Denní lekce10.10.2024(Morning)

Part 2 Lesson on the topic of "Mingling/Inclusion"

Lesson on the topic of "Mingling/Inclusion"

10.10.2024
To all the lessons of the collection: Mingling/Inclusion

The transcript has been transcribed and edited from English simultaneous interpretation, thus there may be potential semantic inaccuracies within it.

Daily Lesson (Morning) October 10, 2024.

Part 2: “Hitkalelut” (Incorporation) - Selected Excerpts from the Sources, #3.

Reader: Hello, we are in a lesson about incorporation. We are going to read a selected excerpt from our sources, and we're going to continue from excerpt 3. You can find the study materials on Sviva Tova and the Arvut System. You can also ask questions there. Whoever asks from down here, please stand up and hold the microphone close to your mouth. Excerpt number 3 by Baal HaSulam.

Reading: (00:27) 3. Baal HaSulam, "A Speech for the Completion of The Zohar"

The body with its organs are one. The whole of the body exchanges thoughts and sensations with each of its organs. For example, if the whole body thinks that a certain organ should serve it and please it, this organ immediately knows that thought and provides the contemplated pleasure. Also, if an organ thinks and feels that the place it is in is narrow, the rest of the body immediately knows that thought and sensation and moves it to a comfortable place.

However, should an organ be cut off from the body, they become two separate entities; the rest of the body no longer knows the needs of the separated organ, and the organ no longer knows the thoughts of the body, to serve it and to benefit it. But if a physician came and reconnected the organ to the body as before, the organ would once again know the thoughts and needs of the rest of the body, and the rest of the body would once again know the needs of the organ.

M. Laitman: It is written in a simple way. Are there any questions? None. Well, let's continue. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:41) I don't have direct questions about the allegory. I'll try to go to what it means. There's friends in the group that we want to feel ourselves as one body. So, what does it mean that a certain organ feels a different organ? What does it mean that a friend feels a different friend? 

M. Laitman: With all the senses that a person has, he can feel another person. It's difficult to depict this, but this is what we need to believe, that this is how it is.

Student: Can I really feel a friend? Or do I feel myself?

M. Laitman: No. You feel yourself. And inside this image, you can also feel the clothing of the friend.

Student: What is the clothing of the friend that wasn't in me earlier? 

M. Laitman: Earlier, you didn't feel. You didn't relate. Or you didn't ascribe the friend to yourself. Whereas now, because you feel yourself, and how he influences you, here you can perform a certain action where you receive his impression inside of you. And you can continue with that.

Student: What impression can I feel? An impression from a friend? Isn't it the projection of my egoistic desires?

M. Laitman: Possibly, yes. 

Student: What friend do I feel? I feel myself. Except for that, what does a person have? 

M. Laitman: It is possible that you want to feel not yourself, but rather the friend, the way he is, unrelated to you, and then you truly attain his personality.

Student: How can I feel the friend here? Disconnected from myself, just feel him? I don't understand how can you feel an entity of someone that is not through me, through my vessels, through my desires, that it's really something pure.

M. Laitman: It is difficult, but, but it is possible.

Student: When we say to feel the sorrow of the friend, or to be happy with the happiness of the friend, so what sorrow do I feel? Of the friend, or is it my own sorrow, whether I were in his state?

M. Laitman: Here, you already see, according to your own words, that we have to perform a few actions in order to reach this result. We need to feel the image of the friend inside of our desires, my desires, and then try to disconnect them, separate between them, and then to annul or disconnect the image of the friend from within my own vessels. 

Student: What is the image of the friend that is an enemy, that it's his pure image? 

M. Laitman: There is no such thing. If you feel him, then he is clothed inside of you.

Student: And if he is clothed in me?

M. Laitman: Then it's no longer him or you but rather something in the middle. 

Student: What clothed in me? To begin with, I say it was in me, and to begin with I already grasped in those vessels that image.

M. Laitman: Right, so you perceived him, and you brought him to clothe within you, it means that it's no longer his or yours. 

Student: What was in me before that now clothed in me as an image of the friend? What is this innovation that's in me now in my perception? 

M. Laitman: His image.

Student: What is his image?

M. Laitman: It is his character, his relations. It's everything that you did not feel before, but now you do feel it. 

Student: And that isn't in me, what's in him? 

M. Laitman: No, it doesn't exist in you.

Student: Why do I need what's in him?

M. Laitman: The Creator has arranged it in such a way so that we will have a connection between us.

Student: That's in order to create a connection between us, I need what's in him?

M. Laitman: In order to create it so that we will see this connection as something that is necessary, that by it we can reach the purpose of creation.

Student: And that image of the friend that is clothed in me, that's something new, that's incorporation. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Are there exercises to come out of ourselves and clothe the image of the friend in us? 

M. Laitman: This is everything that we study. 

Student: How do I bring myself to more identification with a friend?

If I feel I don't have any empathy or feeling towards a friend. I just don't feel it. I don't feel his sorrow. Maybe everybody's sorrow with him, but I don't feel it. Maybe everybody's happy with him, and I'm not. I'm indifferent. How do I bring myself to that feeling when I don't have it?

M. Laitman: Everyone lacks that. Even the most sensitive person. Nevertheless, he doesn't have it. How should we behave in such a case? It's to pray, to ask. To ask that the Creator will bring us closer, that he will open up for us the heart of the friend.

Student: And if I feel that I'm becoming more indifferent towards the friends, to what the friends are going through. Not the friends themselves but what they're going through. My senses become more and more dull towards what's happening to them. So, what can I do? 

M. Laitman: You were given, to begin with, even before these questions, a connection with the friends. You need to try to awaken this connection with all your qualities.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:16) I can understand what it means to feel the sorrow of the friend, or the happiness of the friend, but I don't understand what you said, how to separate the image of the friend from my own vessels. That's the next stage.

M. Laitman: We didn't talk about that yet. We will talk about it. Yes? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:43) When we speak about love, it's a change in my relation towards someone else, or everybody, or creation. When we speak about incorporation, it's still a change only in me? Meaning, is there something mutual in incorporation, or is it still a change in my relation, when I include something in me? Do I, am I dependent on the friend incorporating me too, or can I incorporate him without him participating? 

M. Laitman: The other one is correct. 

Student: That I have to incorporate him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (13:39) How, me, as a separate organ from the body, how can I carry, let's say in happiness I can somehow be a partner of the friend, but how can I carry a pain, the friend's pain? From the experience I had, I want to help a friend carry his pain. There's a state a friend is going through, but I didn't know how to take his pain from him and to truly relieve him a bit. From the experience I'm going through now and everything that's happening in the Tens, in the group, I felt I can't, because it's not my pain. You see, he is going through it, but I want to be a partner, and I can't. 

M. Laitman: So, turn to him and try to connect your vessels. I have nothing to add. Yes. Good morning.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:58) Before we learned about incorporation, I was sure that my incorporation with the friends will show me, teach me how to annul. And since we started studying this a few days ago, I hear that before the incorporation I have to annul. That annulment comes before incorporation?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:37) I'll ask maybe a question of a beginner from the first lesson. But just to clarify a point. There are people that are very sensitive and that's their nature. They can feel your pain, they can even describe it to you. They can feel what you're thinking. That's their nature. And there are people that even make it their profession. What does a Kabbalist have that they don't? In the way they feel the others, I mean.

M. Laitman: A Kabbalist has the feeling of their internality. Their desire, where does it stem from, and where is it drawn to.

Student: Is that a feeling, or is it a discernment of that process?

M. Laitman: Well, let's say in between this and that. It all depends on the person himself. To what extent he is in researching, poking into and applying these things? 

Student: Why before the sensitivity do we need our heart to be blocked? Why first does that block come and then the opening? Why can't we just open gradually more and more? 

M. Laitman: Because every degree, every attainment in spirituality stands on its own.

Student: What does that mean?

M. Laitman: That it's not the same vessel you had before. There needs to be a new Zivug, a new coupling, a new development of the light. In the whole Ten vessels and so on. 

Student: And that feeling he's talking about here, about the whole body where the organs are connected. So that's what we have to aspire towards, to feel the whole body? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (18:23) The friend asked about feeling himself and not feeling the friends, that he feels that it's him. For me, it's supposedly the opposite. I can't feel where I am and what my qualities are, but the relationships with the friends, like I feel the friends' qualities. Can I recognize my own qualities, or is it just something general? All the qualities of all the friends? 

M. Laitman: It doesn't quite matter if these are your qualities or not your qualities. The most important is that the Creator wants you to scrutinize things through them. And he elevates you in that. 

Student: So, I shouldn't search for my own qualities?

M. Laitman: No. Well.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (19:16) What's the difference? Thank you. What's the difference when we speak about everything we're studying about in our work, when we talk about connection between the bodies, or when he's speaking about souls? How is that expressed? Here, in what we just read, he spoke about a body.

M. Laitman: It means the desires.

Student: But we learn that we don't connect in desires. 

M. Laitman: No. Well. Nevertheless, we do connect. We influence each other. 

Student: The different ways of bestowal is correction of the body, and when we say body, it's what you just said.

M. Laitman: Yes. Thank you. 

Question (Women PT 38): (20:14) After we take the friend's pain, how can we ascend from there and not remain with the friend inside the pain? How to ascend along with the friend?

M. Laitman: We connect with him, we embrace him, and we elevate both of us together from that place, that pit, and we elevate him until we feel that we can perform a coupling on that desire that we discovered with the light that will be revealed. That's it. Yes, please.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:31) A friend, for example, if he's distant, he is not a partner, and he's not participating in the actions of the Ten, Morning Lessons, and he doesn't leave, so I can't know what he's lacking in the work. I can assume that he's lacking importance, that he maybe has guilt feelings. He feels like someone that has such a debt in the bank that he doesn't know how to close off the gap. But in my relation towards him, in his state, does he have something that isn't in me? So, I have to observe deep inside me and see where I am in his state, and it's like the work is double. I have to row with two hands with the friends in the work, and on the other hand, also be sure that the rope towards that friend with the lifesaver he's in, that I'm holding it tightly, and to constantly pay attention to it, or should I pay attention while I'm rowing to make sure I have an active point in the heart that I'm supposedly sending him into the water, like having mercy with him, and maybe in the future I'll find a connection with him. Do we do everything, or is it better, for example, to just hold on to him? I have like this code, let's say, I don't know, from childhood or from the army, that I don't give up on anyone, even the one that is the most distant. Whoever left, left. Every so often he remembers, so we pray. But that friend that I'm inviting to the meal even though inside my inclination tells me he won't come, but I feel here there's a great opportunity now, there is a possibility that he might come. So, I have to keep going and keep inviting him, or should I just let go and expect that he'll acquire his world in one hour and he'll appear and sit with us. 

M. Laitman: How will he acquire it? 

Student: What?

M. Laitman: How will he acquire it? 

Student: The more I add efforts in understanding even though I'm not getting anything out of this, that his entrance or exit, that's what prepare that realities of the friends and the Creator that is keeping that connection to raise divinity from the dust. So, specifically that distant friend, he is before my eyes, and I have to add something for him, that if I'm doing this, I have to add a bit more, always. Fine, that is correct. 

M. Laitman: That's correct, yes.

Student: Is it something that's important that we discuss in the Ten?

M. Laitman: Yes, the Creator likes that. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:24) Incorporation is when I add the friends' deficiencies to me, and I pass the pleasure to the friends' desires, and then I enjoy in those desires that I've connected to me. 

M. Laitman: Incorporation is when you have common actions between you, in which your desires connect, and in those shared desires you can perform the spiritual action. 

Student: Before I heard from you that even if a friend doesn't participate, I can join his desires and turn them on.

M. Laitman: He can, yes. 

Student: So, he can enjoy in the friend's desires, with his desires. I restrict my own desires and pass it to their desires. Why can't there be a mutual desire here? There aren't mutual desires. I add their deficiencies to me. Or do I add my deficiencies to him? Or is it like a common baby that…? 

M. Laitman: Well, this doesn't matter really. What is it that you're trying to say?

Student: What I want to ask is that eventually this pleasure comes from the Creator. This is how I discover as much as the Creator loves the friends, and by that I discover my love to Him and their love to me.

M. Laitman: Let's say so, yes. Is that it? Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:53) What's in the friend except for his corporeal qualities that I want to connect with him? 

M. Laitman: What is inside of the friend?

Student: Yes, except for his corporeal qualities that I do want to connect to him, that I must connect to him.

M. Laitman: All of his qualities. All of his qualities. His whole attitude towards others, towards the Creator. This is what you don't have, and you want these vessels, so that through them you will also get closer to the Creator. Who else did we have? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:40) So, in order to reach the stage of love of friends, we first have to reach the stage of feeling the friends. 

M. Laitman: There is no such thing. Simply the feeling of the friends, that's it. 

Student: In order to reach the feeling of the friends,  first we need to annul.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what should we concentrate on? Is there a deficiency to be in all these states, or let's say I have to concentrate first on annulment? 

M. Laitman: The most important is to annul. Thank you. More? There is no more. Okay, fine. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (29:34) In the text we read, he is speaking about feeling the whole body. And there is a relation between man and his friend. Is the whole body the relation to one friend, and another friend, and another friend, and that's how the body is built? Or is there something additional on feeling the friends that is the actual feeling of the whole body?

M. Laitman: I don't know what to tell you. Ask that person. What does he feel? What is he drawn to? Which deficiency of the friend he wants to adhere to, he wants to implement the connection between them in which desire. 

Student: That's between him and the friend, something that's more exalted between them. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: And then he has some relation to a different friend. That is a relation that through me discovering more qualities. 

M. Laitman: Yes, and so on,

Student: and so on. So, the question is, from this collection of the friends, let's call it a Ten for the matter. Is there something new that is called the general body? Or is it already there between one friend to the other? There's already that whole body. 

M. Laitman: The whole body. Usually, the whole body means general desire that is common to two or more. 

Student: What does that more add? The more friends inside?

M. Laitman: The body is greater, more rich with all kinds of phenomena. 

Student: So, it's not enough the relation towards one friend.

M. Laitman: No.

Student: But from that comes a need for more.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:06) He gives an example of the organ that adheres to the body. And then the blood and all the information goes to that organ. In incorporation, it sounds a bit different. It doesn't sound that necessary like blood that brings life and practice to the body. When we incorporate between us, what actually goes through between us? What's this thing that comes to a person?

M. Laitman: In incorporation, what passes between two is what each one wants to give, to pass on to the other.

Student: Towards the body that we're trying to connect between us and the Ten. So, what do the friends pass to one another? What is that thing that causes them to supposedly adhere or something? 

M. Laitman: Participation, connection, incorporation.

Student: Maybe I'll ask from a different direction. In the human body, between the organs, there are kinds of pipelines that pass the blood. What are those pipelines between us? 

M. Laitman: These are pipelines that connect between us. And through them, we all receive that same blood that we did not have before. And we begin to be connected with this blood together. And then we can rise from this present degree of one, all of us together, right? Of one to two higher degrees. Degrees that are more special. 

Student: Before, let's say, we build that common screen, that with it we can build greater degrees. So how can a person connect to that pipeline? What do I need to do? Not in order to only connect and incorporate with the friends, but that it will be constant, permanent.

M. Laitman: How does it depend on the person? 

Student: Yes. To what extent does he connect with others? Not only every time to try to incorporate more, but that it'll be permanent, that a permanent connection. 

M. Laitman: There is no such thing as permanent. Each time, these are new connections, new ties, and this is how a person becomes more and more incorporated in everyone. Thank you. No.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:18) We always try to annul, incorporate constantly. Let's say today we have a Yeshivat Haverim on the Ten, we're going to sit, we're going to try to annul, we're going to try and incorporate, but the feeling is always, it's kind of blurred out. You don't really understand, I succeeded or not. My question is, when a person succeeds truly to annul for the first time, does he feel something else, or is it something gradual?

M. Laitman: Initially, it happens slowly, later it can happen with greater strides. 

Student: Does a stage come when a person feels 100%, now I know, now I succeeded to annul, to incorporate something new?

M. Laitman: Apparently so. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (37:23) organ he's writing about, is that a Ten?

M. Laitman: The organ that's no longer a Ten, it's more than a Ten, more, 

Student: and the first feeling of connection of whoever's connected to that organ, is it a feeling how he's sliced away from the body he is? So that's the first connection, 

M. Laitman: Yes, thank you. More? Oh, here we have only two or three. Haifa free. 

Question (Haifa 3): (38:20) Is the general body the whole creation?

M. Laitman: It's not the whole of creation, but it's some part of the whole of creation, yes.

Student: Another small question, is every attainment in adhering to the friends and the Creator, does it go through the authority of creation? 

M. Laitman: Yes. Thank you. That's it, okay. Now we have 

Question (Women Toronto 1): (39:06) On the clothing, I see a friend completely clothed inside me, so I feel nothing left of me, and I'm only feeling that friend clothed internally. What is the influence on that friend who has clothed in me? 

M. Laitman: If I connected with a friend, and he connected with me, then we are, in this clothing, we are as one body. I have nothing else to add.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:21) Let's say there's friends that it's very clear that they have a quality, that they're very purposeful. For instance, there's a friend that you feel that the greatness of the Rav is always living in him. And a different friend, let's say you always feel the greatness of the Creator living in him and another friend that Dissemination is his whole life and the other one devotion for the work for the friends and so on So each and every one of them He says that he lives it you see that's what he is How do you build a body from those wonderful qualities of the friend? How does a body get built from that?

M. Laitman: Well, it's like we Connect between us That is how we build one body that includes all the spiritual desires 

Student: The body has something living there's an interaction between the organs. There's common devotion. 

M. Laitman: Yes. Also, with us. We'll reveal that and What kinds of interactions. It's impossible to depict How much that will become revealed 

Student: So, we just have to Adhere to the wonderful qualities of the friends to an all towards them

M. Laitman: Just to work with them as much as possible and to see before us That same body that we build 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (42:16) We are learning Revolutionary process from two separate vessels one vessel is born. That's something completely new I guess that's already a spiritual connection with the Ten. That is just connected. It's like the commando Is that the beginning of spirituality

M. Laitman: yes 

Student: So, my question is there's an analogy maybe with this world that let's say the still All the atoms are connected there to great masses, but it's just a Simple connection and what we're learning about now. It's a transition from the still to the first level of the animate. Can we say that? 

M. Laitman: You can say that

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:22) I understood that connection and incorporation is two different things. That's what you explained in order to connect we're doing a lot of exercises. We have meals And in order to incorporate can we do should we do something different are we going to keep doing the same things 

M. Laitman: Through that we come to incorporation 

Student: So externally there's no activity or action that will help us incorporate more

M. Laitman: No, there are no other actions, 

Student: so how what happened

M. Laitman: It'll happen from that in which we want to be incorporated together In one desire in one intention with one goal With one thought 

Student: So, it's the next degree of connection is incorporation,

M. Laitman: Incorporation can, yes 

Student: I thought if I have to take the forces from the friends and each one what he lets it some each one has something unique that I can take an example from in some way incorporate one is good in greatness of the love the other greatness of dissemination the certain greatness of the Creator. He has words for it. So, in order to take the forces and incorporate We need more connection with the friends in such a way Or does it happen on its own 

M. Laitman: If you incorporate let's say with one friend so through that you incorporate with the collective of the group the whole of the group. And when you unite that whole of the group then you continue with that onward. I don't know how to express that. 

Student: So, how does it work? I see that it's important to incorporate with the friends when they ask a question, let's say.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, friend, that's the question, I incorporate through him, I incorporate with his whole Ten, even though I have no connection with the friends in his Ten, I don't even know who they are. So, through him, I'm getting it from each and every one. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, that's one thing, let's say in the lesson, we incorporate with questions. During Yeshivat Haverim also, a person stands up, a friend says something, I can incorporate. The question is, are there more activities?

M. Laitman: With all the opportunities that you use to connect, so you connect with several points in the entire group, and at the end of it all, it becomes like a bowl.

Student: Usually, it's subconscious, even subconsciously. 

M. Laitman: Even subconsciously, from there, it will rise to consciousness. Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:54) Rav, it seems that before we talk about incorporation, there has to be an element of annulment in order for the incorporation to start happening. So, what is the trigger for annulment? To slice something off of myself, so in that place, I can start feeling the friend.

M. Laitman: I don't know what you're asking.

Student: Let's say if I want to feel the friend, so first I have to annul something of myself. Yes. What is the condition for this annulment of something of myself? What's the shortest way to annul something of myself?

M. Laitman: Simply, when you're in connection with the friends, and you, according to the topic, according to the study, according to what you are in, you want to annul yourself. So, against that, to the same extent, you feel what state you rise to. You're not asking about that?

Student: No. Is there some mechanism, some trigger I can use? Also, when we read TES or Zohar, and we want to connect to the writer. So, is there something that lets us annul ourselves, and then supposedly everything he wants to give us flows to us? Or is there something that maybe I don't annul, and the text remains just blocked? Same thing when I feel the friend. The way I'm impressed from a friend, sometimes I'm blocked, and sometimes I'm with tears and excitement of his words. What is the most effective means to annul myself and be excited from the friends? Because if not, I won't incorporate, I won't feel the friend. It's like I'm blocked. And sometimes everything is open, and the friend, you just… Tess, what can you recommend? What's the best way to feel the friend in such a way?

M. Laitman: To work on importance. That those things are of utmost importance, and we want to engage in those things, and then we'll turn on other things in return, and we'll… Thank you.

Yes, Dudi. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (50:12) Maybe there are friends that are more… You see them more, they're more active, they ask questions. It's easier to incorporate with them, because they express themselves more. But what about friends that are silent, quiet? It's like they're like fish. You don't know what's happening there. How can you incorporate with such a friend?

M. Laitman: I feel those friends, I would say not less than those who shout and who are prominent, because their desire is even more prominent. And precisely those quiet ones bring this clarity.

Student: How do you feel that desire? Because what I hear, in order to incorporate, I hear his question, he's speaking about some action. I'm asking, if a person just sits and he's silent, how can I incorporate with him or through him? That if it's not through a conversation or speech, that's my question, how to incorporate with a friend, not through speech. 

M. Laitman: Through all kinds of qualities, motions, words, something.

Student: If I need to be with a friend in the same space in order to incorporate,

M. Laitman: It's desirable that he will be with us, yes.

Student: That means throughout the day? 

M. Laitman: No, it's not important during the day.

Student: Can I think of a friend and by that I'm incorporating with him my thought on him?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Okay, so incorporation is a lot higher than connection? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So why do we say that connection is a solution for everything, incorporation is a connection for everything?

M. Laitman: No, all in all, that's how we say it. Thank you. Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:45) In this world, a connection between people, whether biological or emotional, by them getting closer between them, that brings sensitivity towards one another in some way or another. When we come close between us in the Ten, and I feel the friend, and I'm sensitive towards him, how do we know that that sensitivity brings us to a spiritual advancement, and it's not a matter of conscience or things of this world?

M. Laitman: It is because here, on the basis of the connection between us, acts desire, the inner desire of a person who wishes to attain his purpose in life. Therefore, it is very precious to him.

Student: So, the purpose, to begin with, is what we come to the connection for? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (54:00) Can I determine or make sure that when I connect to the friends, I'm only connecting to that pure quality, with a pure intention, and I leave the rest out of the connection?

M. Laitman: No. No. If you can do that, so go for it, but if you cannot, if you don't feel what extent of cleanness and what quality in you, so that doesn't happen that way then.

Student: Is there something we can do as a preparation to the action of connection in order to slice that dirty intention off, and only the pure one will enter? 

M. Laitman: No. You need to do exercises with everyone, with all the friends.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:00) Can we say that that's the reason incorporation is the reason a Kabbalist needs to work, and he needs to go out to the world and be connected, because he's also incorporated there?

M. Laitman: No. A Kabbalist usually doesn't go out to the world in order to connect. 

Student: But still, we do have incorporation with the world. You live in the world.

M. Laitman: You don't really connect with the world. 

Student: Why? Each one is now going to work. And what else is his choice? He's in connection with people, he hears the news.

M. Laitman: But that's not the same connection we're talking about. 

Student: But it still influences. 

M. Laitman: Yes, sure, it influences.

Student: So that's also incorporation. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student:  And does a person have the powers to stop that type of incorporation? 

M. Laitman: There is a way of opposing that, of resisting that. But we'll go through that. Yes. Yes. Okay, friends. Well. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (56:28) Is there a connection between incorporation and the final goal for the benefit of the Creator? Is it something that can help us advance towards it, to feel it more? 

M. Laitman: Yes, that needs to be one and the other.

Student: Should that be the first motive, even? 

M. Laitman: Yes. Yes. Good. That's all. Is that all? Do you want to continue? What do we have next, Dudi and Moshe?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (57:28) 

We'll end with a song.