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Part 2:

Reading #8 (00:09)“This matter is like a rich man who took a man from the market and fed him and gave him gold and silver and every desirable thing each day..”

1.R. (04:05:) It's not so clear what he means Baal HaSulam  he says ,I cannot feel my friend with anything about the greatness of the Creator or is he saying that I myself need to aspire to to build the creator?

R. It doesn't matter, he just wants to say one thing, our vessel can be unlimited and we must fill it with the greatness of the Creator and the rest of that filling won't give us any supply, a feeling that we are fulfilled, that we are satisfied. Only if I increase the greatness of the giver in my eyes I'm in the Creator, then it doesn't matter as much as I receive from him, I will fill myself according to knowing His greatness His eyes. Look at a mother and a baby, a woman and a baby. If the baby gives her some kind of smile, he doesn't have to do anything except for that but as much as he fills her with it, she is so happy up to the heavens. Meaning it doesn't matter how much it depends or is important if we fill the desire of the other in a way that is in a giving. That's it. So there's no problem here, to add everything to giving to one another if we raise the importance of the other. Ask.

S. Let's say that I know that I have a friend in my Ten that really has a problem. It really is disturbing him. What do I need to ask? For Him to solve this problem to sort it out for him to have the greatness the Creator will give him?

R. We need to receive, we can receive fulfillment from the Creator, to the extent that he is important to us, like the mother to the baby, if the mother is important to her, even the smallest smile he gives to her, fills her entirely. Same thing here, so why are you asking?

S. Meaning just like myself I don't ask for the Creator to fill me with anything except for importance and the connection with Him, so that's how I can ask for the friend for the same thing?

R. Yes

2. S. (07:54) The feeling of shame is important for our deficiency? Is it like our deficiency ?

R. Feeling of shame is a very important quality if it wouldn't exist we couldn't advance. The feeling of shame is necessary for the person otherwise he doesn't feel that he's receiving, that he is separated from the Creator, that he has anything to correct because all in all we need to correct the feeling of shame.

3. S. (08:42) I want to redo some excerpts. It's hard for him to tolerate the shame for the benefit of the rich one who is giving him each time. It's not for me to say this, but what shame are you talking about exactly where there is no shame whatsoever?.

R. Because your will to receive still does not feel that it is receiving and the main thing is that he does not know where he's receiving from?

S. But you see what is going on,it is disgusting. Each one for himself, each one wants to control.

R. That is on purpose because the Creator is organizing that in our human society such relationships, that we will reach a state that we don't care about anything and we are not ashamed of it or anything and we go out to the street and demand " where is what we demand? We want what we need.

S. Does it seem that we can change that?

R. I'm not trying to change that.

S. Is it good for you to live this way?

R. No, we are speaking about human nature with the help of the upper light, and the way that you want to change it are not Kosher, they are unsuccessful to begin with.

S. How do we do that? How are we going to do? You are drowning in this state. How do you think we'll ever change everything we see in the government?

R. You need to bring to all of humanity a correct, good explanation that you can change only by changing man and not by changing the systems outside of man. Nope,won't help you to bring tons of money, gold and what not, it will not satisfy people. They will still look at one another and find something and the other that is more on what they have.

S. What's your solution?

R. The solution is simple. The correct education to connect between people that each and every one more than his necessities he doesn't need, he exists. The rest of his feelings should be in spirit from above.

S. You said there's no chance to change anything that in this country we live in right now there's no chance?

R. There's a change but just as much as the way I am explaining to you.

S. You know what the problem is? The problem is that no one hears you. That's the problem.

R. I'm sure they don't because they went through your education for dozens of years.

4. S. (11:50) There's this feeling that the Creator is hiding greatly the feeling of Shame if we didn't have the feeling of shame we would be participating maximally in the morning lesson and we would have such questions. What is special about the same?

R. If we would feel what you're talking about, we will be forced to do everything automatically. There's many things that we do in our life as a result of shame and nothing comes from it. We need tto do, not as a result of being a shame to other people, but we will be ashamed of ourselves towards the Creator, that we will be ashamed that we are not worthy, not on the same level, on the same degree of the Creator. That's what we need.

5. S. (13:20) The feeling of shame helps us to the feeling of the Ten or is that a personal work?

R. Personal work.

6. S. (13:46) Sometimes a person when he performs an action for the Ten and gets a pleasure and joy and together with that he has a certain shame that he doesn't deserve it. Is that because he's not yet doing it as pure bestowal?

R. It could be it could be.

7. S. (14:07) Is not clear what he says that the man has not been born so he can fulfill their needs of the am in the market if he needs to attend on his own all that rich something all that richness.

R. Because it's only possible if a person at things on his own.

S. What does it mean that he cannot attain it on his own? He wants to attain, like he says according to this allegory these riches, he can go and work and also bestow, why is he saying he's not?

R. Where are you reading?

S. He writes this in the beginning and there is this allegory that says and the rich man said to to him , if so a a man is not created that he can fulfill your needs.

R. Why?

S. He says I want to attain all these things on my own? Without shame?

R. So?

S. So why cannot he get that? If the rich man is giving you all the riches and the gold and all that stuff feeding and giving all these to person I would like to take this on my own?

R.

S. Why is he saying that this cannot be?

R. No, no, no, no, we have to read again I don't know what you are saying.

S. Should we read it?

R. Great.

S. Re-reads item 8. This matter is like a rich man who took a man from the market and fed him and gave him gold and silver and every desirable thing each day. Each day, he showered him with more gifts than the day before. Finally, the rich man asked, “Tell me, have all your wishes been fulfilled?” And he replied, “Not all of my wishes have been fulfilled, for how good and how pleasant it would be if all those possessions and precious things came to me through my own work, as they have come to you, and I would not be receiving the charity of your hand.” Then the rich man told him, “In this case, there has never been a person who could fulfill your wishes.”

R. What is the question?

S. Why is he telling him that this can''t be ?

R. Every person that receives from the other feels that he got it from the other. That is called 'the bread of mercy' and against that he has a flaw. A feeling of a flaw. What are you asking about?

S. It's clear but he gives here the example that a rich man did get these through his own work. Why can't the person in the market achieve the same thing in his work?

R. Because he's not adding exertion, he's receiving it for free from the rich guy.

S. So if you were to add in efforts he would be able to receive the same way,

R. Yes of course, Then he will annul the shame by his exertion. What do we need? What are we doing through our exertion? Only in order to annul our shame. From shame we reach honor or glory.

S. He's telling you to stop being lazy and start working?

R. Yes that's what the Creator is telling us.

Reading (18:00) #9 “Indeed, we need to examine the heart and the source of this natural law, and who it was that fathered the flaw of shame and impatience that we feel upon receiving charity from another.

Reading (21:57) #10 “This is what gives us the foul taste of shame and impatience when we receive from others by way of charity..”

8. S. (22:56) These two items are not clear about it with the Creator, He created us opposite of him.

R. I do not understand.

S. He's explaining here the law of 'root and branch, but the Creator didn't create us like him, he created us opposite Him.

R. I can hear? The Creator did not create us?

S. Not like HIm. Opposite of him.

R. That doesn't matter. So what?

S. It is unclear how this whole thing that we feel pleasure and with bestowl. We are the opposite of that? How the law of root and branch work when we are opposite of the root.

R. Our root is entirely bestowing and we are entirely receiving, so what are you asking about that? So are we connected to him or not? We are connected by the fact that we want to receive from him constantly.

S. Yes, but here we can assess that the branch is similar to his root in its qualities.

R. Did you read (excerpt)10?

S. It says here in one and two.

"that all that matters is in the root and also the branch will love them, etc. and all the things that are not in them will distance from them and cannot tolerate them. If the branches are opposite then root, then it is opposite what is written here. The Creator like to give and we want to receive. We are opposite of him

R. Yes, so the question.

S. So clear what is written here in 9 and 10,

R. We like to receive to fill ourselves and this is the only thing we think about it and the Creator is the opposite. He wants to give and by giving He is filled and we are filled by receiving so the action it's opposite but the tendency towards is the same.

S. What is the same? What similarities are there between us and the Creator?

R. We don't have a similarity of the Creator. We are his branch because he wants to give and we have a desire to receive.

S. How to understand what he writes here but this is known to those in nature that every branch is similar to its root an close to it

R. Yes.

S. You just said that we are a branch of the Creator but our Natures are different we're not equal like him.

R. Are you reading number 10?

S. Item nine.

R. “Indeed, we need to examine the heart and the source of this natural law, and who it was that fathered the flaw of shame and impatience that we feel upon receiving charity from another.It is understood from a law that is known to scientists, that each branch bears the same nature as its root, 1) and that the branch also desires, seeks, and craves, and benefits from all the conducts of the root. 2) Conversely, all the conducts that are not in the root, its branch removes itself from them, cannot tolerate them, and is harmed by them. What are you asking?

S. We are seemingly opposite of them. Let's say in all the conducts that are not in the root, lets say reception. There is no reception in our root but our branch which is us. We don't distance ourselves from them or can't tolerate them.

R. Yes.

S. It's kind of the opposite, that is what I am saying .

R. Okay, that's how it is written but we need to reach it. Eventually what does he want to bring us to? The fact that we are opposite of the root and we can only feel good if we resemble the root.

S. He talks about the branches or the final state of the end of Correction

R. He's not still speaking about the final state or the first state. He gives us the law. The branch has to equalize the root and then it will feel good.

9. S. (28:18) We want to thank you for the convention and all the friends. We want to ask you how you summarize the convention?

R. I got a very good impression from the women. I wasn't in the rest of the things I wasn't invited to the party on the roof. To all other things the songs and the dances I don't know what. I understand that it is. I didn't expect more actually. so I thank you very much for the invitation and that it was a pleasure to see a full hall, big nice full and I hope that you will work in away that the next meeting will fill the hall and everybody will be more and more ready for this. I did feel yesterday that there were a lot of people in the hall that came as if by chance, sorry for saying this but that's what I felt. That they don't exactly understand what's going on here exactly and what we want from life and so on. Let's work together in order to strengthen our lives and stabilize them and to be concerned about the correct education between all of us, all the women and the men too.

S. Thank you Rav, yes yesterday we had in the physical Gathering 900 women and in the galaxy and other 400 participation we want to know how can we come to the next convention much more ready, much more with the carnival is so you will feel is really as ready for the next agree?

R. We need what can you do you will have to study, we have to study on our studies don't have to be from material that is too complex but by something that is hurtful. and that isn't pushing us into the connection like directly, in this way, you have to choose the right correct material foreclosed nice between the women. We are in a process that was never needed by women in the world I knew was always a man's business and we present it to women. So we need very well to see what the materials are put into order, we give it to the women and to check very well that is absorbed correctly and that it changes the women. That's it, let's hope that that's the way we do it. We need to check all the materials we need, to see what way we pass through our studies and then to see what happens next. We will organize it but we have to start working in it from today and actually so thank you for the successful Congress, successful evening and I really felt as much as we have a serious women. Thank you. From all the men are saying this.