Part 2:
Baal HaSulam. Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah. #160
1. S. (02:55) NRN of the righteous he wrote that they are Incorporated in BYA but I know the righteous are only in Atzilut are they? only one can be righteous if they are in Atzilut, so could you say that they are potentially righteous?
R. let them be in potential.
S. The fact that they are included from BYA, does that mean that they are wicked or else they couldn't raise MAN?
R. No, no, no, you are getting confused with things that we are not even learned or talked about.
S. Righteous, what are those vessels of righteous?
R. This is by the past or the present or the future, you have to scrutinize why they are called righteous? Righteous Tzadikim, are those who can raise MAN and correct their vessels.
S. They didn't go through a shattering?
R. They did go through a shattering.
S. Where do they get the forces to come out of those states?
R. I don't know, it doesn't say about it here. You are getting caught up on a word that looks familiar and you start to ask.
2. S. (04:50) What is the role of ZON of Atzilut which is the upper one to BYA?
R. The role of ZON of Atzilut is to raise the broken vessels to it, and correct them.
S. It is the upper one and a direct way of all the vessels of BYA or there’s also lets say Yetzira is the upper one of Assiya?
R. We will learn about it.
S. When we pray to the upper one so we are directed to ZON of Atzilut, when we pray to the Creator or to Ein Sof?
R. To Ein Sof.
I don't want philosophical questions only on point, what we read about here on which you want to ask.
3. S. (05:55) ZON of Atzilut, how to relate to it? There’re Partzufim of Atzilut and what is ZON of Atizilut?
R. ZA and Nukva of Atzilut.
S. What does that mean ZA and Nukva of Atizilut?
R. It means there are two parts of Partzufim.
S. So there are five Partzufim of Atzilut.
R. Of those five there are two that are called ZON.
S. How are they connected to the five?
R. I don't know, it is not written about here.
S. So how to relate to the ZON of Atzilut and there is Nukva of Atzilut?
R. There is Nukva of Atzilut and there is ZA of Atzilut.
S. But there are two terms that constantly repeat and I do not understand how they are connected to the Partzufim of Atzilut that we learned about until now?
R. ZON of Atzilut are ZA and Malchut of Atzilut. We speak about them because we need to correct them. Because Galgala, AB, SAG, and KHB do not require correction of what was shattered, what requires correction is ZA, ZON.
S. Why should they be corrected if they are in Atzilut?
R. I don't know, let us see. You do not want to participate in the process of the study. You want to jump to the solution, which you can't even start understanding what we are talking about. You want to jump. It is completely not the correct form of studying.
4. S. (07:31) He describes here the rising of MAN all the way up and then Mochin going all the way down, until ZON of Atzilut, the righteous ones. Two items ago we learned that in practice there are no Mochin in the world of Atzilut, there is a coupling on top and in the world of Atzilut to only VAK without a Rosh, how do Mochin go down there?
R. I don't know, we will see. We will see. I purposefully want to show you that you are not learning what we are learning. That’s it.
5. S. (08:32) What does it mean to participate in the study and not jump ahead?
R. To learn at the place we are at, what is he telling us about right now and not that if a few items ago we said this and that. What does he even remember or understand from there? and he is asking towards something that we did not even start studying we only read once. How is that possible?
S. If certain connections that we can make between what we studied today and what we learned yesterday?
R. What, you have some connection between this and that? What do you remember and what do you understand from this one time that we read it?
S. So ignore it, throw it out?
R. Not throw it out, God forbid, on the contrary; accumulate it and accumulate and get some depiction and see what works in it or what not, and then you can ask.
Reading (09:53) (12:31) Item 161 Twice
6. S. (15:05) What does it mean that on one hand it is lighting a candle from a candle and his friend is not lacking, and on the other hand the root of the light remains in the first place and then only a branch continues to the other part?
R. Whatever reaches the second place remains in the second place.
S. So what is the difference between root and branch when the light passes?
R. That is a root and that is a branch.
S. So it is less?
R. Yes, he is in a different place, meaning it’s a different degree.
S. The example of passing the light from candle to the next it’s not precise?
R. It is precise, just the upper One ignites the lower one; and the lower one ignites according to its qualities.
S. Why is this principle important? the lower one can only ask from the upper one that is adjacent to it and on the other hand all the requests rise to the level of Ein Sof?
R. There is a connection only with my upper One that is adjacent to me; because I was born from it and I get my whole life through it. And that is why I don't have any connection to anyone except for Him. Now what I received from Him to the extent that I receive, I can also bestow to the lower ones. Meaning to give birth to a lower one and awaken it, ignite it.
7. S. (16:56) Why does it say that the initiation of Mochin comes from Ein Sof?
R. Where else could it come from? only from there.
S. Why are the lower ones who are worthy of raising MAN included from NRN?
R. Nefesh, Ruach, Neshama are the discernments that are on the lower ones; Haya and Yechida belong to Keter and Hochma, that belong to the upper One.
9. S. (17:35) Is the result of raising MAN to cause a coupling and striking?
R. Raising MAN is to cause the extension of the light from above; to the place where it started raising the deficiency.
S. What is the correct result of raising MAN?
R. That the light comes from above to that place where the MAN started from.
S. And how many times do you have to raise MAN until we finish the correction, is there a number for it?
R. No.
9. S. (18:22) So it turns out that the system is entirely built for the NRN of the righteous, meaning that in the NRN of the righteous activate the entire system and the entire system begins to work out of an infrastructure only to pass on everything back on to the NRN of the righteous and from there off course onward.
R. Yes.
S. So all of it was just preparations only for that?
R. Yes. All of creation is just for us to be below and to be able to raise MAN and receive MAD from above.
11. S. (19:12) Only the one who was at the bottom of the ladder can activate the system or it works throughout the entire length?
R. Who can start raising the MAN?
S. Yes.
R. The lower one.
S. The lowest one, so anyone above him is only to serve him?
R. Yes. The upper One wants to awaken the lower ones; and He awakens them by Illuminating with His light. Each one that awakens, passes his deficiency even lower and in that way everybody raises their deficiencies upward. And then it turns out that from above downward there is a descending of MAD, and from below upward raising MAN.
12. S. (20:37) The fact that there is no light in the upper one when the lower one is asking for it so he has to go higher and ask from his upper one because he doesn't have it?
R. Yes.
S. Why in the system of correction called Atzilut we have such a phenomenon. Does it protect us from anything does it…?
R. Because everything divides into NRNHY, and if it’s not in one place it is in upper and upper and upper place and that’s the way it is until Ein Sof. Especially the MAN they raised there never had light, there was never a light; that is why this MAN ascends to Ein Sof, and from there the MAD comes down.
S. That's actually very interesting because what you're saying is, that the lower one by asking is his also bestowing to the upper ones, because then they need to receive light as a result?
R. Of course.
S. Can he ask for it for himself, or can he ask it from his upper one or is that too complex?
R. No, for the upper one he can't ask.
S. But the action itself causes the upper one to receive also.
R. If the upper one cannot supply anything to the lower one, he raises his MAN even more; all the MAN rises to Ein Sof. All the lights are in the Ein Sof.
S. But wanting to give contentment to his upper one is by asking for himself, raising MAN?
R. I don't understand the question? No one asks for himself. Nobody.
S. Also the NRN of the righteous don't ask for themselves?
R. No.
12. S. (22:54) Every MAN in the system that rises brings a new light to the system?
R. Yes.
S. If we look at this world, let's say a child and a father, when the son asks the father there are certain things that the father can realize and some that he cannot and in this system the father cannot provide anything and he has to turn towards his upper one?
R. Because every time the MAN is new. It is a new deficiency that was never there before, in all the worlds.
S. How can the upper one help the lower one grow up, if he doesn't even know what he is about to ask?
R. He cannot. Just according to the MAN of the lower one.
S. There's also the work of the other one relative to the lower one?
R. Every time whoever asks awakens a deficiency in all the worlds, in all the incorporations; nobody remains calm in his place, let’s say it like that.
S. What i wanted to say is that, there's also an annulment here from the upper one to the lower one, that he needs to listen to its needs all the time.
R. Yes, of course. It is like in our world, towards babies.
S. Relative to the babies we know more or less what their next degree is.
R. It doesn't matter to know where you will attain what he wants.
S. What's confusing is that let's say my son wants 50 shekels, I'm not going to go get a job and find a boss who is going to build a business and it's going to start rather every upper one has a certain amount and it's enough to nourish the lower one but here it is different, there is nothing, it is as if relative to the next degree the system is empty, relative to the current degree the system is in Ein Sof.
R. Every time we build a new system. You are right.
14. S. (25:25) He writes at the end of 160 that a degree cannot raise MAN or receive abundance except through his adjacent upper one, so why don't I turn to you or Rabash but I turn to the Creator?
R. I guess He is closer to you.
S. No impossible?
R. I don't know, ask about that too.
S. Ask who?
R. The Creator.
S. We are not talking about that at all…?
R. We are speaking about degrees; that you need to turn to the adjacent degree to you.
S. What is it, the Creator, He is that?
R. Towards you He is called the Creator.
S. But the Creator is the end.
R. No, no no. The Creator is what gives birth to a lower degree; the upper one above it that gave birth to it, it is called its Creator.
15. S. (26:27) He said that the NRN of the righteous do not ask for themselves so who do they ask for?
R. They want to perform corrections, they're asking for corrections. They are receiving a deficiency from above and want to supply that deficiency. The deficiency that they raise precisely to extend the light to fill their upper one.
S. Do they receive a deficiency from above or from below?
R. From above.
16. S. (27:24) It’s being depicted that there is a system that is completely static and all the time parts joined from below and then the entire system as one mass either rises or drops. and there is no changes in the system, let us say one two three, two will always remain two and three will always remain three and one will always remain one. And on the other hand we learn that there are corrections and from the world of Assiya it rises to the world of Yetzira, there’s an ascent in the worlds.
R. Yes.
S. And now what I understand is that this entire business is static and the system moves together.
R. Yes.
S. How did the two work out?
R. Did you see it like in the book of the Ilan, Tree, that he draws that all the connections are between the upper one and the lower one, and every Partzuf does not know more than his lower one and his upper one, as much as he can be in connection with them. What happens below or above them he does not know.
S. In the book of the Ilan all the world's rise, there’s Shabbat, Shabbat eve and all those things, so the entire system rises.
R. Right.
S. On the other hand, let’s take an individual soul making corrections in the world of Assiya and he ends in the world of Atzilut.
R. Yes.
S. Meaning that this whole system exists in each and every one, that is what the Kabbalist feels inside of himself, as if he’s starting in the word of Assiya and he's climbing up the system. But the system is a template that exists in him and he moves in it?
R. Yes.
17. S. (29:58) Does it work in reverse? meaning the righteous ones fall from their degree because of the shattering and all the worlds?
R. No. They fall in order to rise even higher, “1,000 times a righteous fall and get up”.
18. S. (30:27) It says that the lower ones cannot receive from the ZON de Atzilut before all the upper Partzufim in the world of Atzilut and AK, meaning that the MAN has to be strong and precise to reach the highest degree?
R. He builds all the Partzufim until the correct one and then that Partzuf awakens.
S. Can it be a MAN that does not enough, no cause…?
R. There's no such thing, this whole system is closed.
S. Every deficiency is received throughout the entire system?
R. Well let’s say so, in a relative manner.
19. S. (31:10) In the beginning of the lesson we were asked to think about the health of the friend, what did it do to the lesson, to us to the system?
R. I really hope that he will get some awakening and force to come out of that trouble. It is really something that brings a lot of sadness and let us hope he will come back to us very quickly.
S. I felt that this was a very different lesson today.
R. Yes.
S. Is it related to that?
R. Mainly yes. Mainly yes.
20. S. (32:18) The adjacent upper one, the upper's upper one are all in CHafetz Hesed and Katnut, and when the lower one raises MAN they add to that MAN their deficiency and that is until Malchut de Ein Sof, then each one receives MAD, and that is why he writes until the upper one does not receives, is that what he refers to?
R. Yes.
S. You taught us that when we annul ourselves in the ten, we are adding ourselves to a AHP of the upper one, and the a AHP of the upper one is in Katnut and we have to awaken it we have him to be impregnated in us, that later we’ll be born as small ten Sefirot, but nevertheless ten Sefirot, is that right?
R. Yes, yes.
21. S. (33:45) How to raise MAN correctly as a ten, as a group, so it will fulfill all the requirements and we will receive in return the influence of the Creator?
R. We need to incorporate with the upper one, incorporate with each other, and to raise a deficiency from us towards the upper One. All In all.
S. Sounds seemingly clear, but we are learning about such a complex system about raising MAN and the response to that MAN so how to keep that condition?
R. I cannot say otherwise then I already did.
22. S. (34:43) About the precision of the MAN, in our world a baby cries and then the mother checks what he is missing food, diaper change, when we cry down below our upper?
R. He doesn't need to check because when you cry, he feels that you cry and why you're crying and what you are lacking.
S. He raises to his upper a different deficiency and more upgraded one?
R. Of course that it's connection with the upper one because of you the lower one it is different.
S. The main thing is to ensure that there is a need and that there is a deficiency to ask and then the system will arrange it?
R. Yes, it is none of our business.
23. S. (36:03) You say that if you ask you always get an answer, even if you don't see it there is always an answer?
R. Yes there is always an answer just to us, usually you can hear it.
24. S. (36:22) In order to raise true MAN does a person need to know the entire system, he can't do it without it?
R. No, why? He needs to discover what he is lacking in order to raise MAN from him to the upper one.
S. I don't have to know exactly how the system is working?
R. You also won't know it.
S. But we are learning now?
R. The fact that you are learning you don't know, you learn in order to schematically know what it is.
S. When I raise the MAN and I do it from a true deficiency from there I will begin to notice the system to know the system from raising this MAN?
R. We raise man in order to every time ascend to a higher degree, to incorporate in it, and to that extent we start understanding how it works all those degrees, the ladder of degrees.
S. First MAD and then MAN?
R. We have a special day. Today, I didn't get any question from our friend. He is sitting there, why did you take the microphone now?
25. S. (38:24) Does the upper one exist for the sake of the lower one?
R. Yes only for that.
S. What is the NRN of the righteous?
R. It is what we need to add to the entire system as a deficiency and then that system will be whole just as the highest spiritual degree.
S. Does every degree break anew, I broke once I'm not ready to break again?
R. We do not know about that, we went through the shattering as vessels and more than that there are no shatterings, there is something that it is supposedly but it is not shatterings it is false.
S. Do I exist here in order to love my friends and everyone without exception?
R. Yes.
26. S. (39:49) Every deficiency even if you are not asking is it actually MAN?
R. Yes. Even when a baby cries that is also MAN and it's going up, there is no deficiency that is revealed only from that MAN that all of us need to raise it in order to correct the entire system of creation.
27. S. (40:37) On what dependent degree of coarseness of the man we raise?
R. On our willingness and preparation.
28. S. (40:47) It is written, the lower ones cannot receive anything from the ZON of Atzilut before all of the upper Partzufim of Atzilut and AK will grow. What does it mean that those upper Partzufim grow through those lower Partzufim?
R. The upper Partzufim grow by the upper one. It is like degrees like a ladder.
S. Is it the lower ones that grow?
R. The lower ones are later on.
30. S. (41:28) Are the Mochin like MAD and that is why it comes from Ein Sof and that is why it is adjacent to the upper one?
R. It comes from the adjacent upper one but actually comes from Ein Sof because all of the light begins at Ein Sof.
31. S. (41:44) As the corrected MAN descends to the lower one does it mean that the lower one influences the upper ones more?
R. As much as the upper light can descend below and below to lower degrees that is called that it also comes from a higher degree from above.
32. S. (42:12) In fact the entire system is waiting for the raising of MAN from the lower one and without it it is inactive?
R. Yes.
33. S. (42:25) Can you take the suffering of the friend and turn it into MAN?
R. All the more please.
S. How do you do it?
R. You incorporate with a friend you hug him and we raise both of them together.
S. What is the result that we expect from that?
R. That the Creator helps us from our mutual MAN on our deficiency, our common deficiency and takes us out from the deep pit to a high mountain.
S. Why is the Creator sending us and the world vessels such states?
R. So we can correct specifically by such states we can correct.
34. S. (43:26) On behalf of the woman Kli we are strengthening the family of a dear friend and it is important to say that many women are helping with everything that is related to that.
R. Thank you and we are with them and with his families and all of our friends around the world and let us hope that tomorrow we will hear better news.