Morning Lesson June 8, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio.

Part 2:

Baal HaSulam. Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah. #78

Reading #79 (00:40) “Now we shall explain the ten Sefirot of Gadlut of Nekudim…” twice

1. S. (03:26) What is raising MAN?

R. He writes it for you. It is an ascent of records from one place to another place.

S. Why do the Reshimot from the second restriction come to the Rosh of SAG?

R. Because there is their source.

Reading #80 (04:02) “Know that the origin of raising MAN is from ZA and Bina of the ten Sefirot of direct light..”

2. S. (07:21) The raising of MAN is only from ZA to Bina. It doesn’t happen between any other Sefirot?

R. So let me ask you: what is raising MAN?

S. What he explained here that ZA has a deficiency that it raises to Bina, causes Bina to turn to Hochma to receive an ascent and to give it ZA that needed the strength. So what I'm saying is that the raising of MAN is only between Bina and Hochma or any place in the system?

R. What does it mean, raising MAN, that can be between the ZA and Hochma or everywhere else?

S. So let's say Malchut needs strength, so it asks of ZA, is that called raising MAN?

R. Yes.

S. It's not according to what it says here, this is why I am asking.

R. Okay.

3. R. (08:31) In short, raising MAN, we have Keter, Hochma and Bina, which have in them all the lights and basically all the vessels, they are GAR, the first three. And then there is Malchut which are ZAT, the bottom seven. They lack the forces and the vessels. So the right order, meaning building the deficiency, the right deficiency to receive the upper light in these vessels, ZA and Malchut with respect to the upper ones is called raising MAN, when they ask for additional vessels, additional strength and screens etc.; everything they need.

4. S. (09:30) In the ten Sefirot of direct light what is Malchut asking of Bina?

R. In the ten Sefirot of direct light we don’t have any request from the lower one to the upper one. There is bestowal from the upper one to the lower one.

S. NHY of Galgalta, what do they ask of the Rosh of SAG, the records of NHY of Galgalta, what do they ask for?

R. NHY of Galgalta are asking for filling, as everywhere else, each Partzuf and each part of the Partzuf is concerned with the filling.

S. What filling do they need?

R. According to what it has, according to the deficiencies, the records it has.

S. So I'm asking: What deficiencies do they have?

R. ZON wants to fill itself according to its deficiencies, according to the records in it.

S. There is a certain feeling in it, in NHY Galgalta?

R. There is light of Hassidim there.

S. Is it deficient in anything else?

R. Of course, at the end of correction it will receive the light of Hochma from top to bottom.

S. So what is he asking of now that it’s called raising MAN?

R. No, now it's in a Partzuf called SAG and then it raises Reshimot [records] that it wants the light of Hochma and it raises it from below Tabur to above Tabur.

S. Who wants the light of Hochma?

R. SAG and its vessels which are below Tabur.

S. Why would SAG want the light of Hochma, it is the Partzuf of Bina?

R. It doesn't matter. It has a part, that’s the whole thing, it has a part that wants the light of Hochma as well.

S. For whom?

R. For ZA and Malchut.

S. So that is what I'm asking: What does ZA and Malchut ask for through the records of SAG?

R. They want the light of Hochma in order to fill and satisfy their deficiency, their vessels; ZA and Malchut want the light of Hochma.

S. They asked to have the strength of the Masach to be able to receive in order to bestow the light of Hochma or just the light of Hochma?

R. No, just simply light of Hochma, are Reshimot [records] that ask, but after there are scrutinies: what do we need in order to receive the light of Hochma and then the records rise, ascend.

S. So everything you just mentioned, this is included in what is mentioned in raising MAN?

R. Yes, all those operations, we will soon learn it. Let's read a little bit of what he says. I cannot be instead of Baal HaSulam, that’s clear to you. So, again please, item 80.

Reading #80 again (12:50) “Know that the origin of raising MAN is..”

5. S. (16:02) How can Bina ask for Hochma?

R. Bina asks for the light of Hochma if she asks for it, she does not have her own deficiency for it, but if a lower one rises to it and asks like a child from a mother, then she turns to the father Hochma, and asks of him for the light of Hochma for ZON.

S. She's as if opposite?

R. Of course she's opposite, she does not need it for herself.

S. So how is there a transition between the father and the son if the mother is completely opposite?

R. Through the mother, the mother doesn’t need it for herself, this is why what ZA needs she can turn to the father who has it and receive it for ZA, this is the role, the duty of the mother.

S. How can she transition and how can she transfer it?

R. Because she receives the deficiency from ZA and he's in, it is in it, his deficiency, and then she turns to Hochma, receives from Hochma, the light of Hochma within the deficiency she received from ZA, right, and passes it on to him. In other words for this ZA has to be incorporated within Bina. It is very similar to the impregnation and the suckling and the birth, it’s just like in nature.

6. S. (17:57) And then ZA feels that he receives Hochma through Bina or does he feel directly the Hochma?

R. No, what does it mean to receive? To receive means that it connects to Bina, it has to come to equivalence of form with her, it has to receive from her, meaning to have its own vessels and to have the vessels of Bina so that it can connect with her and then it receives from her what he needs.

S. He clothes on Bina, ZA?

R. He rises to Bina and becomes incorporated in her, let's say like during an impregnation.

S. In what vessels does he receive from Bina? Does he need vessels from Hochma? What vessels does he need to receive?

R. It has vessels from Hochma because it receives from Malchut and it receives the vessels of bestowal from Bina during the suckling when it annuls before the upper one it receives from the upper one the vessels during the Ibur, [impregnation] and the Yenika, [suckling] and then it can receive from Bina.

S. What is this depiction, what are the vessels of bestowal that he needs to receive from Bina in order to be able to receive from Hochma?

R. In order to keep within it the light of Hochma so that it does not become cancelled, so it has to have vessels of bestowal.

S. He uses the vessels of bestowal of Bina?

R. Yes.

S. So it turns out that both are going to receive Hochma, they're turning into a single unit?

R. Yes, this is called the mother being impregnated by ZA and receiving for it.

7. S. (20:00) He also mentioned here that Bina turns to the Nukvim of Hochma, this is also due to the raising of ZA, how does Bina turn into being Nukva?

R. Because Malchut rises to ZA with her will to receive in order to receive, ZA ascends to Bina with this will to receive in order to receive on it the upper light that will correct it and fill it. And then Bina ascends to Hochma and Hochma, which has light of Hochma, fills Bina with what she asks for ZA.

S. Meaning the moment it rises it becomes to equivalence of form?

R. With Hochma.

S. Yes, with Hochma

R. Right, it makes her a female: Nukva for Hochma.

8. S. (21:03) Why does he say that everything rises from ZA and then doesn’t call it ZON? Why did he disconnect Malchut from the story?

R. Because it's obvious, that is how it happens, everything happens with Malchut.

S. Because she reveals the deficiency in essence?

R. Yes, but Malchut herself doesn’t influence Bina but only through ZA.

S. Can you say that ZA is the active one, that he fills Malchut but the actions come from him ?

R. Yes.

9. S. (21:44) What does it mean the Aliya?

R. The ascent of ZA to Bina brings Bina with her face to Hochma so that she can receive light from Hochma.

S. What are the deficiencies of ZA, that they cannot connect Bina and Hochma?

R. No.

S. So what state are they in?

R. Back-to-back.

S. Which means?

R. Or face-to-back, meaning there's no passage of light between them. There are many such laws in nature, in transistors, everywhere.

10. S. (22:41) What activates ZA if Bina only wants to bestow and Malchut only wants to receive, meaning what causes the motion?

R. The deficiency that Malchut constantly feels, so if Malchut now feels that she can raise her deficiency to above, raise it up, she does it and Malchut’s deficiency rises to ZA, ZA raises itself to Bina, Bina to Hochma etc., and so on through Ein Sof.

S. But if Malchut is only to receive for itself what deficiency does it raise?

R. If the deficiency is only for herself, then there is nothing; there are no ascents.

S. This is what we are saying usually, that Malchut is the desire to receive?

R. No, we are now talking about the operations on vessels that are in the process of correction.

S. In the beginning of this item 79, he mentions the refinement of the Masach, what is the connection between the refinement of the Masach and the raising of MAN?

R. You can ask this about everything, what is the difference. The refinement of the screen is that the screen that was in order to receive that was inside the Partzuf through the clash in it with the surrounding light, it begins to become refined. Meaning it feels that it has not reached the purpose of creation at this moment and that it still has more to do.

That it's situation is not the corrected state and therefore, if it's not right, it returns everything and returns and this what happens with the screen that stands at the Tabur. It begins to rise back to its source which is the Peh de Rosh. In the Peh de Rosh it is incorporated in a new coupling which is there, and receives from there a new desire, a new coarseness and the power of a new Masach; it now descends into a new degree. This is called spreading in a new coupling to the next Partzuf, let's say AB from Galgalta.

S. So in the raising of MAN what causes her to rise, meaning there is no pressure of the Bitush?

R. Wait a minute, in raising of MAN, I don't quite understand what you are asking.

S. If in the refinement of the Masach, what causes her to rise is the Bitush, is the blow?

R. Yes.

S. What in the raising of MAN causes it to ascend, to raise the MAN?

R. What causes the raising of MAN is the general deficiency in the Guf of the Partzuf which wants to pull itself up to the light. That is what it wants, this is what raises MAN and asks for the strength to have it in order to bestow.

11. S. (26:44) How does the process of shining Hochma lights to the vessels of AHP happen?

R. Again I did not understand. Are we talking about the Nekudot of SAG, what are we talking about?

S. A general question: the bestowing between two vessels, I cannot bestow more than the friends of the Galgalta Eynaim, but to bestow to the vessels of Galgalta Eynaim of the friends, I need to receive Ohr Hochma of my AHP, so how does this process happen?

R. By raising of MAN. Let’s say I am the connector between the friend and the upper Partzuf, in order to receive from there the light of Hochma and pass it on to the friend. This is what you are asking? Well, this is exactly what happens here, this is what we are learning. So the lower one raises MAN, a deficiency to the upper one, that it wants to receive a little bit of the light of Hochma. Why, what for, it is all in the mind and the upper one fixes it for him.

S. Does the Ohr Hochma turn to Hassidim?

R. There's no such thing, light of Hochma becoming light of Hassidim.

S. Can you bestow Hochma?

R. I'm not sure what he's asking about between AB and Galgalta, SAG and AB, or here between friends, bestowing upon friends, about where, what place is he asking about?

S. Blood turns to milk?

R. Yes.

S. So in this process how does Ohr Hochma that I attract by raising to my AHP be transferred to friends by Hassidim?

R. I don't know quite what he's asking about, about what place, about what state, the light Hochma is the light of Hochma. The light of Hassidim is the light of Hassidim. We cannot take something from the light of Hochma so it becomes the light of Hassidim. We can make a coupling on the light of Hochma with a certain screen and then from the light of Hochma what’s left is only light of Hassidim. This we can do; this is called blood becoming milk.

12. S. (30:33) What does he call the new concept of raising MAN? What renews here in the system?

R. The deficiency, raising of MAN is the deficiency, simple. When I don't have the strength to receive something, I first of all ask to have the strength and then I ask for the ability to receive that something.

S. In our previous requests from the Nikudim of Gadlut it wasn't a deficiency of the lower to the upper? All previous requests from Nikudim of Gadlut, of raising MAN, it wasn't a deficiency from the lower to the upper?

R. Nowhere did we read, the raising of the deficiency from the lower one to the upper one in order to receive the strength, the light, meaning, so that on it, to later ask for the reception of light in order to bestow; this is called raising MAN.

S. So how does it happen that the system reacts to such a request after the second restriction, that it is forbidden to ask in order to receive?

R. Depends for what. No, from the beginning of creation to the end of creation we are in constant requests. If I ask for the strength to be able to bestow moreover receive.

S. So what differs from what NHY of Galgalta asks in Nikudim and Gadlut to the second restriction?

R. Because they wanted to receive in order to bestow in a place that it was forbidden to receive.

S. And now they are in ZON in the same place below the Parsa they're not allowed to receive in there and are asking in order to bestow. Why does the second restriction kick into place?

R. Now, let's see. First, Nekudot of SAG wanted to receive in order to bestow. They saw that by this they were crossing the Parsa and the light that they were drawing goes under the Parsa into a zone where there is Phase four. Phase four dominates and therefore, they lacked the force to stop the light there and this is why there was a breaking there and all those scrutinies. Now, to the extent that we can reassemble the shattering, the pieces, or perform such operations that there will not be a breaking, we are permitted to receive in order to bestow.

S. This is what the second restriction does?

R. No, the second restriction doesn't forbid us to receive in order to bestow, receiving in order to bestow is the whole purpose of creation. The second restriction only tells us where there is only will to receive, there it is forbidden to receive, this is the first restriction. The second restriction says that in order to bestow, you cannot receive for now. Correct the second restriction and then return to the first restriction.

S. What does ZON ask that allows it to request a request that is correct?

R. We only started learning what is happening there in ZON, it's not the real ZON.

S. So what are they asking for, the light of Hochma?

R. In the light of Hochma, they are asking to receive it in order to bestow in the light of Hassidim to have the light of Hochma.

S. What did NHY of Galgalta want?

R. They wanted to receive the entire complete light there; they wanted to receive the light of Hochma and here the light of Hassidim in the shining, in the illumination of Hochma.

S. How did this correction happen for them?

R. Through them being able to twist their vessels or turn their vessels in such a way that they can now receive in order to bestow. Such a minimal illumination of the light of Hassidim, so they can receive it in order to bestow and in small portions over a long period of time they will receive the light of Ein Sof in order to bestow.

13. S. (35:55) When we say that Malchut raises to ZA and ZA to Bina, is this impressions like a language of messages or is it real incorporation and adhesion in one another?

R. Yes, certainly check and come closer and measure how much they resemble one another and can work together and then, and then only do they connect and come into an action together.

S. So it's real adhesion with equivalence and everything?

R. Yes, yes, everything is really precise.

S. Sometimes it sounds like if a child is crying the mother brings it baby food, but if there’s a child that cries it changes everything in the mother, in her entire world, they are connected to each other.

R. In spirituality, Ima has enough vessels, enough tools to know what he needs exactly and I just grab something from the closet. She knows exactly what he needs for a correction, this way he grows spiritually.

S. The answer really becomes like vessels that are entwined?

R. Yes, yes, combination and twining of the vessels between.

S. Because I'm asking about the powers of the thing because passing from one to another it's fine?

R. No, no, no, it's measured precisely according to the deficiency of the mother and the deficiency of the child and the deficiency of the father who has all the light of Hochma and the three of them are aimed to fill the child.

S. I don't know if it's correct, but when a certain disciple reaches spirituality he also has that same ability.

R. Certainly, without a doubt.

S. And he will have the ability to see whatever they need? Whatever they need for advancement you'll feel it?

R. Yes, this is called the opening of the eyes. How can you work with the spiritual system if you're not familiar with the deficiencies and how to provide to them what they need, what they want.

S. But to pass on to them what they need, feeling it is not enough we're also talking about experience?

R. Everything is included inside.

S. You'll be able to convey all those things?

R. Mainly the experience. What do you mean to scream, to cry, to demand, everyone can maybe, but to ask and demand for what is needed and in the correct measure through which he will receive the correction and the filling, for that a lot of silence is required, to study, to try.

14. S. (39:22) So for this we need also to understand the person's deficiency, understand the Creator, how He has to fill it, and how they connect together?

R. Yes.

S. Meaning a person has to be incorporated?

R. He has to be included from the Upper and lower.

S. Yes, but that word included, incorporated isn’t just an incorporation, I have to feel how they might connect together and build the connection between two opposite sides, so basically the connection between the Upper one and lower one or two opposites. So, let's say, one who prays for his friend should he be that conduit somehow, so how does he, I mean that's basically our role to find a way to connect between the Upper one and the lower one.

R. Yes, they connect within the person; this is his essence. To be this transition one-sided transition.

15. S. (40:39) What causes the records of ZON of Guf of AK to rise, to awaken, to raise MAN?

R. Because they have the deficiencies that after all they want to correct them in order to bestow and receive in them the whole light of Ein Sof.

S. Why specifically after the emergence of Katnut of Nekudim to suddenly awaken?

R. Because now they have a connection.

S. It's written here in this item that we read that MAN is something that awakens the lower ones not in the order of degree, as an addition, so is it something new here? What's happening here suddenly it raises MAN?

R. Yes, yes, if not MAN then everything would remain as it is frozen because there's a deficiency on behalf of the lower one, there's awakening also on behalf of the Upper one and then the entire process continues. Imagine yourself what would happen without children. Humanity would grow old and would die.

S. So here it's the first time that there's an independent deficiency?

R. Yes, yes.

16. S. (42:10) The MAN that Malchut raises is it in order to receive? Is the MAN that Malchut raises in order to receive?

R. No it cannot be. Raises, she raises her MAN, her deficiency. Meaning it cannot be in order to receive only in order to bestow.

S. In the end Bina turns face-to-face with Hochma. Is it correct systematically to see it as raising of MAN happening so this operation would happen so Bina would be face-to-face with Hochma?

R. Yes, for there to be a transition between the light of Hochma from Hochma to Bina.

17. S. (43:21) I thought the Upper degree is always in a state of giving to the lower one. Is this correct or not?

R. Yes.

S. So it says here that it is regarded as always being back-to-back with Hochma. I can understand if it is face-to-back that Hochma wants to give, but Bina doesn't want to receive, so why does he write that it's not face to back but back-to-back?

R. There are such cases as well.

S. So what makes Hochma want to give?

R. There's four stages between Upper and the lower, face-to-face, face-to-back, back-to-face, and back-to-back.

S. Can Hochma be in a state where she doesn't want to give to Bina, regardless of what Bina wants?

R. It's possible.

S. What does it depend on?

R. The system has to be arranged properly depending on the Ein Sof from Hochma and the lower from Bina in order to continue the light of Hochma from the Upper, from Ein Sof, to the lower Malchut.

S. In #79 he writes that a Zivug de Hakaa, a coupling by striking there, reaches the level of the ten Sefirot for the purpose of the lower ones. Can there be a coupling by striking that elicits the ten Sefirot for the purpose of the Upper one or is it only for the purpose of the lower one?

R. The ten Sefirot for the sake of the lower one, but it can be for the sake of the Upper one, or to the side, I don’t know. There are many actions in the ten Sefirot for all sorts of needs.

S. What happens in the Zivug itself when it's a Zivug on Reshimot? We know there's the ascent of Reshimot, [records] as a result of the new Zivug, coupling to the new level, but in the Zivug, coupling itself what happens to the Reshimot?

R. In the Reshimot, [records] themselves there's entering within the Partzuf that make Zivug, [coupling] within the Upper, there's the level of bestowal.

S. And what happens with the Reshimot, record of the Hitlabshut, clothing and the Reshimot,  record of Aviut,[ coarseness] near the Zivug, [coupling]?

R. They work together so the light enters the Kelim.

S. Do the records of Hitlabshut, clothing and Aviut, [coarseness] have to connect together in order to draw the light?

R. Yes.

18. S. (46:23) Bina passes the light of Hochma, right?

R. This is how it should be.

S. What is light of Hochma?

R. The light of Hochma is the purpose of creation.

S. Does the ZA know it wants to receive the light of Hochma?

R. Yes.

S. How?

R. Just like a dog knows that he wants a piece of meat, it's in his nature. That he was born through the light of Hochma that he received from Bina. This is why he wants Bina and Hochma.

S. In other words it exists in it and inherently in the Reshimot?

R. Yes.

19. S. (47:30) We learned that the Nekudot of SAG first of all raises the Masach, [screen] because it becomes refined because it doesn't want to receive. On the contrary, we see a different process here, the MAN rises in order to receive the light, from where in creation, in the created being does desire to receive something for itself something suddenly arise?

R. The will to receive for itself, why suddenly it is expressed in the world of Nekudim and instead of the desire to bestow, meaning a desire with a screen. So the screen was refined and left only a desire without a screen and the desire that is left without a screen acts within Malchut, and she wants to receive in order to receive. This is the Malchut that first needs to be corrected and then filled and that is going to be the final correction.

S. But we always learn that like a request for correction, from where is the realization for the necessity for correction because there was no breaking, our world does not exist yet, so where does the MAN suddenly come from?

R. We study that there is the rising of the vessels for correction even before the breakage of the vessels, because they have a deficiency to receive in order to bestow, so they ascend to ask for a Masach, a screen, like in the refinement of the screen even in the first screen of Galgalta. The screen begins to get refined and ascend upwards, and when he adheres to the Upper, he asks for only one thing, help me calm down and receive in order to bestow something that is owed to me. Then he descends back, not to the Peh but to the Hozer and there he receives in order to bestow and this is how the Partzuf AB is born from Partzuf Galgalta.

S. So this raising of the Masach, the screen, you just talked about is it also a type of…?

R. Yes, that too you can say that it is before MAN, it comes later, it comes there before the breakage of the Kelim, the vessels.

S. He describes here very differently how Bina becomes Nukva. What does it mean that Bina becomes Nukva? It's as if she receives not in her vessels her Nukva is ZA, what does it mean that she becomes Nukva, female?

R. Malchut that rises to Bina turns Bina from Nukva to Hochma. Bina wants to receive from Hochma and pass the light to ZA. Ima, the mother was just a girl. Now she is a mother who has a baby and she wants to rise to Aba, the father, to receive from him nourishment, food, let's say, to lower it to the baby. This is how it is in our roots.

S. It's just that we always learnt that MAN is raising of Malchut to Bina, Malchut being the Nukva that raises to Bina and here we learn the opposite, that the Nukva is actually Bina?

R. The Bina is the Nukva to the light of Hochma in order to fill ZON, she turns Bina into Nukva, otherwise Bina is not Nukva, she has everything and she's not in the deficiency herself but when she has a deficiency rises to Malchut to Bina from below she because becomes a Nukva to Hochma. And not she herself but what the lower ones give her, then she lowers it, this is the center of Kabbalah, the center of the universe is arranged in that way. Bina is in the center who doesn't want anything for herself turns into the transition of the light of Hochma from above downwards, which is why all of the wisdom of Kabbalah, which is what we are doing what we need, is how not to receive other than bestowing and to that degree we become Kabbalists; receivers.

S. I can raise MAN only if I can raise the desire of the friends?

R. Yes, if I gather, if I collect the deficiency from my entire ten or my group, the world, then this deficiency I can raise upwards and receive on it everything they want.

S. And in that case I become the Nukva of Bina?

R. Yes, which is why Bina is such an important Sefira, such an important force, that she's in the middle, isolates from the vessels of reception of Malchut and ZA, and Bina creates the isolation, exactly like in a semiconductor. That everything is arranged, the connection through Bina and Bina is precisely the mother, that on one hand, wants nothing for herself and on the other hand wants everything in order to fill the lower.

20. S. (55:33) Can we receive more strength to demand from wanting Aba and Ima to be connected between them, can the lower ones ask?

R. What is your benefit for Aba and Ima to be connected? You raise your deficiency from Malchut. It's to receive more of the light of Hochma in order to correct itself, then feel itself in all of its souls, then it'll happen?

S. I'm trying to ask: do we have access to a greater deficiency because we know that Aba and Ima are not connected?

R. We don't have a certain Mitzva to connect Aba ve Ima, we connect them to the degree that we want to receive from them because it's impossible that the light of Hochma expands downwards by itself but when Bina clothes in Malchut, then the two forces expand and fill the lower.

S. So in order to accumulate a greater deficiency, we don't have a need for it?

R. Just the deficiency, where you are going to keep it.

S. That's not my question. I'm trying to ask how to increase, how to raise a big deficiency, how to..?

R. Only to connect to the source of the deficiency, which is the creatures and as much as you connect to them, you are able to raise their deficiency upwards.

21. S. (57:38) I just heard now that Bina is the key to all of the development because she doesn't want anything for herself?

R. Yes.

S. So everything can pass through her?

R. Yes.

S. The following objects because of whom she passes the light they are no longer Bina, so how does the light pass?

R. The light doesn’t pass, it raises the deficiency of the Ima to herself, it impregnates from the deficiency of the desire of the lower, the lower go through the months of impregnation of pregnancy, they grow as the mother, as the Ima provides to them screens and grow within the mother, with the vessels and the screens, and the lights. The Ima is depicting them, receiving the form of humans and then she gives birth to them gradually, either on the seventh or the ninth month or even longer.

S. So she creates them so that they will have Bina, too, so they will be like her, so what, that they will be like Bina?

R. Yes, yes, because God forbid they're like females.

S. The initial deficiency that makes Bina absorb the lower ones to begin to form them as you describe now, what is the initial deficiency?

R. Of the Bina?

S. No, of the lower ones that Bina opens to them and begins to nurture them as you explained?

R. That they want to resemble Ima, to receive in order to bestow. Otherwise, again it happens under the influence of the force of Bina, not that they themselves are like that, otherwise they would be on a higher degree. Rather, they want to annul before Ima, the mother, they have such a strength of annulment and thus, they grow out of anything they receive from her, so all of the reception is as bestowal but bestowal in the vessels of Bina; the lower entirely is in the womb of the upper.

22. S. (01:00:48) Now that we're talking about Gadlut [adulthood] which is an addition?

R. Gadlut of ZA.

S. Yes, so it's now the lower one that is now rising up?

R. No, it's still not born we're talking about ZA who is still included in Bina, but before.

S. When ZON raise MAN, it's the MAN of the lower ones that rises to the upper one?

R. When ZON rises, they themselves are not capable of.

S. The result is that we now have raising of MAN from ZON, isn't this a kind of an association that the fact that there is..?

R. It's a cooperation but a cooperation that Bina makes, not the lower one, the lower one is not ready yet, it's not existing, it's just a drop of semen.

23. S. (01:02:06) Concerning the lower one that doesn't exist in which Bina does everything including plant the deficiencies in it it's as if she's cooking the whole thing here. In the first article we read it said that a person feels that he is so material, such a beast, that he has nothing, so even there can she begin to nurture that Bina in him? Even in that loneliness that materialism where a person is like a beast as he writes?

R. Quite so.

S. She goes down all the way into that depth?

R. To the depths of Malchut and can take him from there and develop him.

S. What is the condition for her to act upon us that way?

R. Records on everything. The essence is being managed by records.

S. I didn't understand. What is the condition for her to operate on us this way and pull us out of beastliness?

R. Time will come and it will work on you

S. What does it mean that the time will come?

R. Your turn will come based on the order of Reshimot from the light.

S. Can't we make it faster?

R. I'm not responsible for that. No it's a matter of nature, the records, it's not clear how it's done? You see children when time comes they have such desire and abilities and such conditions that they need to for themselves and demand it and we need to demand of them and so on. Everything acts according to an order.

24. S. (01:04:26) Why in all of our prayers we’re asking from the father and not from the mother because now we're learning that we have to ask from Bina?

R. It's a correct question. There's something else because we ask of the father because the father Aba rules over Ima, Ima without Aba cannot act. This we will study but this is connected to the order of the family. Now what is between Ima, the mother and the baby, for example.

25. S. (01:05:06) The lower one is required to raise MAN.

R. How does the lower raise MAN if it is not born or awakened to him? Just like now you don't know what will happen in the afternoon, what will come up in the afternoon and what you will want and what you will ask for. The lower only acts based on what is awakened in him.

S. Which forces the lower one to raise MAN.

R. Desire to bestow to the upper one? In general if we're in society and the society awakens in us through all sorts of external bestowals a desire to be bestow to the Creator, we are already beginning to search how do we realize it, how do we arrive at it.

S. Isn't that like a rape? The upper one wants to give joy forcefully.

R. You can say that it is coercion, but we are receiving it and we feel it and that's it. What is coercion? Of course everything is coercion but the desires that we feel that are awakened in us are also coercion. I didn’t want to sleep but now I want to sleep. That’s coercion.

S. Also in the connection between the friends, it's felt that Creator is subconsciously connecting you, you don't understand how you get connected but you suddenly get connected with friend’s deficiency and suddenly feel a joy, but how do you get connected, what happened, why, but just Creator connects you?

R. Yes, so what's the question?

S. It's like you're making actions of bestowal but blindly?

R. That he's hidden from us. This process is concealed from us because we're not aware of the Reshimot and our roots but if we would know more I would see these roots a long time ago that exist in Turkey or Mexico or in another place, records that are closed to me, and then I would be drawn to them, attracted to them, but a time will come and we are keeping these connections.

S. You can easily get connected internally but there are friends whose will to receive is like armor, there's a Klipot like armour you cannot get through. Sometimes I think that maybe in the ten, it's beneficial to connect through one friend and when I enter to one friend then it's easier. Can we say we can do these technical actions?

R. There's a lot of psychology here but soon when we learn more from the wisdom of Kabbalah we will talk about it.

26. S. (01:08:56) A friend asked how can we accelerate time and you told him it's not up to me. On whom does it depend?

R. On others, on the group.

S. On all of us?

R. On all of us.

S. It is written that Israel accelerates time so what should we do?

R. Try to get closer to each other and perform the end of correction, that's it, for this you don't need to learn, you just need to want to be close to each other.

S. We do a lot of things and prayers during the day in meetings we're asking demanding the friends are truly making great efforts.

R. Friends, everything is open before you. Everything is before you, all the writings, all the things, the book of Shamati, what else do you want?

S. Is there something that you see that we can add?

R. Only to deepen in what he left us, he didn't have anything else. I have the book of Shamati. He went to sleep with it and got up and all the time would flip the pages and would find in it new things constantly, renewals, this is how Rabash was. Only to connect between us and to search between us these discernments that will help us build greater vessels of bestowal. Otherwise the time passes and we are left as they say, what to do with children who grow old. They remain children but they grow old, so let us try to advance.

27. S. (01:11:58) What is special about the contact between the light and the vessel and a coupling by striking?

R. What is special? That they begin to measure how they can be in connection between them because they are opposite and in the coupling by striking they check where, and in what fashion, under what conditions, they can be truly connected.

S. How does the love of the text bring to the love of the writer the end from there to the one who dictates?

R. With the Creator's help.

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