Morning Lesson November 14, 2022 Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Faith Above Reason - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. #8
1. Rav’s Introduction: (00:22) Yes, we continue the same topic, a primary topic. How can we reach a state where the attitude toward the other, including the Creator, who includes all the others., outside of a person, the attitude towards Him, towards everyone and includes all of reality will become more important, more precious than the attitude for oneself.
How could a person come to such a state that is against his nature? Of course this is great work here in order to obligate all creation, the Creator, all of the forces of nature and everything that there is to help us. We'll be able to truly feel what's outside of us as closer than ourselves and then we'll have the correct connection towards creation and the Creator will be the closest. This attitude is called faith above reason.
Excerpt 8 (00:56) Faith above Reason: One should tell the nations of the world..” twice
2. S. (05:45) We need to win to defeat the nations of the world within as by power of faith?
R. Of course we need to raise the importance of the creator above all the disturbances called the nations of the world that awaken in us.
S. This relates specifically to the disturbances on the path or generally all of our life?
R. No we're not talking about our lives or the world, or how we are organized here, and a human society. no, try to disconnect from it. There's an upper force that includes everything in it and there are additional forces called 'the nations of the world', various forces of nature, and we need to try and lower them relative,compared to the power of the Creator. That's it! The more we do this work, the more we do this work ,the better we do it, the tighter the more importantly, so we will begin to feel more forces that are working around us in us. Only in this way will we be able to come closer to the truth.
S. When you studied with Rabash then in a very acute manner you changed your life, you cut off everything from your previous life and move to a different environment completely and we live here in this environment these views that are around us and it's very complicated with the news around us and everything and you rise above all that.
R. No you don't think that conditions were somehow better, no, no, now it was a different time, it was a different time, it was almost 50 years ago and so how can you even understand what it was like. The atmosphere in the world wherever man was, it was different, the attitude towards life was different, the technology and the connection between people is totally different. You can't even compare what was happening back then and what is happening today, especially the connection between people and electronic connections between people. Today you go out somewhere and you are freely connected to everyone, with everyone. You have a mobile phone, you don't feel that you're disconnected from people.
Back then if you drive somewhere, if you go somewhere, you'd feel that you are disconnecting until you get back. It's something completely different today. You can't even begin to compare the changes in the connection between people and the ability to communicate around the world. When I started to learn the wisdom of Kabbalah there was no mail, or connection, it was a big problem in connecting with one another. People would connect once a month. Sometimes when they came to gatherings, not everyone had a phone, not every apartment, so you cannot compare what we had back then because we don't live those same times.
3. S. (11:19) He says in the article to be thankful for all the correct arguments but he's actually doing the opposite action like wants to enslave them.
R. You're right, but the arguments are rightful and that's what a person feels all kinds of questions Awaken in him, all kinds of thoughts and desires and they all have a place but he who wants to go above them. What does it mean above them? To establish his attitude towards the Creator is the greatest and most important, most special thing that there is. That's it. That I constantly think about how to relate to the Creator. That's what seems important to me.
4. S. (12:51) If the nation's within us are the left side, when we correct we correct the nations of the world, can you explain the process?
R. We correct the nations of the world and we want our attitude to the Creator and the connection between us will be more important than any thoughts or any egoistic desires that awaken in us. That's what we want, it's the only thing we want. We need to learn about our friends, how we raise the importance of the friends more than anything in this world and then the second phase is how much we raise the importance of the creator compared to all the friends. He is the inclusive one. He has the highest one. In this way we then come to a state which has the full above reason.
5. S. (14:39) This quote item eight does it describe a person rising from reason to above reason.
R. Yes.
S. Because it sounds like a state of already above reason.
R. Think about it, accept it this way.
6. S. (15:00) What does it mean that there is reason basically?
R. Reason is what exists in my feelings and in my intellect. I actually accordingly, above reason is when I prefer the actions of the friends and the Creator more than what my mind demands.
S. Where do I receive this reason each time that I need to rise above?
R. From your body, from your mind and your feelings and what you feel, how you understand and organize the world and you assign importance to every aspect in the world. This is called your reason. The fact that you want to understand and to feel that there are things that are more important than your opinion is called 'above reason'.
S. How much do the friends really contribute to faith above reason?
R. The friend each one of them is in a state where he labors to give importance to the other, to the friends and to the Creator, this is the meaning to trying to raise faith above reason and an attitude towards the friend and the Creator to be greater than how his nature is showing it to be.
7. S. (17:17) It says here if there is no faith within reason he cannot make it to faith above reason, what does it mean to not have faith within reason?
R. Faith within reason for now, for the time being, we are talking for the time being faith within reason is my correct attitude for the time being to the friends into the Creator. This is called 'within reason'. The desired state that I want to come to me soon will become 'faith above reason'. This will be my attitude towards the friends and towards the Creator and it will be with greater importance compared to how I relate to them today, both the group and the Creator.
8. S. (18:43) A few lessons ago we talked about how the corporeal world thanks to faith above, can transform it into a spiritual world and I didn't understand how it turns out that for every every element we asked to transform something from reception to bestowal?
R. There's no such thing. I don't pray for anything in the world except for the friends and the Creator who may raise an importance in my eyes and my understanding and my awareness and my attitude towards them, my appreciation towards them. more than what I have for them today.
S. If I see in the Ten that there are qualities of reception, can I buy faith above reason? Can I ask that they will become qualities of bestowal?
R. We're not talking about praying for friends so they will change, rather we pray for how I should change, me. the person, the human being. What we pray for for the friend, that's something else. We will come to it. First let's arrange a study of humans that relates to this group and the Creator.
9. S. (20:32) A question about the duality of the Creator towards us, on the one hand the Creator sends us troubles so that we have suffering and deficiency to ask the Creator for a solution on the other hand, the Creator himself solves our problems so this duality of the Creator will it always stay throughout our spiritual path or at some point the Creator will give us more Independence in solving the problem in partnership with the Creator
R. We will become more independent, we will understand more, we will be stronger, and at the same time problems will be on a different level.
10. S. (21:40) The scrutiny of faith above reason and within reason, is faith within reason, faith in reward and punishment and what is faith above reason?
R. There's no difference between them except that faith within reason is my corporeal attitude, my material egoistic attitude, my normal attitude towards everyone and this is called faith within reason, and faith above reason is when I arrange or establish the power of bestowal, the Creator, the group higher than anything and everything and I wish to relate to them in this way. Truthfully, although I may feel that I do not possess such an attitude towards them just yet.
S. And this is what we show in our work in persistence?
R. Yes, precisely.
11. S. (23:05) What's the difference between all of the thoughts in the work and how to use them to rise above reason?
R. I need to Imagine to myself the importance of the force of bestowal, the force of the Creator, the force of the society, the friends, as the most exalted things, in comparable to what I typically consider as important and to constantly go back to these things, and more and more raise the importance, raise the importance of the group and of connection, the corrected vessel, the Creator that fills it, so that all those discernments will be before me as a necessary goal.
12. S. (24:44) There's an interesting approach here towards the nations of the world within me, I have to relate to them in a way that I don't change them but accept them in that they exist and I join them to me, why is it in such a way that I don't cancel them, I have to accept them, but I have to work to go above reason?
R. Because we cannot do it, we have such circumstances a state of a person at any given moment where he cannot annul his egoistic desires but he can nevertheless imagine to himself how inside of him different desires of love and bestowal and appear in him, a desire for connection, and they can be higher than his usual egoistic desires.
13. S. (26:11) Do we come first to connection with the friends or faith above reason?
R. The desire to reach faith above reason brings us to necessity, to be connected with the friends, otherwise we will not reach faith above reason. To the extent we have the tendency to connect between us in the ten, to that extent we begin to feel the spiritual power that the ten awakens in each one of us.
14. S. (27:08) You recently said I will change my approach to my friends before praying, so does it mean I will pray for my connection first, what does it mean to change my approach?
R. A person begins to imagine that the ten that the Creator invited before him is really the vessel of Adam HaRishon, and he needs to bring to correction. That's it.
15. S. (28:14) How do I increase the importance of the friends and the Creator from day to day?
R. You think about it as much as possible, you think about it and try to hear about it from others, try to bestow that to them, and even though you're speaking empty words, gradually they will assume importance for each and every one.
S. And how does the importance of the friends and the Creator help cope with the disturbances?
R. We have no disturbances except in importance, lack of importance of the society, of the Creator in our eyes, this is really all of the disturbance.
S. But once there's importance of the friends and the Creator it covers the disturbances?
R. Yes certainly. If the importance of the Creator and the importance of the friends grows in me, increases in me, I have no more problems, I need only to care about that.
16. S. (29:50) If we see in the ten a friend who we think fell into his reason and feelings and what he thinks, do we need to pray for him to come out of it or it's an incorrect observation to see where the friend is?
R. No, typically we don't speak like that with the friends we try to, each one, we try and raise the importance of the society and the connection and this is what we do towards our next degree, our next state, and we should see it through others where I truly yearn for it.
S. And a friend who kind of pushes himself away from the ten because of some reason?
R. We need to see that these are the disturbances that come to him and they bring him down, as we see it with our eyes, although they have eyes but they cannot see, who knows, but we then need to strengthen the situation around him, we to show him without words how much we connect and how much we appreciate the connection between us and from between us to the Creator in all kinds of different ways.
S. And to pray, to ask for him?
R. That is clear, I'm talking about something more tangible, it's clear, more visual, he needs to see that we are connected, that we are drawn towards one another.
17. S. (31:56) I heard you say that we should think of how do I relate to the Creator, what does it mean?
R. What does it mean to relate to the Creator, I cannot tell you, you need to scrutinize it, how do you relate to the Creator?
S. Because most of the time if I think of spirituality and the goal then I think of the friends and I pray for them, what does it mean that I think of my attitude to the Creator?
R. Think about it and then see what it is, I cannot tell you what it is, you need to uncover it. What is my attitude towards the Creator, yes?
S. But what does it mean to relate to the Creator, like the quality of bestowal, or what?
R. How much my connection with the Creator is more important compared to all the other connections I have.
18. S. (33:07) Is going above reason always a painful action?
R. It's not painful, on the contrary, it raises us and lifts us up and cleanses us. It’s not painful.
19. S. (33:38) You mentioned before the different periods of time and external conditions we have, if you can turn to a specific advantage that each friend is in a ten today, how to use the ten most correctly to rise above reason?
R. When I value the ten as more important than any personal state that I go through and then I constantly think about it, what's happening with them, how were they coming along, how do I contribute to them, and so on and so forth. Just as Rabash writes about the attitude towards the society and the environment.
20. S. (34:42) It's not the wise who learns, what it relates to more, the work within reason or above reason?
R. It's not the wise who learns, meaning that the person cannot learn according to his intellect and mental discernments, but rather he has to go according to emotional discernments. In our world we prefer the mind and the intellect, because the world is like that, it's mechanical, intellectual, but in spirituality we wish to not work with our mind, which is a beastly mind, rather we wish to work with our with our feelings, with our spiritual feelings, a desire is a feeling and it should be spiritual one in the relationships between us and from between us to the Creator. Think about it.
21. S. (36:03) In rising above reason, our view towards the reason itself, does it change or our perception changes?
R. Yes.
S. How can we help the friends in that, in rising above reason?
R. We ourselves are going forward and sometimes we can perform mutual actions between us.
22. S. (36:45) Yes about this concept of faith above reason, is it a Kli or a means by which the person builds together with the Creator in every state of ascent of the degree?
R. Yes.
23. S. (37:14) When a person receives resistance and criticism during the lesson and it bothers him is that also called nations of the world?
R. Yes.
S. And is now then the time to ask for faith above reason, that's exactly the time?
R. Yes.
S. And it can take the whole lesson and a person will always be in thoughts, is there any trick or something to speed it up?
R. You will see it from experience, but do not worry, if you think about the importance of bestowal, of connection, compared to all the other states, then you're not losing anything, you're only gaining.
S. So a person can be immersed in all these thoughts and thinking about the greatness and asking?
R. Importance, importance.
Reading excerpt number 9 (39:26) “there is emptiness only where there is a place..”
24. R. (41:41) Written beautifully and succinctly that wherever we feel emptiness that is the place to bring into it the filling of the Creator that the Creator would fill the empty spaces because He himself is preparing it.
25. S. (42:05) This relates to any feeling of emptiness in life?
R. Yes, anything empty that we feel, any vacant place that we feel is an opportunity to fill that place with the greatness of the Creator.
S. It turns out that a person feels a certain emptiness and he immediately needs to adapt it to himself to the work in the ten?
R. Of course, are you only seeing it now, of course all the changes in us are an invitation and an incessant invitation of the Creator to connect between us and then connect to Him.
26. S. (43:06) The way it's felt from within, there's my attitude towards the friends and then there's the attitude of the friends towards me and there's also the relationship or attitudes between the friends. Where is the jurisdiction of my responsibilities in all these three fields or only from me to the friends? What can I truly influence realistically?
R. You must feel yourself as a representative of the Creator in this corporeal world and from that to continue.
S. No, it's not clear.
R. This is not clear? I'm telling you from now on you need to see yourself as a representative of the Creator relative to this entire world, still, vegetative, animative, and speaking, you are the Creator’s representative towards them.
S. About the emptiness as it's written about it here, the emptiness that I see from the friends in my direction for me, I should ask the Creator and it will influence everything?
R. Yes.
S. Something that's always confusing, the correction, changes that need to happen, they need to happen inside of me and later on I will influence them through my actions or is it truly through the prayer to the friends?
R. You won't find the answer. Where are your friends, where is this world, it's all in you. So to the extent that you change yourself and you arrange yourself correctly toward the Creator, the Creator and the world, you begin to feel that it's all in you and only in you.
S. I got it thank you.
27. S. (46:02) This exaltedness of the Creator meaning to go above our intellect to connect directly with that empty vacant place where the Creator is to be revealed. Is this what we're doing with this action?
R. Yes.
28. S. (46:32) What is the meaning that the Creator is looking after His creation?
R. Repeat please.
S. What is the meaning that the Creator is looking after His creation, that He will fill all the emptiness with His presence? How does it happen inside of us?
R. By working in faith above reason, through that we are bringing the Creator into all of the vacant places where He’s absent from them and we wish Him to fill these places with His presence with His faith.
29. S. (47:57) One of the friends wishes to scrutinize, you are saying that if the friend is moving back that is to show him greater connection however if he feels even greater opposition rejection what do we do next?
R. There is nothing to do. We only need to show him that he is becoming opposite to the society he's moving away from the society.
30. S. (49:10) Can you explain what does it mean that the earth hangs on nothing?
R. That there’s no foundation for spirituality except for faith above reason.
31. S. (49:29) The feeling of emptiness is an unpleasant one and our immediate tendencies to look for a replacement in other places. How to have it so that we’ll only look for the filling in connection?
R. I think that the world generally is entirely moving according to how we are learning the system of Adam HaRishon, there's nothing more than the spherical vessel of Adam HaRishon which is filled with the upper light the Creator, and that is the only thing that exists and we need to come to that state, according to our desires according to the vessel and according to the relationships between us, according to the light, so let's try to arrange ourselves this way.
32. S. (50:50) People used to try to fill the emptiness without connection to the Creator and now you're thinking, is there even any point of trying to fill that emptiness because it takes away the necessity of the Creator. If we'll fill all of our emptiness with the greatness of the Creator then there's no fear no problem. If you'll begin to work with the problems then the greatness of the Creator will disappear completely.
R. It will all settle eventually, the important thing is to continue. If I begin to explain it more and more it will only confuse you further. Let's work systematically.
33. S. (52:03) Is faith above reason, does it have an ending because I see that the reason keeps growing. When can I reach complete faith?
R. In the final correction in the final correction.
34. S. (52:55) What does it mean to bring the exaltedness of the Creator into every vacant place? How does it work in a group?
R. The Creator fills all of reality meaning all of the thoughts and desires we have in our mind and heart, where we feel that there is a place to be filled. We feel uncomfortable in that place and these places we need to bring in mind and feeling the presence of the Creator, that's it. How to do it? This is called working in faith above reason, that I, to my vacant emotional and intellectual places I want the Creator to dwell there.
35. S. (54:02) How does it work relative to a group, the ten?
R. For the ten it works in a way that each of the friends longs yearns to be in faith above reason.
36. S. (54:16) Is it an internal action alone to fill everything with the greatness of the Creator or does it require the addition of reading the sources together for example?
R. That too.
37. S. (54:37) What causes emptiness in spirituality and how is it different from a state of descent?
R. The state of spiritual descent and spiritual emptiness it's the same thing.
S. (54:56) And what causes emptiness?
R. What causes emptiness is that I am not concerned about filling this space with faith above reason.
38. S. (55:13) What are the necessary qualities of the unity so that the Creator will enter that unity?
R. A truer as possible prayer.
39. S. (55:36) Can you explain please what is faith within reason?
R. Faith within reason is simple, is that a person believes what his reason pushes and supports him toward, this is called faith within reason.
40. S. (56:05) There's corporeal emptiness and spiritual emptiness is there a difference in the plea to the Creator between the two?
R. Corporeal emptiness is that a person feels that he lacks corporeal filling, food, sex, money, honor, power, knowledge, and spiritual emptiness is that instead of all the he feels the empty forms in him will come the sensation of the Creator and fill those empty spaces.
41. S. (56:55) It says an excerpt number nine that the emptiness has to be filled with exaltedness meaning with the discernment of faith above reason. How do we come to a state where the exaltedness and the quality of bestowal itself are the same?
R. We think about it, think about it as much as possible.
42. S. (57:36) How to rise above reason? Does that mean above the rejections that are opposite to the purpose of creation?
R. No, in spirituality we increase our vessels not by knowledge not by reason but rather by the power of faith above reason. The more I am included in the friends, the more I am drawn to them, bond with them, by that I expand my spiritual vessel and then it is filled with the sensation of the Creator of the upper force and this is called the ascent.
43. S. (58:54) The states of emptiness may change. How should the ten be organized relative to the friends so that all the friends will go through the different states with emptiness in the easiest and fastest way possible?
R. I can't answer that, that depends on the person's effort.
44. S. (59:37) In that case the emptiness is what advances a person in his work. Should a person be looking constantly for the emptiness in him? If he comes to emptiness where does he get the exaltedness of the Creator as a filling?
R. He discovers the emptiness in himself because he lacks faith above reason. He is lacking the force of connection with the ten, he lacks the force of connection with the Creator, he doesn't feel that they are filling him and he fills them. What to do? Only to open the heart so that it’s more more connected with the friends and then he will see how much it works, how much the Creator goes towards him.
S. The Creator gives him the exaltedness of the Creator or he has to find it or come to it, come to His exaltedness in order to fill the emptiness in him?
R. This comes from the Creator, this comes from the Creator. You’re asking about a very nice state, a correct state and I am happy that you are advancing.
45. S. (01:01:31) We got a bit confused. Our thoughts influence our feelings and if we constantly work with our feelings and look for the connection with the friends and what is happening inside of us is love, are the thoughts influencing the feelings the feelings influence the thoughts?
R. It turns out that you want to leave everything besides the connection between us and through the connection between us to feel the connection to the Creator, so our connection is in principle the connection with the Creator because the Creator himself does not exist, it does not exist in Himself separately rather, we make Him as it is said you have made me. In what way? Specifically through the connection between us, by the connection above our ego, above our egoism we begin to assemble to connect our corrected desires, by that we build the Creator, we as if sense Him and we put them together from all the pieces in our feelings and that is how this image of the Creator appears to us.
Reading 10 (01:03:30) “God has made it that he will be feared….”
46. S. (01:06:11) It looks like you come to a state where you have an attitude of a love-hate relationship with the Creator. He always plays with this emotion with you between loving Him and hating Him… how to settle this state?
R. Stabilize this state by adhesion, both the deficiencies and all the good things. They all connect together to a single connection -adhesion. Adhesion absorbs into itself and swallows into itself everything.
47. S. (01:07:01) The feeling of adhesion, you come to the society to attain it. And you attain it and then the Creator takes it from you. On the one hand it is adhesion, on the other hand there is this work here that constantly disappears. I cannot see where to hold faith above reason here because he keeps taking it from me this thing called faith above reason.
R. That is an order for you to advance.
S. How long will these states last?
R. Until the end of correction.
S. I understand what you are saying. I feel it but there is a point here where I feel like a volcano on the inside that is about to erupt.
R. That is always the case with you and it is good. You should only raise yourself above reason each time.
S. How do I share with the friends, this doing so and not to be alone in it?
R. You are not alone, they also do the same work, each one according to their degree.
S. So we have to come to a common prayer here?
R. Yes, common prayer can be without scrutinizing each and every one's personal degree.
S. How do we scrutinize the work above reason in the correct point?
R. Each one inside himself.
48. S. (01:08:50) How do we set ourselves up for the next state of emptiness?
R. With respect to the next emptiness I even search for these states because when I feel them I can fulfill them with greatness of the Creator, with the loftiness of the Creator.
S What do you mean to have to look for the new emptiness?
R. To look for emptiness means that I look for feelings. Feelings are spaces/places that only the recognition of the greatness of the Creator can raise me from that state to the correct state.
S. And where do you find such places?
R. Inside myself.
S. How do you find these places inside yourself?
R. About this I said already in the beginning of the lesson that we need to look for (pause) ..that we need to search for the corporeal states that we have from which we begin and then from them I begin to want to rise to spiritual states.
S. It is not so clear.
R. Alright so let's say like this, I said this many times recently I also do not have the words after yesterday. After yesterday's evening I'm a bit confused. I'll find the words, let's continue and someway and I'll find it. It's hard for me to focus on this right now.
49. S. (01:12:07) Do we need to renew and strengthen our Faith Above Reason everyday?
R. Yes, of course; but, we also need to feel that we have a need, an urgency for it -that I have no choice- if I do not raise Faith Above Reason from day-to-day. So, I do not advance and I do not live basically, okay?
Excerpt 11 (01:16:50) Baal HaSulam, Shamati, Article No. 14, “What Is the Exaltedness of the Creator?”
50. R. Yes, these are really such beautiful words.
Reading 11 (01:19:10) again
51. S. (01:21:30) It is completely unclear. In excerpt 1, it is written that the Creator builds, he gives the greatness of the Creator. In the end it says that the greatness of the Creator is when man asks for it.
R. Well, you probably have to read a few more times what is written here. It could even be this whole article fully. Ask more and we will find an explanation.
52. S. ( 01:22:10) Emptiness is where the reason fails. How can the faith sustain itself on reason without feeling the object of the need?
R. He wants to fill those places with the force of faith, with the force of bestowal, with the force of adhesion with the Creator.
53 S. (01:22:52) I could understand that a person calculates with his mind but how does an emotional motion happen? How does a change in a person's emotions happen in his desire?
R. Both the intellect and the feeling in spirituality work together and add to one another. It is not like in our world, where the intellect or the mind resists the feeling and vice versa; therefore, there is no clash here just to come closer to it and you will see it so.
54. S. (01:23:54) It seems that our reasons in relation to Romemut Hashem, this condition of emptiness that we can fulfill with this wisdom but the problem is that we know the system to overcome our reason. However, it is as if we are in an empty room where we jump in this new condition above reason. How can we use it to an active state?
R. I want to come to the force of bestowal. I want to be the bestower to the Ten. I want to be the bestower to the Ten. I want to not receive an answer with my intellect, but rather before that, to have an attitude towards the force of bestowal and with that force of bestowal I will feel the solution and then I will advance.
55. S. (01:24:13) As much as I understand from this excerpt, that the work is to find a Creator in each and every thing. So the question is: Why do I need to engage in filling the others with the greatness of the Creator?
R. I don't understand. Where do you want to find the Creator if not within the Ten? Do you think these are two things that do not belong to one another? It is not that way. There is no Creator without the created being. You need to establish/stabilize the Ten, with all your heart and soul,as much as you are capable and then with that inclination you will start to feel the presence of the Creator.
S. There is a Creator in a Ten or is it the same thing?
R. The Creator is revealed in the corrected Ten. Well, relatively corrected, according to the degrees of correction. Otherwise, there is no Creator. It is called there is no Creator without the created beings. The created being is the Ten the group.
56. S. (01:27:01) When I work with the external mind there is the fear and shame of not being able to do it. How can we associate these situations with the above reason?
R. I, in faith above reason, come to my inclination towards the Creator. I want to adhere to him. I asked him to fill me and sort me out inside in all my relations with the friends and with all the created beings and certainly with the Creator himself. I want to not be disconnected from all of reality and specifically in my connection with all of reality, I want to find the force that created and fills everything, which is called the Creator that is my goal. Okay?
57. S. (01:28:31) He said something very interesting, he says that only the Creator can give him this force to be able to go above reason and that is called greatness of the Creator.
R. Yes
S. I want to tell you that I do not always come to the morning lesson. I do not always go to the gym. I do not disregard it but it is a result of life… so where will I get this for us to go above reason?
R. You will have to try to rise above reason.
S. But I'm not successful so?
R. Then do it above reason
S. But I'm not succeeding so I'll never get the force to overcome? I'll never get the force to go above the reason their conditions to be in this force?
R. There are conditions, yes.
S. What are the minimum conditions?
R. Ask your wife to wake you up.
S. Well that'll take a long time. Why? She's sleeping, who works all day, works all day and hardly lives by herself.
R. Promise her some kind of gift. What's wrong with that? You have to pay for the Torah?
S. It's a difficult state. I am asking if it's a possibility if it is some kind of duty for someone in the Ten who could help me wake up in the morning.
R. Well that is already nice you see .One of our friends is asking how we could help him wake up in the morning. That 's good. First of all he is thinking about us that we are stronger than him. He understands that he doesn't understand but only to ask at my last meeting that he has something in his head before us that he has really come to a very special state, very beautiful and good state very well we all do for you.
S. How, to like tie that rope around the leg of your friend?
R. Well, that was 40 years ago. What do you want?
S. What can we tie now to our foot?
R. We could do it that way too. Yes but now I have other possibilities. I said we did not have such beads all right well it is something we will do. Who had his phone? Wonderful so try.
S. So if I do not wake up every morning.
R. There's a lot you're detaining everyone because of you everyone cannot reach the end of correction. Tomorrow morning, a friend will call you in the morning and if you don't get up then we will make your life boil up a little bit more. We will heat it up.
S. Thank you
57. S. (01:32:41) There is like a loop here that justified the Creator within reason to ask him to walk above reason for what happened if we want to reach reason in order to justify him so there is a loop that is difficult he has to give me a deficiency. so if I justified him instead by asking Him for a deficiency so where am I in this loop?
R. He brought you to the Ten, he brought you to the teacher, he gave you the books, the whole environment everything you need he created around you a world and all that fills it. He left you only one thing. To give a little from yourself. A tendency for correction. So what are you asking?
S. I'm asking that the correction, the path we are walking for are friends justifying that has to bring us to a state where we feel it within reason?
R. I don't know. I don't expect anything from the Creator. I just want to disclose in me additional forces for advancement and going in faith above reason. Where can I connect to the friends, where we help one another, they are giving examples to one another and that is how we care. Yes? Are you concerned for the group? That way for your group, for each of the group? One is sick today. I see him here on an additional screen that was arranged for me and for all of us since that way he is in his room sick but someone is caring for him to be with us. You don't get it but in the morning it's on caring for you? As I am concerned with you?
S. Yes, of course I'm also concerned about him. We send messages everyday but he forgets.
R. Forget the messages you need to get his wife's phone number, his wife's phone number and call her at 2 AM , and say good morning dear ma'am I am really yearning to talk to your husband but I can't because he didn't wake up and why is he so tired in the middle of the night. What is going on? Is he going out and having fun tonight in the evening? Let's work on him so he will not miss the last year of his life where soon it's about to end. So, lte’s care for the life of the next world. I don't know her very well. She once even sent me a cake, I remember,
S. In our time calling his wife is called sexual harassment.
R. Then it'll be a very interesting trial, yes? What did the history of the wisdom of Kabbalah…
58. S. (01:37:23) How can we understand the notion of emptiness that you mentioned it just emptiness the lack of.How can we understand the notion of emptiness that you mentioned it just emptiness the lack of or is there something more to it?
R. I can't explain this to you…….There's no God within me, that is emptiness.
59. S. (01:38:36) What is more important, necessity or friends?
R. Necessity or our friends Necessities you mean something that food, sex, money, honor and knowledge?
S. Yes.
R. Certainly a person needs to take care of his corporeal life if there is no flour and there is no Torah.
S. If one comes on account of the other?
R. It depends on which you are talking about. I don't know if there is no flour and there is no Torah. Maybe if there is no cake. We need to be certain that we have the necessary things.
R. There were times where Rabash told me that he was in a state that there was no bread in the morning to give every child a slice of bread, to go to school.
S. Let us say if I can give an example. Let's say I'm sick and I don't feel good but I still feel like I can come to the lesson.
R. Then you must. That is like it was with Rabash. I would come from Rehovot in my car. It was 30 km and sometimes there were problems along the way. I come in all wet. The lesson starts also. Instead of 15 people there may be barely 5 and then some other friend comes all walking away because he walked by a foot in the rain. He asked him, well what is up with you and he says what can I do it is raining outside, Meaning he has no choice, he has to come the lesson even though it is raining outside. He says to him go call someone to that guy to call him at home and ask him why he didn't come. I called him and I asked what was going on, why are you coming? Rabash says, you see how will I go out and look at the flood that is going on out there so he says to everyone you see this one says its raining outside. How could I not come to the lesson? Meaning the excuse is not an excuse. Each of us has his own excuses.
S. We will pray for him
R. Ok pray. I believe in actions that are more physical.
60. S. (01:42:29) What should we do with heavy souls that from the evening they start criticizing their friends and in the morning they don't have the forces to wake up so how can you affect them?
R. Work on them, work on them delicately in a manner that we try to explain to them the extent to which they are distant from the center of creation. How distant they are from correction and that it is too bad that they do not know this or feel this is and we certainly understand this but inevitably I have no choice but we have to wait until they will understand and I know that they have to correct themselves. Besides that, understanding the extent to which the soul is greater, it is truly more difficult to correct, it's more difficult to correct and it has great problems. It doesn't have such a sharp mind or sensitivity in the world to receive rather hard, very hard
61. S. (01:44:17) If I feel the anger towards the Creator, how can I demand faith above reason?
R. I don't know, I saw in a sports place where there's this kind of image, like a person and you start boxing against it. Maybe he's like a big puppet that you can box against, maybe you can take all your anger against it, and you remain with the right perception of it. Look at ways that you can come to the correct contact with the Creator, even though I'll tell you after everything, it will necessitate a long time, it will demand from you a lot of time. You’ll have to, nevertheless, you'll have to roll and spin and more and more and getting into this and that and fall in all kind of problems that will wear you out a little bit and then you’ll start, after many years, you will feel that this is actually changing both the attitude from the side of the Creator but actually it's because you are changing.
62. S. (01:46:09) If a person in the ten, he has an idea to do in the ten but the ten thinks otherwise but if this person annulled before the ten, will he be filled with the greatness of the Creator?
R. No, first of all, and then we'll see what the results will be. Let him annul before the ten, just how Rabash writes in his articles about man before society, it's best for us to be in zeros before the ones, come up a zero before one.
63. S. (01:47:19) You relate in a very strict way, you said whoever doesn't come to the lesson is not a friend and after that you said we have to give an example for a connection that they will feel it then whoever doesn’t come he harms and so on. So, I've been trying to scrutinize this with the friends for a lot of years, and friends have told me that friends who do not come to the lesson they are friends and we should be in faith above reason towards them, so the friends say above reason but you said is not a friend, so how should I relate to this? it seems that the friends are mistaken that they are going below reason but it's the whole ten saying this, so I have to annul before this and I see it just brings damage, such an attitude, if we don't work in the connection and treat each other softly, so it doesn't work. So, one friend doesn't come to the lesson, so then I won't come to the lesson?
R. I understand you but tell me what to do?. Not to pay attention to them? Not to relate to them? Then instead of ten friends you’ll have 2 or 3 and you won't be able to do anything and you won't be able to advance because we need to have this thing called critical mass, critical mass in the group that's the first thing. Secondly, we are not allowed to give a negative example to the friend, I need to understand that I'm responsible for the group and if I don't come then the group is weakened and the friends also feel that they don't have to wake up like me.
So, what can we do? Tell me. How is it possible to remain in bed to sleep, even to sleep, if there's a lesson, if during this time the friends of the world are discussing, talking how can we come closer to the Creator? It's not that I don't understand this I understand and I also more than once wanted to remain in bed but I didn't allow myself to do that, I didn't allow myself to do that ever ever. There were times where I was sick in operations, and surgery and hospitals etc, but at home not to wake up from the bed for the lesson? I pray in the evening before I sleep. I pray to the Creator to give me the strength to wake up on time for the lesson, well it also depends on when you go to sleep, it depends when. If I don't feel well, I go to sleep at 5 p.m. 6 p.m. and then I sleep properly and I wake up normally.
64. S. (01:51:41) To need the Creator, is that the need to correct your qualities? How can we learn to need the Creator when you discover your flaws?
R. If I depict myself in the connection with the Creator that thinks to the friend that I can also I attain this connection with a friend then I relate to this friend differently that he becomes close to me. He becomes a support, leaning point to me, something I can lean on, like my North Star, my satellite that guides me on the path. Alone I will not be able to attain the Creator. Each of us will not succeed in this. Therefore, the Creator sends them to us so you can bring each and every one of us to Him. That's why I need to see in any of my friends as someone that was sent to me by the Creator in order to bring me to the Creator, to that extent I need to love and respect the friends.
65. S. (01:53:47) In excerpt eleven (11) is written that the exaltedness of the Creator means that he needs to ask for the Creator to give him the strength to go above reason. Do we need to expect that the Romemut exaltedness of the Creator will grow or change in Lishma or from Lo Lishma.
R. Yes, we constantly change more and more. We also start to receive such different colors and styles about the greatness of the Creator that you cannot even describe. It is going to be the most precious thing in the world that we can’t even imagine what it can be. I talked about it once and one of students said a Lamborghini that for him is something that is beautiful and the most important, so that's how we need to see the friend that is what the Creator sends to me as an angel that needs to help me come out of this world into the upper world, into the spiritual world.
66. S. (01:55:26) In the Romemut, the exaltedness of the Creator there are two meanings, one that you have to ask for His help, and second, that He gives. Is the meaning here that emphasizes to us that the Romemut of the Creator is in all sizes, and in all the ways?
R. His greatness of the Creator depends on the person, on his vessels, as much as he can depict to himself to increase the Creator in his eyes, in that way he receives the greatness of the Creator and according to that he can ascend on the ladder.