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Daily Lesson (Morning), July 8, 2024.

Part 3: Equals as One: No Friend is Strong; the Society is Strong

Reader: (00:03) We’re reading from a document with selected excerpts from the sources on the topic of, Equals As One: No Friend Is Strong, The Society Is Strong. I’ll give a short background. Rav, we are now in preparation for the congress in September, the congress on the topic, Strengthening for the Collective. We will prepare 10-weekly steps as preparation for the congress. Meaning every week, the friends choose a topic that they want to delve into. A topic that will help us grow stronger in the Ten, grow stronger as a society, as the world Kli. The topic with which we started yesterday, on Sunday, was Equals as One: No Friend is Strong, the Society is Strong. We had a Yeshivat Haverim and a workshop, yesterday, in the evening. During the week, we want to scrutinize it, talk about it in preparation for the lessons. This is why we brought excerpts from the lessons so the friends can ask about it and can go deeper into it.

Reader: (01:08) Equals as One: No Friend is Strong, the Society is Strong. Excerpt #1 from the writings of Rabash, Letter 42. It is written, “And the people encamped, as one man with one heart.” This means that they all had one goal, which is to benefit the Creator. It follows…

We should understand how they could be as one man with one heart, since we know what our sages said, “As their faces are not similar to one another, their views are not similar to one another,” so how could they be as one man with one heart?

Answer: If we are saying that each one cares for himself, it is impossible to be as one man, since they are not similar to one another. However, if they all annul their selves and worry only about the benefit of the Creator, they have no individual views, since the individuals have all been canceled and have entered the single authority.

M. Laitman: Are there any questions or anything to add?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:49) He writes in the beginning, “it is written, and the people encamped as one man with one heart”.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What does it mean, the people encamped? From camping, resting, pausing?

M. Laitman: I think, yes.

Student: If it's from the word, camping, why do the people camp or rest when they are as one man with one heart? Actually, it sounds like it's a solution, now they can advance.

M. Laitman: That's how he sees it in the scriptures.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (03:29) I wanted to ask about the topic of this document, Equals as One: No Friend is Strong, the Society is Strong. Why the strength is, specifically, in relation to the society?

M. Laitman: Because each one, individual, is not strong, there's nothing that makes him strong, except if the society as a whole is working with one goal. With one force, one desire, one direction; accordingly, you measure the society.

Student: When we weigh, we measure the intensity, the quality, is it measured in relation to the person? Or is it always in relation to the society?

M. Laitman: Relative to society.

Student: What about the person in this if everything is in relation to the society?

M. Laitman: Because each one is evaluated relative to society and the society is evaluated relative to its special goal.

Student: So, again, what is the friend in the society if, eventually, everything is measured in relation to the society,

M. Laitman: But according to how much he annuls towards the society and how much he's ready to be together with them from that. That's what makes the society, society is made of that.

Student: And what does each one add to the strength of the society?

M. Laitman: By annulling himself and raising others.

Student: Why a person's annulment gives strength to the society? If I annul myself, why will this now give more strength, more power to the society?

M. Laitman: Because you have forces, you have a force, that works against the connection in the society. And it works like that with each and every one, and if that's the case, there is no society, there's only individuals. And each one is pulling toward himself.

Student: Exactly, so, this thing about, from individuals becoming a society, starting to relate to their friends as a society. How does this transition occur in a person, that he stops relating to himself as an individual? And he starts to relate to everything out of the perspective of the society?

M. Laitman: He begins to feel that all reality in still a vegetative, animate, and speaking, they're all in one body. And if he looks at them in this way and he wants to connect to them, then accordingly, that's how he judges them, evaluates them. But it's not one person or a million, or a billion, or a million. But rather, he thinks of everyone as one, that they truly are this way.

Student: So seemingly, what emerges from that? So, when a person, what does it mean a person develops if he's not taken into consideration, but everything is in relation to the society?

M. Laitman: That's his development, he's one of everyone and he arranges, he organizes everyone. He gives power to the connection of everyone and to adhesion in the Creator.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:07) He writes here that everyone should annul and work for the benefit of the Creator. What benefit does the Creator need from us, what force?

M. Laitman: That we will be connected and adhere to Him, and there, we will find our place.

Student: That is, we work for our benefit, then, not for His benefit?

M. Laitman: Let's say.

Student: And the two equalize, meaning we and the Creator truly become one?

M. Laitman: Yes, because we are not working in order to receive for ourselves but in order to bestow to the Creator.

Student: In that state, we will be completely annulled. How will we feel anything?

M. Laitman: We feel by being adhered to one another.

Student: But my self is canceled, there, but still He feels.

M. Laitman: Your will to receive for yourself is annulled.

Student: But we always use it to bestow, to work above it, so we shouldn't annul.

M. Laitman: Above it remains.

Student: So, the will to receive remains but I work above it, it's not really canceled. So, the question is what is this annulment, then?

M. Laitman: The annulment is that I do not use it with the purpose of attracting pleasures to myself.

Student: Meaning an individual person can't do it because he's an egoist. So he needs the society for that, this is only the society is the true cause here.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (10:06) So what does it mean to enter the single authority? At the end, he says that we, the entire society, should enter the single authority.

M. Laitman: To incorporate in the Creator.

Student: To be incorporated in the Creator. So first, we need to adhere to Him, to His qualities. And this is how we should scrutinize it between us all the time. This is our correction, this is our correction throughout the entire path.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (10:37) He says that “as their faces are not similar to one another, their views are not similar to one another”. Then he says, “however, when they all annul themselves and worry only about the benefit of the Creator, they no longer have any individual views”. Is that the same action, when we care only for the benefit of the Creator? Immediately their individual views are canceled or are these two separate actions?

M. Laitman: I think they are two different actions because they are in opposition to one another. One is when I connect to others, and the other, is when I annul myself, meaning, two actions.

Student: Okay, now, why connection into one necessitates the revocation of myself, of my individual view, as he writes here?

M. Laitman: Connection requires individual annulment because they are at odds. If I wish to be incorporated with others, connected to others, I can't at the same time see what I wish to connect to myself and be above others. These two things are at odds.

Student: But still, within the whole, each one contributes in his unique way. So even inside the whole, there is a difference. The difference in what, in what each one contributes to the whole.

M. Laitman: But they complement one another, it's not in conflict.

Student: So, because they complete each other, this is considered annulling the individual view?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:41) If an individual is a result of the society, and the society, let's say, has a certain unique force. Then each one receives according to this force. So why externally do we see that there are friends who do succeed in, let's say, reaching the lesson, engaging in dissemination, volunteering, etc., and there are those who don't succeed? Why, if there is this collective force of the group, this force should be projected to everyone so that everyone could at least meet all the criteria, externally?

M. Laitman: Everyone doesn't share the same foundation, each one develops from his own foundation, his own basis. That's why those are successful at this and the others are successful at that. And one is more, and one is less, but in total when we connect relative to Bestowal to the Creator, there is connection between us and unity.

Student: It turns out that this is like organs in the body, each one has its own function in the Ten. One is more successful in, let's say, different disturbances and subtleties, the other one in dissemination and so on. So, it turns out we shouldn't complain to a friend because he's doing the maximum according to his foundation, as you said.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Internally, I understand it, but also externality, this is how it is because there are all kinds of external criteria. That, seemingly, I have a body, and I mean, on the one hand, if a friend, let's say, comes only twice a week or three times a week, so this is his foundation. This is what he's capable of, and I shouldn't complain to him? Or I can come to him?

M. Laitman: We can awaken in him a greater appreciation for connection, for social adhesion, the importance that exists in there. But ultimately, we can't influence him more than that.

Student: Seemingly, I can't come to a friend and complain, why are you not connecting enough, why do you not have intentions, because really there's no such thing, how would I know? But, seemingly, I can come to him and say, why didn't you come yesterday to the meeting of Yeshiva? Or nevertheless, that's his foundation and he simply can't come.

M. Laitman: No, no, we have to demand what belongs to the entire society; we can demand of each and everyone.

Student: Try to demand but whatever happens, happens, because, nevertheless, it depends on.

M. Laitman: No, no, it's more than whatever comes out. You can truly, you know, if the friend is healthy, if he's well, we can obligate him.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:35) What does it mean to demand from the friend if that's not his foundation? Every friend has a foundation, that's what you said, he has a foundation. What is this foundation that he has?

M. Laitman: I didn't say that.

Student: Okay, that's what I heard, sorry. How can we demand from a friend when he doesn't have the conditions for it?

M. Laitman: What conditions does he lack?

Student: For example, to come to the lesson, to take part in some activity. Is everyone equal in that or is everyone capable of the same?

M. Laitman: When he comes to the society, he obligates himself.

Student: And from that moment on?

M. Laitman: From that moment we can ask him: What's up, what's happening? Why didn't you show up, why aren't you participating?

Student: Okay, how can I judge a friend? Is there even room to judge a friend in society?

M. Laitman: According to the laws of society, you can judge him.

Question (Women PT 6): (16:48) If what is measured or evaluated in a society is, if the society is strong and we don't evaluate if the friend is strong, how will a person intensify his efforts? How can he check that he is contributing and to what extent he is contributing to the society?

M. Laitman: To the extent society is strong, each of its members is strong, that's it.

Student: Can I measure how strong I am so that I can get better or invest more? Should I measure it?

M. Laitman: If you are in a society and you understand its purpose and the steps that it's taking and you are following in these steps, then you are okay.

Question (Women Turkiye 7): (17:47) Do different views contribute to us being as one man in one heart? Or the views I have are something that I should concede, that I should give up?

M. Laitman: Again.

Student: Do different views contribute to us being. Well, the society has one goal, people may look at the society different ways. So that these different perspectives looking at the same society, is this something that I should cancel and annul? Or does it ultimately contribute to the society, the fact that we have different views, different perspectives?

M. Laitman: It can contribute, on the condition that it doesn't break any of the foundations of the society.

Question (Turkiye 2): (19:00) How can we become incorporated in the Creator, in the system of the Creator with the friends?

M. Laitman: Again.

Student: How can we include ourselves in the Creator's system?

M. Laitman: By connecting and being incorporated in this system, this upper system, that's it.

Question (Women Turkiye 4): (19:30) According to what I understood, if I annul myself towards the group or the society, I do not harm the friends. The question is, however, how can I make use of my individual qualities, of my character, in the right way in order to bestow to the community?

M. Laitman: You need to work together with the society, that's what we learn.

Question (Women Turkiye 9): (20:43) Is there an individual relationship between the Creator and me? I mean, I exist in the Creator, does He value my efforts, or the group's efforts?

M. Laitman: Yes, the Creator fills everything, organizes everything, it's a limitless power and is not bounded by anything. That's why it is so special, and it includes us and all the worlds.

Question (Holland): (21:34) As I understand, it's all about having no individual views, so it's all about coming to a collective view, together. And that means to benefit the Creator or, let's say, to worry about only to benefit the Creator. What does it mean to be in a collective view of benefiting the Creator?

M. Laitman: When we connect and from this connection of ours, when we learn what we are together? What shape we take together, then we turn to the Creator.

Student: How can we relate this, let's say, to the Creator when connecting to each other?

M. Laitman: Specifically, when we connect we have the ability, the possibility, to turn to the Creator.

Question (Kyiv 1): (23:04) How do we, as a Ten as a result of some internal exercise that we will do, enter the single authority?

M. Laitman: We have to connect, first, into one and then we can bring ourselves closer to the Creator and see how similar or different we are.

Student: What does it mean that, let's say, we gathered together. Seemingly we connect, we work together, we build a prayer together. But what does it mean that we all enter the single authority?

M. Laitman: This is the extent that we can be as one, each of us lowers himself relative to the others. And in this way when each one annuls himself, we adhere to the Creator. And in this way, we all become equals relative to Him. By annulling our will to receive, our ego, towards Him, by that, in this way, we become as one.

Question (Novosibirsk): (24:48) I heard that if a friend comes to the group, he obligates, he commits, and we can judge him according to the laws of the group. On the other hand, sometimes we hear from you that we shouldn't apply any pressure on the friend, but only show him an example that will work on him.

M. Laitman: From the side of the group. From the side of the friend, he must annul himself completely, gradually, not from day one. But from the side of the group, we must, nevertheless, understand that it takes place gradually and in this way, we influence everyone.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:43) You answered a question from a friend that if there are differences in the views in the Ten, it can contribute to the Ten, to the unity of the Ten. On the condition that they work correctly and are careful not to break the Ten, to disintegrate it. My continuation question is how do we work correctly so that the differences between the friends, because there are always differences between the friends. How do we make the changes actually increase the connection instead of disintegrating the Ten?

M. Laitman: Everyone must see that it is his work to annul himself toward the Ten, on the one hand and to increase the connection in the Ten, on the other hand.

Student: But how to annul himself on the one hand and increase the connection on the other hand, it sounds the same. Where specifically is my personal angle and someone else's personal angle, how do we make them work together so it intensifies the connection even more? Versus, if there was no difference between us?

M. Laitman: If there were no differences, it would increase the connection.

Student: That's right, but when we connect above differences, we say it amplifies the connection even more, no?

M. Laitman: And also, the differences, so it turns out that inside they are very, very different and on the outside they are one.

Student: That's it, so my question, therefore, is how to make sure that this difference doesn't break the Ten but only amplifies the connection?

M. Laitman: If we keep coming closer to one another with the help of the Creator who's connecting us, who's tying us together, then that's how we advance.

Student: This means that what connects us above the differences is the Creator.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How does He connect us above the differences?

M. Laitman: With His own powers.

Student: How do we use His powers? What should the person do in order to receive the forces from the Creator and connect with one who is different from him?

M. Laitman: He has to be in a constant state of tension, where even though these internal qualities grow in him that separate him from others that make him seemingly repel others, reject others. On the other hand, he's attracted to them because he feels that specifically in the connection with them, he can attain the Creator. So, there are two opposite things here.

Student: Then he should constantly place the attainment of the Creator above the inner separation that grows within him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Women PT 6): (29:31) What does it mean to be one in the Ten? What is that state where the friends who are different in the ten are actually one?

M. Laitman: They connect to one goal, they understand how they have to work relative to each individual ego. And they feel themselves connected in this way.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:17) I heard you say before, I wrote it down, that there are two actions that sound truly contradictory. So, I wanted to clarify it: One action is that I connect to others. The second action is that I annul myself. The first action, when I connect with others, isn't that through self-annulment?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what does it mean, a second action, that I annul myself? What is the difference then?

M. Laitman: In order to connect with others, I need to annul myself, that's what we do.

Student: So, why are there two actions, why is it considered two actions? I connect with others, and I annul myself. Apparently, before the upper force already, in the second stage?

M. Laitman: Yes, from my ego to the upper force.

Student: So, are there two acts of annulment? One before the friends, and the second, before the upper force?

M. Laitman: In effect, it's one action.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:45) We see how the connection really makes us annul towards one another. Yesterday in the Yeshivat Haverim, we were asked in one of the workshops, what is a leader in the Ten? Is there such a thing, a leader in the Ten?

M. Laitman: Maybe we have to do it, although we didn't have it when I was with Rabash. But it's possible.

Student: What does it mean, "possible"? What is it to be a leader in the Ten?

M. Laitman: As a person who changes in the Ten, each time someone from the Ten takes upon himself this role.

Student: He takes that role from another friend?

M. Laitman: Yes, it moves in a circle.

Student: So, every time he syncs with the other friends as one compared to them?

M. Laitman: It's not the same person.

Student: I understand, every time a different friend.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And then?

M. Laitman: We'll talk about it. Not for now.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (33:09) It's written that we use the desire for the benefit of the Creator as something that can unite us and connect us. So, the question is how can we define this desire because, it seems to me, that it's expressed through all kinds of different forms. One person, it could be to work in the kitchen, and he really wants to give to society. The other one, it could be through dissemination because he actually wants the whole world to connect to the Creator. So, the question is, is there a way to describe it because it seems so different for each and every one. And how important is it to think that I really want to do something for His benefit? So, it's actually two questions, sorry. One question is: Is there a definition of what it is to do something for the benefit of the Creator? And the second question, how important is it in my action that I'm thinking that that is my purpose?

M. Laitman: I think it's important.

Student: Is there a definition?

M. Laitman: I don't know, as much as I understood you, no. For the time being, I'm not reminded of any definition here.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (34:57) When you think about the future of the organization, is it an organization that lets everyone connect to the wisdom of Kabbalah in a way that suits themselves? Or is it an organization for those who are willing to devote their whole life to implementing the method, or both?

M. Laitman: Both, both, you know that it's very difficult today to find people that are willing to give themselves, devote themselves completely towards the goal, I would say towards the imaginary goal. And that's why we need to be as much as possible, as an organization that is in this world, meant for all kinds of people, men, women, who belong to, how should we say, the goal. I don't have anything else to say.

Student: How can it be both, how can society be built in a way that there's, like, two purposes? Well, not two, but two approaches.

M. Laitman: Why two, the entire society is made of being in connection in order to discover in the connection the upper force and to adhere to Him. That is actually the society.

Student: And if the society is divided into circles inside itself, is it right to observe it in that way or not?

M. Laitman: I don't think that that's the main thing, it's completely secondary.

Student: Should there be an aspiration to be in a certain circle, somewhere? Or does it matter where I am, the main thing is that I’m in the society?

M. Laitman: As long as I'm in the society and I go with the society.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (37:28) I want to clarify and not cover it up. On one hand, there are conditions that Kabbalists determined, and I guess they don't change, I don't know. On the other hand, we want there to be a place for everybody, and there's a dissonance, here. How to let each one feel comfortable; on one hand, we don't want to weaken society and cancel all the conditions and tell everybody they can come whenever they want, you understand we have conditions. On the other hand, we see that only 10% can keep these conditions. It's a small group ,and you know you can demand, but today you have tens of thousands, tomorrow you'll have millions. You can't demand from millions what you demand from individuals, but we want there to be a place for everyone. So, what can practically help to find peace between everyone because those are pressuring others because they want them to keep the conditions. They can't keep the conditions. So, either they leave, or they feel pressure and it happens in a Ten. So, what can you do except for love, if there's love in a family, I don't pressure everybody. I know what each one can do. So here love doesn't exist, yet; we're yearning for it but what could help lower the pressure and let all kinds exist?

M. Laitman: Consideration.

Student: What do you mean if there's no love, yet?

M. Laitman: I can't tell you but, nevertheless, we need to learn how to tolerate everyone.

Student: So, how do you learn, when do we start learning that?

M. Laitman: With time, a person comes to that, each and everyone.

Student: So, the light that reforms somehow will organize it?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:46) We're a team that socially takes care of groups in Israel. There are a lot of states where a friend comes and says, "I have a purpose in my life. The purpose of my life, there's nothing greater than that." And he feels that whoever's in his Ten and doesn't stand with the minimum conditions, that for him, it's like a threshold or red line, so he can't stand them. The matter of consideration is difficult to be expressed when someone says this is the top value of my life, so what am I taking into consideration? He's stopping me, he's disturbing me, he's ruining it for me. To justify the friend and everything, we send everyone to Rabash, the way he guides step-by-step. But inside, practically, when you reach a true scrutiny, it doesn't stand, it separates, it disturbs.

M. Laitman: So, what do you want me to say to you?

Student: I don’t want you to tell me, I want to voice this so friend can think about it, what to do with it. First of all, to give place for everyone, to show consideration. To give a place for every friend, to understand that corporeality brings everyone a different necessity and leads everyone to a different place.

M. Laitman: Patience, patience. There's nothing to do, you understand? Why did you stop reading?

Reader: (41:44) Excerpt#2 RABASH, Article No. 1 (1984), Purpose of Society – 2. We need a society that will form a great force so we can work together on annulling the will to receive, called “evil,” as it hinders the achievement of the goal for which man was created.

For this reason, society must consist of individuals who unanimously agree that they must achieve it. Then, all the individuals become one great force that can fight against itself, since everyone is integrated in everyone else. Thus, each person is founded on a great desire to achieve the goal.

To be integrated in one another, each person should annul himself before the others. This is done by each seeing the friends’ merits and not their faults. But one who thinks that he is a little higher than his friends can no longer unite with them.

M. Laitman: Well, these principles aren’t clear. It’s hard to observe them, to stabilize ourselves each time this way and look at the work this way. But these conditions are clear.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:43) Society has a lot of different people in it. How can they succeed in advancing in a harmonious way, that each one receives what they need for their advancement?

M. Laitman: So, this is how they advance.

Student: When you speak to society, when you want to lead society, you give a certain line, so how do you give a line that will include everyone?

M. Laitman: I don’t know and don’t understand.

Student: I’ll try to ask differently. We’re very different, one could be committed, let say, in 90%, the other in 100% and the third in 20%. How can you succeed in giving everyone what he needs?

M. Laitman: That’s, the Creator does, not me. I don’t understand, all together, what you’re asking.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:10) For many years, we’ve been hearing, here, I remember a few years ago that a friend said that he wasn’t able to wake up to the lesson and he heard the Rav from bed say whoever doesn’t come to the lesson, he’s like a traitor. It’s things we’ve been absorbing when we want to build true Arvut, things that are absorbed in the people.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: That’s one line, the other line is that we need to encompass all the differences and diversity. And, here, I think the main question is how can we, on one hand, stay adhered to the conditions of the Kabbalists meticulously, as it’s written. On the other hand, how to let it be expressed that we’re all different in these tendencies towards the Creator. How to sustain a society or at least a Ten in those differences?

M. Laitman: We need to understand that differences between us will grow, more and more, this is how the law works. And we will all have to be connected as one man in one heart, together with that, and continue to develop and grow this way.

Student: I see it in the Ten in the last few years, how we do this inner adaptation to one another. Because there are veterans that absorb in a certain way; there’re friends that come with, maybe, a different approach, so it’s a process we go through. Can I ask another question?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: The matter of love. Is there equality in it or is love always from the upper one towards the lower one?

M. Laitman: I can't say, love is usually from the upper one to the lower one.

Student: I'm asking because it's related to that. That you have to do these things with love and if one does it, maybe he feels he can't be equal to the others. If he needs to encompass them and be in love with them, and maybe they less, and me more. So, it turns out that he isn’t equal to them, and this is a dilemma. Should I be equal with the friends or should I be in love and then I, supposedly, disconnect. I'm the upper one towards them, I'm not in the same. So also here, there's an inner question in the work between us: How to relate correctly in the Ten to the friends? If this love is endless giving doesn't disconnect me and make us separate.

M. Laitman: It's written that love corrupts the line, meaning, and this is probably related to this. Where it could be the small one, and the big one, and the means, and each with their opinions and their forces and their qualities. And nevertheless, there is between them love; love, meaning that each of one's qualities, he truly wants to bestow good to his friend and his friends, too. So then, they each, as much as they're capable, are dependent on one another and are connected to one another.

Student: They're not in the force of love, a different force?

M. Laitman: No, through the force of love.

Student: Because one bestows, and one receives.

M. Laitman: So, what?

Student: It causes separation, it causes a difference, we know it's disparity of form.

M. Laitman: No, but we learn that whoever receives, also, needs to receive it due to the matter of desire to bestow and therefore, there's an equivalence between them.

Student: So, there has to be an agreement between everyone, not in the quantity of giving and bestowal. But as you're saying, that we're together in the same boat.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And then it can work.

M. Laitman: Also, not even in that. Where all one's tendencies towards one another are out of the fact that one wants to complete the other. To give him everything so that he will have love.

Student: Somehow it works out, you say, because in the mind, it doesn't sync. Also, what about loving your God because the Creator is a great one. How can the small one love a great one? What does it mean or is it not like that because it says love your God. So, what does the small one do towards the big one? How is that expressed?

M. Laitman: I don't see in love that there is great and small. That to the extent in which a person is great, he surrenders before the lower one, the small one, because of his love towards him.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:11) I heard a few cases of veterans or new students that feel that because of the demands of society are always for more advancement. And they don't feel that they can stand the pace, they feel they're drilling a hole and they're traitors, and that's why they leave, or want to leave.

M. Laitman: Again?

Student: I heard a few instances, also veterans and also new students that feel that they can't stand with the pace that society is determining. And that they feel they're causing damage and that's why they want to leave.

M. Laitman: But in what manner are they causing damage?

Student: That they don't have the conditions to participate in all the orders of society so that's why they feel that they're causing damage. Their friends meet for the morning lesson, and they can't. Their friends meet for meetings during the day, and they can't. Their friends disseminate and they can't.

M. Laitman: Yes, so what, they prefer to leave?

Student: They're very frustrated, they don't want to leave but there's an inner contradiction.

M. Laitman: So, what do you want me to do?

Student: Is there something you can tell them?

M. Laitman: I don't know, to do more hours in a day, every day?

Student: What can we, as a society, tell those friends?

M. Laitman: We try to go towards each and every one. We don't have the capacity or the ability, or maybe there is, I don't know, to go towards the families with their children, with their wives. I don't know but, all in all, we are giving the same necessary minimum that Baal HaSulam and Rabash talk about, which is daily study, early in the morning, where it's not day or night and that's how we advance. What else do you want me to do, here? To add another two hours a day?

Student: The question is what should be the friend's attitude? Are they really causing damage?

M. Laitman: So, there are those who don't come, or come twice a week, or twice a month, yes?

Student: They're causing damage?

M. Laitman: That's, no, each and every person, even if he doesn't participate daily and fully with the group. Nevertheless, when he's working in such a way.

Student: Should a friend, as part of his path, as part of his spiritual development, feel frustrated or guilty?

M. Laitman: Well, that depends on him but the society does not invite such responses from him.

Student: By seeing the gap between what society is projecting and giving him an example and what he can do. These sensations come to him until he leaves.

M. Laitman: So what do you want, the society to stop behaving this way?

Student: What is the solution for this conflict?

M. Laitman: I don't know, so what, from tomorrow we'll start waking up once a week?

Student: No, I didn't say, I'm asking.

M. Laitman: Then what?

Student: I'm asking, what should the friend's?

M. Laitman: Our attitude needs to be like it always was from Baal HaSulam, onwards. We don't come down from these rails, from these lines.

Student: Yes, of course not, we're not changing our orders.

M. Laitman: So I'm asking you, what are you recommending?

Student: Maybe to show a friend some attitude that we are encompassing him.

M. Laitman: Please, care for him, yes, care for him! Talk, explain, explain that you have no choice. That there are no other hours during the day and all kinds of things.

Student: And that we would accept him the way he is?

M. Laitman: What is like he is, that he comes twice a month?

Student: Let's say.

M. Laitman: Yes, we accept him and together with our work that we were trying to work with him, we expect him to change.

Student: So, here's, the contradiction: Either we're expecting him to change, or we accept him the way he is.

M. Laitman: We accept and expect.

Student: So, this is the contradiction.

M. Laitman: I see no contradiction here.

Student: Either we demand of a person, or we say that you're okay, you're doing your 100%.

M. Laitman: We can't agree with it being okay because it's against the order that Baal HaSulam and Rabash left us, on one hand. On the other hand, we, nevertheless, get along with him.

Student: Is there a place to change the structure of society? For example, to divide Tens into those that can keep the framework, keep all framework, and some partially, and so on?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: No, why?

M. Laitman: Because you're already, by that, giving, like, a number to each in person. To what Ten he belongs to, as advanced he is, as much as he nullifies. And no, it's not good.

Student: So, Tens should be mixed from all circles?

M. Laitman: Yes, and inside the Ten, they should all be concerned with each and every one to advance to a state that is more or less equal.

Student: How does that not harm the spiritual advancement of those who do want to keep the full framework and they don't have mutuality?

M. Laitman: I don't think there are as such. Don't we have Tens that truly observe the times, from A to Z?

Student: That's what we said, that there are friends in the Ten that keep all orders. But let's say from ten friends, two, I'm just giving an example. Or three, or five, doesn't matter, but not everybody.

M. Laitman: Okay, we'll hope that it will change.

Student: How doesn’t it harm the spiritual advancement of those who want it?

M. Laitman: Then what do you want? To collect together only those who can be there daily, eight hours, or what?

Student: I really have no idea, I'm asking what's right.

M. Laitman: I see that also in the times of Rabash, in the times of Baal HaSulam, I don't know, but in the times of Rabash, there are many that wouldn't come. There are many who came but in order to sit down and just talk and not to study. There were these and those and he tolerated them all, accepted them. We will see with time, I think we will change, and the times will change. And we will be wiser in defining changes in the society.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:02:10) First of all, I want to ask about the idea that there are no strong friends, but there is a strong society. I heard once from you that there are no weak friends. If the society is strong, so a friend who enters it will also become strong. So, it kind of bothers me when we say that there is no weak friend but a weak society. Here it turns out that we’re saying how can there be a strong society if there aren't strong friends? I don't understand this.

M. Laitman: But we're all different in terms of time or at the same time, all together, all of us.

Student: Yes, but strong in what? In wanting to connect or investing in the connection?

M. Laitman: In the investment of time, first of all, and in persistence.

Student: I think that everybody has to aspire to be strong.

M. Laitman: Okay, the friend.

Student: About what the friend asked, Baal HaSulam writes in The Last Generation that in a corrected society, not everyone has to be an ideologist or study in the morning, that's what I understand. If we reach a state where we want to include in us, not only friends who really want to be Kabbalists, but anyone who supports the idea and wants to incorporate. So, do they have a place, maybe not everyone has to study in the morning? Maybe we need to find a framework for them and support them, so they feel that they are part of society. Each one in their own place, even if they come for a duty once a week, that's their investment. That they won't feel that they are weak or not contributing.

M. Laitman: I agree with you.

Student: Maybe we should just change our phase: That if we’re aspiring for the final generation, last generation, change our approach.

M. Laitman: You're speaking correctly. You're saying it right!

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:04:46) If we take a family, for example, we have children, parents, grandparents. The responsibility is usually on the adults that can take responsibility for the family. It doesn't mean that the children aren't part of the family and that the grandmothers aren't part of the family. But there should be a way where the adults can support each other. And the children can feel that love is what lets everybody feel part of the family. How right is it to create such frameworks that the adults have time to meet that, let's say, the children can be a part of that. And that's okay, and that's natural because in that same meeting, the adults can support each other. It could be that there's an adolescent who also wants to be an adult, and he discovers that there are conditions to be an adult. And in our group, too, we see that there are conditions to be in that group of adults that support, who give strength, who give an example. And those who don't, it's okay, you're part of the family, we love you, you can come, we have a place for everyone, and the difference is only in the attitude. Because what I see is that a friend stops coming because he can't, he doesn't have the forces. We try to bring him back to life, there's no hospital you can bring him to, we try, and we try. And the friends, it's like self-defense, it starts distancing him. The friends distance him because they start losing importance, and naturally, the ego starts seeing him as a disturbance. Instead of putting him on a different level and telling him, "well, now you're one of the kids, we love you, you're part of the family. But you can't come to such and such meetings anymore. Meaning to have a natural cascading in society that will let everyone understand where they are and also supply livelihood to each one in the place they are. I don't know if that was clear.

M. Laitman: I think you understand.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:07:23) We need to learn how to hug and that society will try and see what that is or search in our sources how to work between us. Because why does it matter if a friend has a bit of reward in coming when I see a person’s difficulties? And we’re always measurements, we also see in the last generation's writings, how Baal HaSulam emphasizes that everything is by comparing all kinds of forms. But when I see a friend that, supposedly, we say he’s weaker or weakening, I see him inside me, and I do the overcoming. So, if I rise from this state, he rises with me; also, if I don’t understand how or what, I need to be in connection even if I reject him. Or if there’re friends that, I’m not fond of people who call people but once or twice, maximum, three, and I let it go but I see that if I lose the hug towards them. Sorry if I’m talking about something exalted for me, but the right hugs and the left supports. And the criticism and the scrutiny in the Ten that always warms and loves, he deserves more than everybody. Because eventually the center of the Ten lifts and carries everyone along with that hot air balloon. Who can measure there, the main thing is that the friend comes and whoever can pull, pulls, but you have to hold on to that hug.

M. Laitman: You are right, you are right.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:09:55) We have a friend in the Ten who regularly sends the article of Anything But Leave, from Rabash, part Three. And he says that there’s the landlord to this whole thing, that there’s a boss to it all. And not to forget to do what He says, meaning to turn to Him. The question is how do we remember constantly, in all these states that were described here by the friends that there is a Creator and how we involve Him in this story, in this thing? That He is actually the boss, then it will be easier to deal with our dilemmas.

M. Laitman: All right, thank you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:10:56) I think that many times, when we talk about the pressure of society; I think it is not the pressure of society but the pressure of the friends in the Ten. I think that many times, it is worth replacing a Ten, but we don’t have this mechanism working enough to be able to change Tens. To go out of the pressure of special friends that are pressing too much. It’s not the societal pressure, that’s what I think.

M. Laitman: Well, each one has another opinion, a different opinion. What should we do, Reader?

Reader: (01:11:51) I have two beautiful excerpts from the writings to continue the conversation. We have here, the Holy Shalah writes, though your friend is not equal in measures like your soul, you must tolerate him and love him, for the Creator created him that way. Again. Though your friend is not equal in measures like your soul, you must tolerate him and love him, for the Creator created him that way. And another one, Excerpt #7 in this article, Baal HaSulam in the Wisdom of Kabbalah and Philosophy, The law of love does not apply between great and small, as two real lovers must feel equivalence between them.

M. Laitman: What else do we have Reader?

Reader: We can move to Pirkei Avot.

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