with, the understanding came that the change I want to happen is deeper than the level of feelings. Is that correct? If that's correct, then how not just focus on my feelings but rather enter deeper? How to come to the correct feeling and enter the system in a conscious, educated way?
M. Laitman: The Creator is giving us a connection. That connection short circuits between Him and me. And to that extent, to the extent that I discover that I have a connection, I can build with Him some sort of a constant line of connection. Now, the question is, how not to be... Well, you tell me?
Student: Imagining or disconnected?
M. Laitman: No, no, no. I want to hear from her. How not to be in an illusion, in an imagination as if I'm in connection, but to be in a real connection.
Student: Yes, precisely. Not within me, but outside of me with the friends and with Him.
M. Laitman: Yes, good for you. That's it? There are so many questions still?
Reader: Should I choose? There's a guy over there who raises his hand.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:45) You said that what the mind won't do, time will do. That if we don't understand something, we shouldn't be afraid of that. The understanding will come. You know, a few days ago, we did a mirror convention in Warsaw with our great dear friend, Sergey from MAK. And he always, whenever we meet, he encourages me and says, we have to go out to disseminate, and work with languages, and you know how to express yourself well. Why don't you go out with it? And I, I'm afraid that I don't understand something all the way, and if one of the students were to ask me, I would answer incorrectly. And I think that it's so important and scary to divert someone from the straight and narrow path. And more than that, the longer I'm on the path, you feel even that you're less, and everyone I ask says to me, oh, don't worry, that's normal. I would like to ask you because I think it's not just my problem. Tell me, please. Is it worthwhile to be fearful of not having a 100% understanding and because of that, keep myself away from dissemination?
M. Laitman: You have no right to disconnect yourself from dissemination. Rather, you need to constantly renew and re-engender the connection between you and the Creator. You must.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (58:03) Is feeling the light, feeling the Creator?
M. Laitman: Basically, yes. I'm making a parallel here. I can't. Is it equal? Is that what you asked?
Student: No, no, I'm asking about what Rav said, that there is a difference between Boreh influencing us and being felt inside us. So, I'm asking if feeling the light is the influence or if it is inside.
M. Laitman: It comes to us from the Creator. It comes to us from the Creator. He wants to say, there's the influence of the Creator in this, the Creator's relation to me. So, yes.
Reader: To excerpt number three?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Excerpt 3.
Reading: (01:00:05) Any overcoming in the work is called the walking in the work of the Creator.
Since each penny joins into a great amount, that is, all the times we overcome accumulate to a certain measure, required to become a key for the reception of the abundance. Overcoming means taking a part of a vessel of reception and adding it to the vessels of bestowal. It's like the Masach, the screen, which we must place on the coarseness, Aviut.
It follows that if one has no will to receive, one has nothing on which to place a screen. For this reason, when the evil inclination brings us far in thoughts, this is the time to take these thoughts and raise them above reason. This is something one can do with everything one's soul desires.
He should not say that now he has received rejection from the work. Rather, he should say that he was given thoughts and desires from above, so as to have room to admit them into Kedusha.
M. Laitman: Any questions?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:02:17) I went through a week here in Bnei Baruch. My heart became softer. I said hello to the friends. Tomorrow I return to Italy and I will be split between two lives here. One is the spiritual life, which means that I'll have my Ten in the lessons and my corporeal life. And then I have to robe myself with more tough clothing just to, not because I won't be able to behave out there like I do with my friends. In my work I need to manage a team and operate according to different rules and laws. How can I balance it and keep this heart, but sustain it just for the sake of the friends?
M. Laitman: We will begin to understand this gradually. Okay?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:04:10) Does feeling the thoughts of the friends, does it mean, I'm sorry, is it just a game that I'm playing with my ego, or is it incorporating?
M. Laitman: Neither. The things you feel of life, you feel maybe are after all the impressions that come and pass through the Creator and His relation to you, and afterwards they come down to you. That's the way it is.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:05:24) When bad thoughts come, how do we raise them to Kedusha, Holiness? What is that action in the Ten?
M. Laitman: It all depends on how connected you are to the Ten, on how much they elevate you, or that you bring them down. You understand? It is a calculation that is like you might remember from school, when there are several conditions, right? And we want to find something that is common between them. So, I think we can depict it this way.
Student: So, it turns out that I can prepare myself for that state to go through it quickly if I perform the correct actions towards the friends.
M. Laitman: Relatively quickly.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:07:00) In the beginning of the lesson, I wrote down that you said to scrutinize my states with the help of the light. What does that mean with the help of the light? How do I scrutinize it?
M. Laitman: You've been studying with me for maybe 20 years.
Student: Not exactly, but thank you.
M. Laitman: Only now you're talking about it?
Student: Why does the Creator erase concepts that we had inside of us already?
M. Laitman: So you can recognize them anew.
Student: Do I need to think of the next degree, or remember the previous ones?
M. Laitman: You don't need to remember anything, to be reminded of anything.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:08:11) How should we relate to the convention we just went through? As an action, as a preparation for the work that we will have in the Ten? Or to go back to some pleasant moments? I'm afraid to be stuck in that.
M. Laitman: Of course you might get stuck. That's obvious. The most important is a constant and increasingly precise definition of the final goal. That's number one. Number two. We need to constantly determine to what extent the Ten that I'm in succeeds in shortening the distance between me and the Creator. At least that.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:10:13) What does it mean to shorten the distance between me and the Creator?
M. Laitman: Those who are in that state understand what it means to shorten it.
Student: You answered Olga that a person can work with a Ten in this way. I wanted to ask, if a person needs to work mechanically without an open heart, and he doesn't do that, he has no strength and so on, is that the state of lowering the Ten and not doing the task that's upon me to do?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:11:25) I will continue that same question. Do I understand correctly that this convention is deeper work, and without expanding it we won't be able to advance?
M. Laitman: This congress is bringing you or should bring you into correct personal attainment of the Creator.
Student: What does it mean personally?
M. Laitman: Specifically for you, for each of you.
Student: For each of us?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:12:50) Two days the congress has passed and there is some quiet war. The convention went by and it wasn't simple. It was like this inner battle. Everyone is running from their ego. It's like a matter of life and death. The question is, how to hold on together to the state and not run away and keep that calm and patience.
R. If we had precise potential meters, precise handles that we could turn and intensify our participation in the revelation, these papers, these templates, then we would understand what it's about.
Student: Thank you.
M. Laitman: I think we need...If you succeed to gather among yourselves for another once a week, everyone together, not physically, of course, virtually, please. And then we will answer, write, talk about what is close to us. So, let's try to work it out this way. We have a very good understanding here about the essence of the group, and it would be a shame to lose it.
M. Laitman: Okay, let's answer them. Who are these?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:16:46) Is it possible to achieve true bestowal from the heart? In our Ten we give the friends whatever we can, but we feel it's not complete bestowal. We conducted a workshop and received an answer. In our language, we say that the back door has to be shut. In Russian, it's something like burning down the bridges so you can't go back.
M. Laitman: Okay. And what else is there?
Student: Is it possible to ever shut the back door and not go back?
M. Laitman: If you have serious, angry dogs, tie them there. And then you can learn, you can engage in the Creator. And in the back, you'll be certain that they will not run away anywhere. Then call me.
Student: Thank you.
M. Laitman: Otherwise, I'm very much afraid of them.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:19:05) The feeling is that we are taken into the open ocean with our Tens. What is that degree? How to continue living and reach the destination, the Creator.
M. Laitman: The Ten is like a little ship that can cross seas and oceans and every group you have, it's the crew on the dock. So, you can cross the ocean without a problem.
Reader: Rav, we will continue studying among friends?
M. Laitman: Yes, maybe.
Reader: Okay, so now let's start summarizing the lesson in the Tens, and we'll continue right away with studying among friends. So now, summarizing the lesson in the Tens. In gratitude for this post-Congress lesson.
Song: (01:30:28)